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[Dwlee99]

(assuming you're town)

[MathBlade]

i feel incredibly bad for that hammer but like i lowkey didnt know it was a hammer, i thought i would be able to wake up and explain it later.
i should 100% be punished if the numbers call for it

(WAIT GUYS LOWKEY WHATS THE RULES ON SELFVOTING- AM I ALLOWED TO DO IT HERE OR IS THAT AGAINST THE RULES)

The rules for self voting are that you must be able to help your wincon by doing so.
If you’re scum (as I think) then you’d explain why in the scum PT
If you’re town then a friendly PM to the moderator of “I am self voting and I think it is protown because….(I can’t think of a good reason here)”

As long as you aren’t in your opinion throwing then you’re golden. You always have to play to win con.

I don’t see a protown reason to self vote and this really seems like a scum claim

[MathBlade]

I wouldn't kill Titus there.

Interesting. Who would you kill?

[geraintm]

Why is Titus' go to insult this game to call people children?

Informed of an innocent child?

Also this is funny

I thought I dropped enough hints with my posts that if I ever was forced to claim I could point to stuff.

But (I believe it was you) read this post and just assumed I was joking....

[Dwlee99]

I wouldn't kill Titus there.

Interesting. Who would you kill?

Manatee

Why is Titus' go to insult this game to call people children?

Informed of an innocent child?

Also this is funny

I thought I dropped enough hints with my posts that if I ever was forced to claim I could point to stuff.

But (I believe it was you) read this post and just assumed I was joking....

Oops

[MathBlade]

I wouldn't kill Titus there.

Interesting. Who would you kill?

Manatee

Why is Titus' go to insult this game to call people children?

Informed of an innocent child?

Also this is funny

I thought I dropped enough hints with my posts that if I ever was forced to claim I could point to stuff.

But (I believe it was you) read this post and just assumed I was joking....

Oops

Hmmm no why.

Who do you think is scum on the Max wagon?

[Dwlee99]

Salsa > Marci > Kyo (except Kyo gives me the deepwolg heebie jeebies)

[MathBlade]

Salsa > Marci > Kyo (except Kyo gives me the deepwolg heebie jeebies)

Why Salsa more than Marci?

[Dwlee99]

Salsa just seems scummier.

[marcistar]

As long as you aren’t in your opinion throwing then you’re golden. You always have to play to win con.

I don’t see a protown reason to self vote and this really seems like a scum claim

because i feel bad LOL
i feel so bad for max

Personally I think Marci fits the VCA a lot better.

It explains why the wagon stalled. Marci had a lag vote on DGB she planned to move then boom Kyo wagons DGB out of no where and she can’t move it.

??
i wasnt ever gonna move my vote off of drippinggoofball, i was pretty sure i wanted to either stick there or die.
if i "planned to move off" then why didnt i when there was the so so many opportunities?

This is a really weak reason to stay on DFG. The 4 Roden asks about, for context, are DGB, Dwlee, geraintm, and Manatee. Town!Marci used the "I feel bad for [a replaced-in player] getting voted out" in Owner's Market Blitz recently, and I mistakenly thought that meant she was scum with the replaced-in player. But as town, she didn't vote that player. Dwlee is a replace-in, but so is DGB. The "feel bad" doesn't apply to DGB here though, so there is a difference here that initially appears like a similarity to her last towngame with me.

HUH IS DWLEE A REPLACE IN- i just lowkey felt bad for them based on what they were saying

drippinggoofball felt diff than that player ur talking about.

I'm no longer doubting Math, now when considering Marci's DGB vote. I also think scum!Marci is TMIing her partners in RVS if it's {DGB, Marci, Salsabil}.

just elim me

assuming thats the team,
im not confident enough with my abilities as scum to keep my vote on drippinggoofball all day, certainly not confident enough to then make (1366) so it just doesn't really make sense imo.

- -

yall if i was scum, genuine question;
what do i have to gain from doing that hammer?

[MathBlade]

Regarding your DGB vote, maybe you weren’t. Maybe you were aiming for a miselim. The point is your vote was on it while doing fuck all to get it elimmed.

Don’t worry I am pretty much in the camp of probably scum or if you’re not scum you need to not be here at melo.

And you gain a Townie dead? Until I conclusively find your partner that sort of question is kinda silly. If it’s you and Dwlee you gain a day to give them some breathing room. You and Salsa means that Salsa isn’t forced to give more content.

The what you gain is dependent on your partner.

[Salsabil Faria]

Im thinking salsa is the elim for today? it seeems pretty cut and dry but im absolutely not sure who buddy is at all

Why me?
When I'll flip town, who will be scums according to you?

[Salsabil Faria]

I am kinda thinking Marci Salsa.

That naked hammer was sus as fuck.

And got your message Manatee. You’re still a friendly neighbor.

Again same question, when you see my green flip, what does it tell you?

[Salsabil Faria]

Btw, I think it's

Dwlee

&

Marci

...

VOTE: Dwlee

[Dwlee99]

Okay maybe there's credibility to the Salsa/Marci solve if Salsa is going to say we are both suspicious and then vote me.

[MathBlade]

I am kinda thinking Marci Salsa.

That naked hammer was sus as fuck.

And got your message Manatee. You’re still a friendly neighbor.

Again same question, when you see my green flip, what does it tell you?

That scum would be in control of the game because we didn’t elim Marci.
Then I try again tomorrow.

In a situation like this you always elim the player most likely to be scum and hunt around them.

If for some reason Marci becomes less likely to be scum then we move onto the next most likely.

Assuming someone is scum then aiming for their partner is a recipe for failure.

[Salsabil Faria]

If there is a deepwolf it is Kyo, just saying.

If you flip town, I'll consider that but still not convinced.

[marcistar]

And you gain a Townie dead? Until I conclusively find your partner that sort of question is kinda silly. If it’s you and Dwlee you gain a day to give them some breathing room. You and Salsa means that Salsa isn’t forced to give more content.

The what you gain is dependent on your partner.

ssbm_kyouko considered me part of their townblock thing

what do i gain from making a scummy hammer, and ruining my chances at that townblock..?
if i was scum surely i would want to milk the townblock for all it worth, hmm?

sacrificing how towny i seem, just to get a townie miselimed and then be sused right after is not a move i would make

[geraintm]

argh, this feels like scm trying to direct a vote. We are too close to losing and too many people making bets on tomorrow if someone doesn't flip scum today.

I still want to look at Math from Day 1

but then ssbm_Kyouko + marcistar on both wagons.

not mafia just dodging the game.

known town roles are

me - informed child
titus - babysitter
manatee - friendly neighbour

that is it so far right?

[MathBlade]

And you gain a Townie dead? Until I conclusively find your partner that sort of question is kinda silly. If it’s you and Dwlee you gain a day to give them some breathing room. You and Salsa means that Salsa isn’t forced to give more content.

The what you gain is dependent on your partner.

ssbm_kyouko considered me part of their townblock thing

what do i gain from making a scummy hammer, and ruining my chances at that townblock..?
if i was scum surely i would want to milk the townblock for all it worth, hmm?

sacrificing how towny i seem, just to get a townie miselimed and then be sused right after is not a move i would make

Again, without knowing your partner I can’t jump to why.

I don’t have to answer every question why to be correct.

Similar to how evolution is true even though we don’t have every itty bitty fossil of every creature that ever lived.

I am not going to give some massive hypothesis for scum to manipulate. There are many possible worlds including some where you are town. It’s just the most likely you are scum.

I have to work now but instead of trying to get me to townread you you should be hunting that way if you’re town you point a FoS at scum or give enough town pings to where people see your motivations.

Until you can provide a more probable player or do something resembling hunting I don’t give a fuck.

[Dwlee99]

We should probably mass claim today BTW

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm no longer doubting Math, now when considering Marci's DGB vote. I also think scum!Marci is TMIing her partners in RVS if it's {DGB, Marci, Salsabil}.

Titus was also suspicious of Dwlee/omo as a unit I feel like, though she did associate omo and Math, with omo being more likely. I think it's clear her Babysit was meant to be insurance to kill a scumread in the event of her death. I think scum!Math and scum!Dwlee might have been more careful in case Titus targeted one of them. I don't think the scumteam felt they were at risk of being targeted.

That really leaves 2 of Marci, Salsabil, N_M

Wait, I forget about

Not_Mafia

....

Dwlee

's green flip will show the scumteam of

Marci

&

Not_Mafia

.
I'm more sure about

Marci

now than

Dwlee

(want to consider

Omo

's read here), so I'm switching my vote...

UNVOTE: Dwlee

VOTE: Marci

[Dwlee99]

Thinker

[Salsabil Faria]

i feel incredibly bad for that hammer but like i lowkey didnt know it was a hammer, i thought i would be able to wake up and explain it later.
i should 100% be punished if the numbers call for it

(WAIT GUYS LOWKEY WHATS THE RULES ON SELFVOTING- AM I ALLOWED TO DO IT HERE OR IS THAT AGAINST THE RULES)

No, you're allowed...
Do you use AtE as any alignment?

[Salsabil Faria]

Salsa > Marci > Kyo (except Kyo gives me the deepwolg heebie jeebies)

Ok,

Dwlee

is scum! Partner is either

Marci

or

Not_Mafia

.

UNVOTE: Marci

VOTE: Dwlee

Final vote of today!