mini normal 2226; who won

[Titus]

I'm going to work and hopefully return to a pleasant/diplomatic state. I know Titus asked about my Vulture TR, tl;dr they do this stupid fucking deadweight act every game and live to take shots & feel superior when someone actually plays the game and pushes them for it. Horrendous fucking play and maybe they're worth a policy but I think they're town.

Absolutely not.

Titus is 100% not worth a policy this game. And yeah she pokes at things that she doesn’t agree with but that’s what literally everyone does. She’s just blunt about it.

If you’re talking policy D1 your head is not in the game.

Prism is reffering to Policy limming Vulture. Pronoun usage was hard. I had to read it twice.

[MathBlade]

I hate if I was scum, why wouldn't I do X arguments? It's a question that's really a way for people to defend themselves without actually being townie. There's so many reasons why people do something. It's not like scum are going to say "yes you got me" to any response anyway.

It’s an attempt to get you to use more than two braincells on my motivations as scum v town and why the scum ones don’t hold weight. Which if you want to call it a defense, sure, but it’s more a commentary on how shortsighted of an analysis you did.

But then again I’ve genuinely never seen you apply correct VCA as long as I’ve been around and only seen it used to help scum so my faith is little.

This is really encouraging me to look elsewhere. [/sarcasm]

It's fair enough to say that you aren't lockscum based on my VCA alone. You're just my biggest suspect. I'm townreading all but you and Chaos on that wagon. Your ISO lacks content. So does Chaos. Chaos is VLA.

What's your excuse?

Why do you have a VCA when you say you can’t do VCA without flips?

[MathBlade]

That's about Vulture, MathBlade

Last line is still true.

[MathBlade]

I'm super disengaged but I think Prism v Ari is tvt.

VOTE: vult
I'll sheep.

Who are you sheeping here?

Neither Prism nor Ari are voting for vulture atm.

???? voting for Vulture.

What was that supposed to say?

[Titus]

I hate if I was scum, why wouldn't I do X arguments? It's a question that's really a way for people to defend themselves without actually being townie. There's so many reasons why people do something. It's not like scum are going to say "yes you got me" to any response anyway.

It’s an attempt to get you to use more than two braincells on my motivations as scum v town and why the scum ones don’t hold weight. Which if you want to call it a defense, sure, but it’s more a commentary on how shortsighted of an analysis you did.

But then again I’ve genuinely never seen you apply correct VCA as long as I’ve been around and only seen it used to help scum so my faith is little.

This is really encouraging me to look elsewhere. [/sarcasm]

It's fair enough to say that you aren't lockscum based on my VCA alone. You're just my biggest suspect. I'm townreading all but you and Chaos on that wagon. Your ISO lacks content. So does Chaos. Chaos is VLA.

What's your excuse?

Why do you have a VCA when you say you can’t do VCA without flips?

I gave up on telling people it's wagon momentum instead of VCA. They would just say it's VCA. So I give up half the time.

[Aristeia]

Aristeia if you're that worried about me pacing the game/controlling the thread you fucking try instead.

I've been told to shut up by Mathblade/Others and let the thread breath so I'm fine twiddling my thumbs over here.

I've already stated what I believe the solution to be and people have stopped listening to me.

I care more about everyone having "fun" than maximizing my probability of winning.

[MathBlade]

Aristeia if you're that worried about me pacing the game/controlling the thread you fucking try instead.

I've been told to shut up by Mathblade/Others and let the thread breath so I'm fine twiddling my thumbs over here.

I've already stated what I believe the solution to be and people have stopped listening to me.

I care more about everyone having "fun" than maximizing my probability of winning.

I said let the thread breathe and see what develops. The thread is breathing now and people are talking. It’s back to a healthy discourse

Did you see anything that strengthens your case?
Did you see anything that weakens it?

[Datisi]

even talking about them becoming your preferred vote, but you didn't vote them.

Also, about this. moment they were my prefered vote, I voted them.

I started with them being scummy, but chaos was my preferred vote.

Then, it got to the point where it was about equal.

Then, I saw the vulture counter wagon pop up from no where, and making sure one of my top scum reads was a viable wagon was enough to push my vote over

these posts, to me, made it seem like your preferred vote was meg rather than omega, but were holding back for ??? reasons:

Spoiler:

Just like, where I am at.

I still think that both Meg and Chaos are scummy, but I my preference for chaos is falling away.

Meg has gained some associatives recently, more in how other people (and not just prism) have interacted with the slot then just their recent read list, and the lack of meg associaives was the main thing pushing me towards flipping chaos first.

I am considering moving my vote to meg, which, I

know

.

I was the one saying Chaos>Meg, and now people are moving my way, but yeah.

x.x

however, i will say that that could've been a slight exaggeration of your wish to vote meg in my mind, so.

[Titus]

Aristeia if you're that worried about me pacing the game/controlling the thread you fucking try instead.

I've been told to shut up by Mathblade/Others and let the thread breath so I'm fine twiddling my thumbs over here.

I've already stated what I believe the solution to be and people have stopped listening to me.

I care more about everyone having "fun" than maximizing my probability of winning.

Who do you think their partners are?
What do you think of Prism's Vulture defense?

[MathBlade]

I hate if I was scum, why wouldn't I do X arguments? It's a question that's really a way for people to defend themselves without actually being townie. There's so many reasons why people do something. It's not like scum are going to say "yes you got me" to any response anyway.

It’s an attempt to get you to use more than two braincells on my motivations as scum v town and why the scum ones don’t hold weight. Which if you want to call it a defense, sure, but it’s more a commentary on how shortsighted of an analysis you did.

But then again I’ve genuinely never seen you apply correct VCA as long as I’ve been around and only seen it used to help scum so my faith is little.

This is really encouraging me to look elsewhere. [/sarcasm]

It's fair enough to say that you aren't lockscum based on my VCA alone. You're just my biggest suspect. I'm townreading all but you and Chaos on that wagon. Your ISO lacks content. So does Chaos. Chaos is VLA.

What's your excuse?

Why do you have a VCA when you say you can’t do VCA without flips?

I gave up on telling people it's wagon momentum instead of VCA. They would just say it's VCA. So I give up half the time.

VOTE: Unvote

Nope. I am now sketched out. You are hyper literal like me. I do not buy this. I am reevaluating you later today to see if this is a new meta thing or you’re scum.

[Aristeia]

I've literally stated a complete solve I don't know what else you want me to do.

[Aristeia]

Right now my solve is Prism - Meg - Alchemist21.

^

[Datisi]

@aristeia, why is alchemist scum?

[Prism]

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12924618]post 948[/url], MathBlade"]If you’re talking policy D1 your head is not in the game.[/quote]I don't know if I would call it out of the game but you're not wrong in any case.

I am already Anti-Fun Prism so whatever. I might as well take my head out for a bit and stop f5ing. I will 100% be back later tonight but I am very frustrated by the state of the game.

[MathBlade]

I've literally stated a complete solve I don't know what else you want me to do.

What if you swapped Prism for Titus? I think that’s more likely how she scumreads Alchemist yet she wanted the Vulture wagon.

[Titus]

Well at least it makes me a little less consensus obvtown.

[Aristeia]

their iso is very weak,

they don't feel very engaged.

I don't think they care about the answers to the questions they ask.

their voting history is kind of ick and fits with a flubber partner.

[Aristeia]

I am already Anti-Fun Prism so whatever. I might as well take my head out for a bit and stop f5ing. I will 100% be back later tonight but I am very frustrated by the state of the game.

what are you even fustrated about?

you know the easiest way to make me townread you is to catch a bad guy

you are perfectly capable of catching a bad guy.

they want me to give you space and I'm fine giving you space to do your thing.

[Titus]

I've literally stated a complete solve I don't know what else you want me to do.

What if you swapped Prism for Titus? I think that’s more likely how she scumreads Alchemist yet she wanted the Vulture wagon.

I don't scumread Alchemist21 independent of Vulture. I just don’t townread him independently.

[Aristeia]

What if you swapped Prism for Titus? I think that’s more likely how she scumreads Alchemist yet she wanted the Vulture wagon.

Titus is too random to be scum in my opinion.

[Titus]

I've literally stated a complete solve I don't know what else you want me to do.

What if you swapped Prism for Titus? I think that’s more likely how she scumreads Alchemist yet she wanted the Vulture wagon.

I don't scumread Alchemist21 independent of Vulture. I just don’t townread Alchemist21 independently.

Fbwop

[MathBlade]

What if you swapped Prism for Titus? I think that’s more likely how she scumreads Alchemist yet she wanted the Vulture wagon.

Titus is too random to be scum in my opinion.

Hmmm that is a good point and why I initially townread her.

VOTE: Vulture

Guess I was just paranoid.

[Aristeia]

I think Prism's read of Vulture is accurate regardless of Prism's alignment.

[Datisi]

Well at least it makes me a little less consensus obvtown.

i feel like i missed something, because those are definitely not the words i would've used to describe titus in this game.

[Prism]

I am going to hurl my fucking computer out of a window.

If you are town consider letting me fucking play the game without you crying about it every 5 seconds.

I will gladly answer your questions later but I am not at all appreciative of continuing to antagonize me for shit that is trivial to reply to as scum.