FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt - 2 Game Over

[Cabd]

With 4 servants alive, it will take 3 votes to burn a servant.

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[Servant Alter Ego]

I know he was barely paying attention, but it's still surprising that Gamma would ask me about if I could use my skill in caster's hood and, upon receiving a negative answer, not select anyone else as a target.

[Servant Caster]

Come to think of it, we have no idea who Archer jailed. If he'd targeted Caster, then it would have prevented the roleblock on Assassin. But that's highly speculative.

if we lose this game because Gamma was too lazy to neighborize Archer so we could coordinate our roleblocks and he ended up roleblocking me the night I cleared assassin I don't think I could articulate how angry I would be at Gamma

[Servant Caster]

that would be a hilarious way to lose come to think of it

[Servant Caster]

hmm so I have no way of telling if I had actually been roleblocked.

Since Assassin didn't actually do anything on N2, I don't have the * indicator showing whether I was even successful roleblocking him

:/

[Servant Assassin]

What's your third skill Assassin?

My passive skill is being ascetic in day phases.

everything else has been confirmed.

I'll go check what from Caster's claim can be confirmed.

Side note: Considering it seems both Alter and Caster had neighborhoods with Berserker, who did he award the extra *s to?

[Servant Assassin]

I was leaning against eliming Avenger, for a mechanical reason (that I do not wish to reveal the details of)

I think Archer jailkept Avenger N1

[Servant Caster]

ok that makes sense.

Anything else we need to go over?

[Servant Alter Ego]

I was leaning against eliming Avenger, for a mechanical reason (that I do not wish to reveal the details of)

I think Archer jailkept Avenger N1

Oh.

I wish someone had figured that out on day 3.

[Servant Alter Ego]

With that possibility negated, I think the only plausible explanation I see is that it's Caster. I think scum!Assassin could have easily come into today using me going after Beast to his advantage, and used that to push me very easily, but he didn't do that.

I wish I had a good explanation for the mechanics but I don't.

[Servant Lancer]

ugh this game is giving me anxiety. I had a dream last night that the game got solved while I was asleep and then I woke up and it was in fact not solved.

[Servant Lancer]

Anything else we need to go over?

what do you mean?

What's your third skill Assassin?

My passive skill is being ascetic in day phases.

everything else has been confirmed.

I'll go check what from Caster's claim can be confirmed.

Side note: Considering it seems both Alter and Caster had neighborhoods with Berserker, who did he award the extra *s to?

Are you referring to the master selection bonus?

[Servant Caster]

it feels like nothing is happening and I'm not sure what we are waiting for.

[Servant Assassin]

I personally like basking in that E-lo glow.

Yes Lancer I was referring to the bonus stars berserker could distribute. I figure he might have mentioned them. This is only pertinent to make sure Caster could not have access to their NP N2.

As me and beast were discussing, while the mechanical solution is obvious, he thought playwise Me/caster were not up to Alter's standards, which I agreed with. And I said that until I could make a plausible non-mechanical case for Alter being scum I would not feel comfortable voting there. This isn't to say Caster's play is bad or anything close to that. Beast couldn't come up with a case either, only noting that on his reread, his argument with Alter D1 made him emotionally unable to logically analyze Alter correctly, saying he alternately thought Alter was scum raging to being in the townbin the next moment. I thought that exchange was a rare minus for Alter.

[Servant Lancer]

Yeah, I really couldn’t see alter being scum. idk.

[Servant Caster]

I thought it was Alter yesterday and said Beast/Rider were probably just T/T.

It's easy to look good if you know who the scum team is and you enjoy bussing.

[Servant Caster]

I don't think I can get to a place where Assassin is some kind of selective ascetic/strongman who just happened to activate his ability on night two when I roleblocked him.

If I'm wrong I'm sorry but it's just one of those flukey results that you don't really expect to show up in games.

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[Servant Alter Ego]

I had one of the extra stars from Berserker. My NP is 5* though, and as stated, not that useful.

[Servant Alter Ego]

I thought it was Alter yesterday and said Beast/Rider were probably just T/T.

It's easy to look good if you know who the scum team is and you enjoy bussing.

I don't even think aside from Moon Cancer I look all that good with regard to the other scum, I was mostly following other people on those reads. I've hardly been touting my own credentials when it comes to catching the scum this game, I don't feel as though I deserve much credit. You're being weirdly authoritative in that declaration. (Also, this is completely unverifiable, but I actually hate bussing with a passion and refuse to do it except as a last resort)

I don't think I can get to a place where Assassin is some kind of selective ascetic/strongman who just happened to activate his ability on night two when I roleblocked him.

If I'm wrong I'm sorry but it's just one of those flukey results that you don't really expect to show up in games.

See, the thing is, if I were town and this situation were reversed, I would probably think the exact same way, so I can't begrudge the reasoning.

But I also know that if I were scum that had been falsely cleared that's the exact line I'd be taking here.

[Servant Caster]

for me to be scum from a neutral POV without knowledge of my role PM I would have to have these abilities:

(1) Night Neighborizer - Verified by Berserker

(2) Investigates Player Alignments. - Verified since I stated you and Assassin's alignments.

(3) Some kind of investigation immunity. - Necessary for the Beast Check to False Clear me.


and then I just decided to claim "roleblocker" on Assassin in order to make him cleared when he's a pushable slot. - Why would I do that instead of just making up another ability?

Also how would I even know that Assassin doesn't have a night action to resolve on Night 2? Wouldn't him having an actual night action completely blow up my plan?

[Servant Alter Ego]

I don't know. It's possible you took a guess on the roleblock based on what assassin had hinted in the thread already. An extra clear means you living wouldn't seem as suspect. Or you could have just gotten lucky on guessing our alignments based on our stated claims (it wouldn't be

that

hard to guess)

Really, this is al speculative on my part, nothing about the game makes much sense to me right now.

[Servant Caster]

Well there's 9 possible alignment combinations and I stated yours and Assassin's.

The odds of me guessing them by "chance" is 1/81 in pure probability terms.

There's no motivation for scum!me to clear Assassin with a roleblock, it only removes a player from the mis-elim pool and really gains me nothing since I've already been cleared by Beast.

Furthermore if I fake a roleblock on Assassin and he actually did commit an action that resolved, it would blow my claim up - this makes even less sense to do for me after I have already been check-cleared by Beast.

[Servant Lancer]

I was expecting way more of a fight from whoever is scum. assassin what are you thinking right now?

I received the other * from berserker by the way. Doesn’t seem like he claimed it in either neighborhood.

[Servant Alter Ego]

Well there's 9 possible alignment combinations and I stated yours and Assassin's.

The odds of me guessing them by "chance" is 1/81 in pure probability terms.

There's no motivation for scum!me to clear Assassin with a roleblock, it only removes a player from the mis-elim pool and really gains me nothing since I've already been cleared by Beast.

Furthermore if I fake a roleblock on Assassin and he actually did commit an action that resolved, it would blow my claim up - this makes even less sense to do for me after I have already been check-cleared by Beast.

It's not pure "chance", though, you'd be able to deduce what was possible based on what info we revealed about our roles - I think almost anyone could have guessed my alignment was Chaotic Evil after my claim about my neighborhood abilities. Acting as if it would be purely random is incredibly disingenuous.

And I just realized, you'd have to have claimed SOMETHING to Berserker when you neighborized him - maybe some slight protown utility, something to seem good, and you'd have to be accountable for using it. something like that roleblock.

I can't say for sure, I'm just speculating, the only advantage I have is that I know something is wrong. I can't have made up some claim that makes me sound better, I only have the truth.