mini normal 2226; who won

[Prism]

I think Prism's read of Vulture is accurate regardless of Prism's alignment.

GREAT

SO MAYBE

ACTUALLY GO TO BAT FOR IT, OR LET ME WITHOUT CRYING

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST POOKY

[Prism]

whatever, dude, sorry, did not mean to out your main

will try again at 9est

[MathBlade]

I think Prism's read of Vulture is accurate regardless of Prism's alignment.

GREAT

SO MAYBE

ACTUALLY GO TO BAT FOR IT, OR LET ME WITHOUT CRYING

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST POOKY

First off they’re probably not Pooky

Second off stop outing alts if you think that’s who they are

How confident are Meg/Alch scum to you Ari?

[Vulture]

Sigh.

[Aristeia]

I'm sorry you feel that I am antagonizing you.

I will avoid talking to you until you give me permission.

[Titus]

@Ari, If you're wrong on Prism, what are your reads?

@Vulture, Can you give us a readwall? Intelligent comment? Why a sigh in 978?

[Vulture]

Because this is becoming an unpleasant day for me.

I’ll post more when I’m home.

[Aristeia]

@Ari, If you're wrong on Prism, what are your reads?

@Vulture, Can you give us a readwall? Intelligent comment? Why a sigh in 978?

I mean Meg/Alchemist are scummy for me independently of Prism, it's not like a team-read.


Maybe Chaos? I dunno he hasn't really done much. It's day 1 I just have people I don't like and I want to hit some baddies and get NK'd and flirt with Datisi in the dead thread.

[MathBlade]

Ugh I need another VC. Like it’s getting to the point where any of Chaos/Meg/Vulture are okay to me. They’re all in my PoE and I am getting to the point of I just want a flip to sort out people.

[Vulture]

@Ari

I don’t really get the Alchemist scumread skimming the iso.

[MegAzumarill]

And even following that, it has taken questions for Meg to expound on things. And the way they have expounded, feels more like a conversation in abstraction then how they feel about each player they are talking about. Like, why each action could be read the way they read them in the read lists, as opposed to what they think about each player.

you're right, sorry i read this paragraph and then promptly deleted it from my brain for some reason

i think "conversation in abstraction" puts into words what i've been vaguely feeling about most of meg's posts but was struggling to express.

I agree that I am working in abstracts. I don't really see the problem with doing so, though I realize it probably doesn't do a whole lot to get the point across. (i.e. Vulture wagon started up for the same reasons I had pushed them, but stated in an evidently clearer push by Titus.) I work in abstracts for a few reasons.
(this is assuming you are using the dictionary definition of abstraction, please inform me if its a different term, couldn't find anything on the wiki)
1. I understand I am likely the lim today, and want to bring up my observations about the game to try to help give input after I am dead. (primary reason for the following question)
2. I enjoy working in abstracts, as it can help me from tunneling on a particular townie and try to reason out the game and player's perspectives on situations.

A question in general I'd like to discuss is to assume I'm voted out today, and flip green. Who do you scumread now and why?

[Vulture]

Meg, why do you keep pushing on point 1 when you’re not the top wagon?

[Vulture]

You’re clearly aware of my wagon existing and have read back so you should be aware that the votes on you have dropped away, yes?

[Vulture]

The way I read you doing that right now is:

You are aware I am town -> you see the wagon but assume people will also recognize I am town -> you fear it flipping back onto you.

Feels like pre-emotive damage control.

[Vulture]

*Pre-emptive.

[Datisi]

working in abstracts makes you much harder to read. it's easy to point out *what* a player is doing and explain why it could come from town or it could come from scum because theory. and it's also a common scum tactic because it brings very little to the table but it looks like ~doing something~.

[MathBlade]

You know what fuck it.

VOTE: Meg

[T3]

I'm super disengaged but I think Prism v Ari is tvt.

VOTE: vult
I'll sheep.

Who are you sheeping here?

Neither Prism nor Ari are voting for vulture atm.

???? voting for Vulture.

What was that supposed to say?

Autocorrect. People.

[Titus]

Ugh I need another VC. Like it’s getting to the point where any of Chaos/Meg/Vulture are okay to me. They’re all in my PoE and I am getting to the point of I just want a flip to sort out people.

You're voting the towniest one.

[Titus]

In fact, I'd move Meg up to a strong town lean.

[T3]

I think Prism's read of Vulture is accurate regardless of Prism's alignment.

GREAT

SO MAYBE

ACTUALLY GO TO BAT FOR IT, OR LET ME WITHOUT CRYING

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST POOKY

First off they’re probably not Pooky

Second off stop outing alts if you think that’s who they are

How confident are Meg/Alch scum to you Ari?

Pooky was also my first guess. Similar username and avatar to another Pooky alt plus online at the same time as Pooky.

[Lukewarm]

I think Prism's read of Vulture is accurate regardless of Prism's alignment.

GREAT

SO MAYBE

ACTUALLY GO TO BAT FOR IT, OR LET ME WITHOUT CRYING

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST POOKY

First off they’re probably not Pooky

Second off stop outing alts if you think that’s who they are

How confident are Meg/Alch scum to you Ari?

Pooky was also my first guess. Similar username and avatar to another Pooky alt plus online at the same time as Pooky.

You literally quoted a post that says that you should not speculate on alts, and respond to it by speculating on the alt...

[MathBlade]

Ugh I need another VC. Like it’s getting to the point where any of Chaos/Meg/Vulture are okay to me. They’re all in my PoE and I am getting to the point of I just want a flip to sort out people.

You're voting the towniest one.

I kinda feel like if you’re town you’re wrong based on the last few pages and if you’re scum you’re buddying me.

Meg on the other hand I can use to check the Ari slot. Pretty much their entire useful ISO started only after I poked her. I think she is wrong on Prism and Meg to me is the scummier of the two.

If Meg flips scum then Prism is probably scum and I was wrong and I eat crow.

If Meg flips town though then I am likely right on my Prism read and with the lack of interaction/desire to hunt Ari goes down in my scum pool.

Pretty much I am using it as a check on her since she ignored the how confident are you question. Pretty much all my townreads are split on three wagons. If we don’t start consolidating we aren’t going to have a main town group and that’s going to be pretty damaging.

[Titus]

@Math, You're the one who literally asked me to break and shake things up rather than being on Chaos and letting things go passively.

Now that I've done that, you're complaining about the result.

It's been less than an RL day.

We have a solid towncore, which is my towncore minus me. We're doing ok here. No need for doom and gloom.

[Titus]

Also, using one flip to check someone based on their read accuracy rarely works. Genuine can be wrong.