mini normal 2226; who won

[MathBlade]

1) idk if that’s even the right term tbh, what I’m saying is despite being more poetic-sounding, the contents of 195 feel just as game-relevant as anything else. To put it in a poetic perspective, we write our thoughts in the dirt, while Aristeia writes hers in the clouds.
2) because you and Menalque played in EISAL 2 on a hydra that was titled “a Gun and a Rose”, and you both weren’t in G&R V on your mains
3) Because I would figure you’d see where I’m coming from better.

@Datisi
@Gamma

Can either of you tell me what kind of game this was so I can go to that forum or ideally provide a link? I feel I am losing some context here.

[MathBlade]

Is my vote not a comment on what I think of the wagon?

No

If everyone is jumping off, why would I be so desperate as scum to keep on here? Wouldn't this draw attention to me as it has?

Would you call scum "describing a reason why they scum read the person they are currently voting" as desperate? I didn't, and wouldn't. That is a strange interpretation of my words.

The jump on and off of Aristeia doesn't feel natural to me. Did you scumread her when you voted her in 171?

What does not feel natural to you? I said she did not have reads, and that was worrying to me. She gave a read list, and provided reasonings when asked.

As for other reads I have, Umlaut, Seanzie, Vulture, and Datisi for town, something about Gamma is pinging me, but I can't really put it into words, so I'm ignoring it for now, still think Flubber is scum, the push on Seanzie and his post about mindmelding w/ Titus reads phony.

See, this is what I find strange about your response. One of the things that I said was bothering me was that you don't have reads out there

Spoiler:

As of now he has commented on T3, and Flubber, and thats it.

And even with the two of them, he has been stand offish of taking stances. Despite having interacted with T3, I have no idea if he thinks that T3 is townie or scummy? So that leaves Chaos's only read in thread to be flubber.

And, with Flubber, he also held back...

And you see me make that point. Apparently realize that you should put some reads out out, but then also don't realize that I had a point, and therefore valid reason to pressure you for reads?

There seems to me to be a bit of cognitive dissonance between the omgus voting me reaction (which when coming from town, I find normally comes from a place of feeling like the reasons the person is scum reading you are non-genuine), while also addressing my biggest concern about you in this way.

+1 Lukewarm is anything but a lukewarm townread

[MathBlade]

it was pretty obvious that t3 was trying to get out of having to say something about mech and i'm hmm at alchemist trying to force the issue >_>

i still wanna see the wall on my meta, though.

it was pretty obvious that t3 was trying to get out of having to say something about mech and i'm hmm at alchemist trying to force the issue >_>

i still wanna see the wall on my meta, though.

It’s the only acceptable answer he could have given, but to call attention to the post then try to sweep it under the rug instead of giving their thoughts looked more like scum going “shit I fucked up and this looks bad, let’s hope they forget about it and it goes away.”

In almost every answer you “let scum go” in that case and good town knows it. The role will prove itself or then you come back later if someone claims and subtly ask T3 for his opinion. Mass claim early loses games here. Odds are scum just aren’t going to be that dumb with a fish. This is only done if you’re 99% sure that this comes from scum and sometimes not even then.

I just have to figure out if you’re bad town or my initial vibes were right.

VOTE: Alchemist

I am leaning towards my vibes being right.

[MathBlade]

it was pretty obvious that t3 was trying to get out of having to say something about mech and i'm hmm at alchemist trying to force the issue >_>

i still wanna see the wall on my meta, though.

It’s the only acceptable answer he could have given, but to call attention to the post then try to sweep it under the rug instead of giving their thoughts looked more like scum going “shit I fucked up and this looks bad, let’s hope they forget about it and it goes away.”

I’ve seen T3!scum do something like this, I don’t think is it

Having just been in a T3 game with T3 while admittedly didn’t look over a lot of their posts in that game after the “informed of rolecop post” I do get Calculasia vibes here. So I think T3 is town.

[Datisi]

1) idk if that’s even the right term tbh, what I’m saying is despite being more poetic-sounding, the contents of 195 feel just as game-relevant as anything else. To put it in a poetic perspective, we write our thoughts in the dirt, while Aristeia writes hers in the clouds.
2) because you and Menalque played in EISAL 2 on a hydra that was titled “a Gun and a Rose”, and you both weren’t in G&R V on your mains
3) Because I would figure you’d see where I’m coming from better.

@Datisi
@Gamma

Can either of you tell me what kind of game this was so I can go to that forum or ideally provide a link? I feel I am losing some context here.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=81945

everything is still a lie 2, though i think the important part of that post was the fact that mena and i have hydra called "a gun and a rose", and in GnR5 there were two accounts called "gun" and "rose". and they weren't us

[MathBlade]

After a meta skim on Datisi I'm comfortable locktowning him.

I'm ok with

Datisti Gamma T3 Lukewarm Flubber all being town.

I am okay with this list with a tail end off for Titus because I will always be paranoid of her but she’s town enough today to not be the elim.

[MathBlade]

1) idk if that’s even the right term tbh, what I’m saying is despite being more poetic-sounding, the contents of 195 feel just as game-relevant as anything else. To put it in a poetic perspective, we write our thoughts in the dirt, while Aristeia writes hers in the clouds.
2) because you and Menalque played in EISAL 2 on a hydra that was titled “a Gun and a Rose”, and you both weren’t in G&R V on your mains
3) Because I would figure you’d see where I’m coming from better.

@Datisi
@Gamma

Can either of you tell me what kind of game this was so I can go to that forum or ideally provide a link? I feel I am losing some context here.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=81945

everything is still a lie 2, though i think the important part of that post was the fact that mena and i have hydra called "a gun and a rose", and in GnR5 there were two accounts called "gun" and "rose". and they weren't us

Lmao that’s gonna be some mind fuckery while reading considering I keep track of everyone as the first letter(s) of their handle

[Datisi]

why is titus town?

[MathBlade]

I have a strong preference to a Chaos > Meg elim day 1.

I think that they are both about equally scummy, but Meg having actually no opinions in thread means that we don't get any associatives from a Meg flip.

Relatable opinion. If there was a choice between those two, I'd see your point. It's Flubber v Meg though and a scum vote is better than a town one.

I think that we can make Chaos happen.

Datisi and Ari both voted Chaos already, and I have not seen anything from them to think that their reads there have changed.

You+me+Datisi+Ari is already the same number of people currently voting Meg, so that pivot seems to still be on the table from my pov

VOTE: Chaos

Make the game lawful aligned!

[MathBlade]

why is titus town?

I believe I addressed this earlier when you asked me to look at Titus v Flubber. There’s also something she is doing that is remarkably protown that I don’t want to ruin, even if she is scum she is working in town’s benefit. I think we will have to see what happens overnight to get a more firm read but I am okay with giving her a townread.

[Datisi]

all i saw earlier was "titus has had bad reads so they can be tvt", i hadn't seen Actual Reasons for her to be town, but to be fair i have been skimming a lot too so

[MathBlade]

if titus flips red this game, we're yeeting flubber, no questions asked. and i'm thinking of jumping the ship here and voting there now anyway. titus here gives me a huge vibe of "scum realizing the wagon on buddy isn't going away on its own, jumping into action to try to save them", especially as i know she loves trying to protect her partners.

my only issue is that i want to get a better read on meg first, and i know i won't be able to do that for a bit here... sad.

Not really seeing this here. Titus is very much a strategic scum. If the wagon wasn’t going to go away she makes the play to save Flubber earlier or stomps scum Flubber into dirt. Scum Titus doesn’t like playing from a hand of weakness which is ironically a hand of weakness because if she is scum her strategy becomes clear.

[MathBlade]

all i saw earlier was "titus has had bad reads so they can be tvt", i hadn't seen Actual Reasons for her to be town, but to be fair i have been skimming a lot too so

My reasoning is more nuanced.

It’s I went through all the possible alignments then TvT is the only one that really makes the most sense. The others are probable.

My main other reason to townread her involves things we shouldn’t talk about so I guess because Star Wars?

[MathBlade]

all i saw earlier was "titus has had bad reads so they can be tvt", i hadn't seen Actual Reasons for her to be town, but to be fair i have been skimming a lot too so

My reasoning is more nuanced.

It’s I went through all the possible alignments then TvT is the only one that really makes the most sense. The others are probable.

My main other reason to townread her involves things we shouldn’t talk about so I guess because Star Wars?

Are possible*

Ebwop

[T3]

VOTE: megazumarill

honestly if they have the extra vote over chaos it's worth consolidating here

E-2

????

[Alchemist21]

because Star Wars?

This always the best reason to do anything.

[MathBlade]

I am caught up now as of this post. I have game night tonight so I may not be online tonight.

[Titus]

My main other reason to townread her involves things we shouldn’t talk about so I guess because Star Wars?

Because Starwars is great. Long love the society. Especially an overjoyed run of making bread of sausages. Specially 10 leaves.

[Titus]

all i saw earlier was "titus has had bad reads so they can be tvt", i hadn't seen Actual Reasons for her to be town, but to be fair i have been skimming a lot too so

I don't mind a FoS or two, as long as my townreads live. I can play crazy.

[Titus]

My main other reason to townread her involves things we shouldn’t talk about so I guess because Star Wars?

Because Starwars is great. Long love the society. Especially an overjoyed run of making bread of sausages. Specially 10 leaves.

Parker can secure the prize.

Go be Sophie.

[Titus]

because Star Wars?

This always the best reason to do anything.

Pirate Mollie would agree.

[MathBlade]

My main other reason to townread her involves things we shouldn’t talk about so I guess because Star Wars?

Because Starwars is great. Long love the society. Especially an overjoyed run of making bread of sausages. Specially 10 leaves.

Parker can secure the prize.

Go be Sophie.

You realize I am a horrible Sophie when town right?

Ugh why couldn’t I be Hardison?

Let’s just hope I don’t fork this up.

[Titus]

My main other reason to townread her involves things we shouldn’t talk about so I guess because Star Wars?

Because Starwars is great. Long love the society. Especially an overjoyed run of making bread of sausages. Specially 10 leaves.

Parker can secure the prize.

Go be Sophie.

You realize I am a horrible Sophie when town right?

Ugh why couldn’t I be Hardison?

Let’s just hope I don’t fork this up.

I have the forks.

Hardison is overjoyed.

[MathBlade]

Besides Umlaut (who you’ve repeated is scum repeatedly) who do you have a scumread on and why?

[Titus]

Besides Umlaut (who you’ve repeated is scum repeatedly) who do you have a scumread on and why?

I'm not sure who is scum. I'm content with everyone in my pool fighting each other.