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[geraintm]

@salsabil
We have no reason not to believe manatees claim. If it wasn't true, there would have been an announced way to check it and it would have been by now.

Playing devil's advocate isn't helping town push through eliminations.

[Not_Mafia]

Cows are very caring creatures, they even have best friends.

So you voted me because you don't care about me??? I'm heart broken

Of course I do

[Salsabil Faria]

@salsabil
We have no reason not to believe manatees claim. If it wasn't true, there would have been an announced way to check it and it would have been by now.

Playing devil's advocate isn't helping town push through eliminations.

Stop putting words in my mouth & twisting my words, if you really want to

help

, I believe you would do that already but guess what?? You're only work here was to be confirmed and chilling after that!!

[Dwlee99]

My entire PoE is voting me

[Dwlee99]

Town case: I wouldn't have made the Titus kill unless I had some form of night protection.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Manatee also targeted MathBlade N2 who also confirmed she is town so yes, Manatee is confirmed

[MathBlade]

ManateeLady please come hammer Not Mafia

[Dwlee99]

I think NM is at E-2 rn.

[Dwlee99]

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2021-08-06 08:56:01).

[MathBlade]

Not_Mafia (3): MathBlade, geraintm, Dwlee99
Dwlee99 (3): ssbm_Kyouko, Not_Mafia, Salsa

Well fuck.
Dwlee and Not Mafia literally can’t change their vote.
Whichever ManateeLady votes for only gets to N-1.

Kyo seems pretty much set in her ways

Which means it’s likely me and Salsa who determine the elim.

Salsa, what’s it going to take to get you on Not Mafia?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Marci has a vote too^

[MathBlade]

Yay! Math still can’t count.

It’s pretty much between Me Marci Salsa and Manatee.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Hmm...

I just opened all of MathBlade's replaced-into games for the past 2 years. I'd estimate there are about 15 of them but wasn't counting the total.

Every town game, except one, he replaces in calmly (no exclamation points in his intro). There was one exception where he rolled mason, Mini 2179.
In about half of his scum games, (again an estimate, but there were 3 exceptions) he replaces in with an exclamation point in his intro. The exceptions are games where he replaced in later into the game, BooneyToonz XV - post 1395, and mystery box of silver 10 - post 2899, and Calculasia, where he replaced in early, but his intro post is not his normal intro of "hi everyone" or "hi awesome people" + "catching up" or "skimming" or "point me in the right direction". It is a post about how he likes math and doesn't follow his normal pattern when replacing in.

Considering every time he was town he did NOT have an exclamation point except once, and there are many more town than scum games to examine, I'd say the lack of an exclamation point is not AI, but the presence of one is a hard scumtell.
VOTE: MathBlade

[Dwlee99]

Wow I despise meta

[Dwlee99]

Y'know that townie person that we think is town based on play? Yeah well this misplaced punctuation actually tells us that he is evil

[Dwlee99]

Please just kill the cow
Please
Please

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I started digging deeper into his meta while reading Calculasia when I noticed he talked about Flea The Magician (fae was town) being readable like a chicken, if you put them in the oven and wait long enough you'll know what they are. It reminded me of what he said about Dwlee earlier in this game:

Spoiler: teapot read

Kyo you specifically posted [redacted] which is part of why I think you're full of crap.

I cant post anything specific about an ongoing game. If you're town you can figure it out for yourself.

Then if we can’t talk about an ongoing game it shouldn’t be alluded to. Is there another way to imply what you mean without skirting rules?

I said directly what I mean. I thought dwlee was lying about their eyes glazing over, like making up an excuse for why they're not very involved right now.

I'm not going to lie about being diagnosed with inattentiveness for mafia. If you think I'm scum whatever but that reason is absolutely awful.

I don't think you're lying about a diagnosis, but I do think you're not as in the game as you would be if you were town

Got it. I misunderstood. I was thinking you/Dwlee were talking about ongoing. I missed the context in the speed read. Dwlee in my opinion is not a good liar. I think that pushing them over RL if they are scum is the wrong way to go about it. Dwlee scum I think if you make them talk they will scumfirm or townfirm themselves but they’re a teapot read.

Yup.

I ask people to “prove” where they stand based on things to see if they are consistent. Votes is a way to do that. Sometimes I use questions.

We have right around 2 days until end of day and I have to start work in a moment.
Right now, you’re the top runner for elimination so testing you and your words is my priority.
If you don’t try to lead a wagon around someone pretty fast odds are you’ll be the flip.

So if you’re town it’s in your best interest to case someone or be as active as possible to find a probable scum and convince the rest of us they’re scum or to do something.

I do think you’re a teapot read and if you just do it I think you’re sortable.

A teapot read is one that boils overtime when put under heat. Eventually the flavor of the person will be known. Players like you and flea are that way to me.

Then case her.

In the additional games I was examining I was ctrl-f'ing his ISOs for words like "burn, heat, fire, tea, teapot, kettle, oven, chicken, turkey, roast, time, wait" etc. and couldn't find it in the first couple of towngames. When I was opening his ISOs I realized he almost always replaces in the same way, with one distinct difference. Sometimes he uses an exclamation point, and other times he does not.

[MathBlade]

This just seems like a desperate attempt not to elim Not Mafia lol. Like that’s just not even worth a response.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

This just seems like a desperate attempt not to elim Not Mafia lol. Like that’s just not even worth a response.

Facts are facts

[Dwlee99]

Smell grass

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Math would stake the game on N_M being scum? As in you die tomorrow if he flips town?

[MathBlade]

Math would stake the game on N_M being scum? As in you die tomorrow if he flips town?

I would put the odds pretty high he flips scum.
Bet the game, maybe.
I die tomorrow if he flips scum, no. That would be playing against wincon.
Right now I am playing the game to not lose.
Not Mafia being the elim almost assures that we (town) wins.

If Not Mafia is town and town decides that I am scum for it, then I am the elim.

[MathBlade]

And that would cause us to lose but I don’t think that realistically happens here. I think I have demonstrated how I am town and I have shown it.

Your entire point is not wanting to elim Not Mafia and an exclamation point.

[MathBlade]

Math would stake the game on N_M being scum? As in you die tomorrow if he flips town?

I would put the odds pretty high he flips scum.
Bet the game, maybe.
I die tomorrow if he flips town, no. That would be playing against wincon.
Right now I am playing the game to not lose.
Not Mafia being the elim almost assures that we (town) wins.

If Not Mafia is town and town decides that I am scum for it, then I am the elim.

Merged thoughts sorry I am hella sick

[ssbm_Kyouko]

an exclamation point.

It could be anything. It doesn't matter how small it is, it is a pattern in your play that is highly indicative of your scumgame and almost never present in your towngame. You are a creature of habit and so you stay consistent in your openings, but subconsciously, something pushes you to add that "!" when you're scum. My guess would be either you enjoy playing scum or you get nervous playing scum and overcompensate. It doesn't matter why you do it though, all that matters is that it is a provable indicator that you are >90% (estimated, the actual percentage will be coming after quotes) likely to be scum here.

I'm going to start getting the quotes now.