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Post Post #5200 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:50 am

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I want to be friends with Chara forever and then after
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Post Post #5201 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:51 am

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In post 5193, Chara wrote:when i played with scum Flea, faer arguments made more sense to me than they are right now, i don't know if that's incidental or an indicator fae might try to be more "palatable" in faer play as scum, but it's hard to make a judgement with so little experience, just something i was considering.
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Post Post #5202 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:52 am

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In post 5197, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 5180, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 5165, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 5162, Yang wrote:It's me. I should choose
Who would you choose?

And this may be a slightly touchy subject, but without Yin to provide balance, what happens to you now?
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Post Post #5203 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:57 am

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In post 5194, Chara wrote:
In post 5169, clidd wrote:The feeling I had was that the posting seemed planned and not spontaneously organic from a transparent perspective, in the sense that there seemed to be a filter between what it thought and what was transmitted (similar to the scumread I had on scum!hopkirk), although maybe this could be a playstyle trait (reserved/not posting compulsively what you're thinking 24-7).
i would not call myself reserved nor someone who holds back my thoughts, generally.

i
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trying to be sensitive to Ydrasse even though i was getting frustrated, and more recently i have been trying to avoid posting when upset or at the very least to edit myself so i don't say something i'd regret later. but when you have time it'd be nice to see something more specific, ie specific posts that gave you this impression.
I did that when I didn’t post for a day. I was extremely upset and didn’t want to risk taking it out on the game. I’ve learned that if I’m seriously that upset - to the point where I’m not sure I can trust myself - it’s just better not to post at all, than risk being possibly toxic.
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Post Post #5204 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:02 am

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In post 5198, Amy Dunne wrote:I definitely don’t think that’s what Pooky’s trying to do here. I very much doubt he’d be totally down with completely abdicating responsibility onto you.
?

I think Chara is mafia so I don't really care who Chara picks as town between Clidd/Flea
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Post Post #5205 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:16 am

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In post 5204, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 5198, Amy Dunne wrote:I definitely don’t think that’s what Pooky’s trying to do here. I very much doubt he’d be totally down with completely abdicating responsibility onto you.
?

I think Chara is mafia so I don't really care who Chara picks as town between Clidd/Flea
Chara was arguing that you were trying to put the responsibility on our win/loss on it.
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Post Post #5206 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:17 am

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Thing is at this point we're all responsible to some degree.

Me more than others for the town loss when it happens.
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Post Post #5207 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:20 am

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In post 5192, Chara wrote:
In post 5179, Amy Dunne wrote:@Chara I would really love for you to be town here, because Pooky is completely paranoid of you but I think you misunderstood what I mean by pressure. I mean that with both Clidd and Flea hard sr the other, neither is putting any pressure on you, which is why if we lim correctly between Clidd/Flea, then the surviving slot and you will be forced to 1v1, which I don’t see happening before that.
i understood you meant pressure from clidd or Flea. i don't agree that i'm going to suddenly become more readable once pushed by a player i'd now know is confscum.

but i get the point. it's just the "let Chara choose between clidd or Flea" post makes it seem like you expect me to do this by myself, so if i'm wrong we lose and it's my fault and if i'm right yay except i still have to convince you i'm town. so i'm asking you to just assume i'm town today since i'm not getting eliminated and figure out who the scum is in clidd or Flea. i know you think it's more likely Flea because of Ydrasse's interactions with clidd, don't know if Pooky agrees.
I’m not locked into Flea being scum since Ydra flipped. Do you honestly think this is what Pooky actually meant?
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Post Post #5208 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:22 am

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i mean if flea/clidd has a scum in it and we elim them and we lose its at least like a lot on me for being wrong about Chara.

I don't really have any desire to dodge responsibility.

its just a game I'll believe what I believe.
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Post Post #5209 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:24 am

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In post 5208, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i mean if flea/clidd has a scum in it and we elim them and we lose its at least like a lot on me for being wrong about Chara.

I don't really have any desire to dodge responsibility.

its just a game I'll believe what I believe.
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Post Post #5210 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:25 am

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In post 5075, pj harvey dent wrote:
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[5] Not Voting:
Amy Dunne, Flea The Magician, PookyTheMagicalBear, clidd, Chara

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to sentence. If there is no majority by the deadline, plurality will decide.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-08-05 09:03:56).


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Post Post #5211 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:02 pm

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In post 5207, Amy Dunne wrote:I’m not locked into Flea being scum since Ydra flipped. Do you honestly think this is what Pooky actually meant?
is what i thought Pooky meant. he thinks i'm scum so it doesn't matter who i pick.
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Post Post #5212 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:03 pm

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for me it doesn't matter but for you it does matter.

I am fine taking the blame if you are town here.
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Post Post #5213 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:03 pm

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not trying to say Pooky's actually trying to make the game's outcome my fault, just saying that was what is stressing me out.
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Post Post #5214 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:04 pm

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It's a game <3

winning/losing doesn't matter imo

let's just have fun
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Post Post #5215 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:06 pm

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just vote whoever you want to then.
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Post Post #5216 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:07 pm

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In post 5200, Yang wrote:I want to be friends with Chara forever and then after
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Post Post #5217 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:22 pm

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The biggest screw factor in this game is for 3 of us, it's 50/50 already.
For two of us, it's dodging the needle in the haystack.

This isn't a simple game by any means - it's a freaking Hecc-tic game.

This is part of my beef with Clidd rn.
Clidd has his solve, and is being contradictory over the "I want to see if Chara is town, but flea is absolutely scum here" as though these are potentially difference scenarios.
Then Chara I don't recall has actually expressed a solve-like read here.
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Post Post #5218 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:23 pm

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i'm okay actually, sorry.

going to look at clidd scum again.
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Post Post #5219 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:27 pm

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In post 5176, clidd wrote:But at the moment I'm acting in a hypothetical world while gathering information to understand if a scum!chara scenario is possible (which seems easier than trying to see a town!you scenario).
i read this as clidd trying to read if i'm scum because he finds it easier than trying to find town!Flea.
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Post Post #5220 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:33 pm

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actually i'm going to take a break for a day, Pooky is right that there's no need to let this stress me out so much. i'll do it when i get back.
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Post Post #5221 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:03 pm

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I did a reread during the day in the time I had available and my mind has not changed about not seeing s/s between ydrasse and chara.

Also did a reread of d1 and d2 and didn't find anything that I attributed to "chara can be scum here". By play it seems quite null. Still need to see specifically when the tone scumpings started on this timeline.
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Post Post #5222 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:07 pm

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In post 5217, Flea The Magician wrote:The biggest screw factor in this game is for 3 of us, it's 50/50 already.
For two of us, it's dodging the needle in the haystack.

This isn't a simple game by any means - it's a freaking Hecc-tic game.

This is part of my beef with Clidd rn.
Clidd has his solve, and is being contradictory over the "I want to see if Chara is town, but flea is absolutely scum here" as though these are potentially difference scenarios.
Then Chara I don't recall has actually expressed a solve-like read here.
This makes me want to vote Chara ^

It's not the first time you've interpreted my post in the worst possible way.
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Post Post #5223 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:09 pm

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In post 5219, Chara wrote:
In post 5176, clidd wrote:But at the moment I'm acting in a hypothetical world while gathering information to understand if a scum!chara scenario is possible (which seems easier than trying to see a town!you scenario).
i read this as clidd trying to read if i'm scum because he finds it easier than trying to find town!Flea.
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Post Post #5224 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:13 pm

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Well, I'll avoid letting the heat of the moment influence me.

There is more to read. Let's see if something changes..
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