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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:16 pm

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In post 1969, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Without knowing scum's power we have no way of knowing what is balanced
I think we can assume all town have true claimed though. I just don’t see how this balances out without just three goons.

Pedit: Pretty much that.

Because if a vig exists and tries to hero this and loses us the game after all the work I did I am gonna cry.
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:17 pm

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Or... We could kill NM today. Because probably no vigilante and he isn't even trying
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:18 pm

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Or maybe maf has a strongman to shoot through the BS protection, so the BS actually swings the game toward Mafia if it ever claims and they can try to shoot the BS on a night they expect it to target town

Also if there is a vig in game I was thinking it would be geraintm or Manatee having multiple roles.
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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:18 pm

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VOTE: N_M

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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:20 pm

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In post 1976, Dwlee99 wrote:Or... We could kill NM today. Because probably no vigilante and he isn't even trying
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:28 pm

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If we dont reach majority today we end up on odds toMorrow. Geraintm/manatee, if either of you have a vig shot, lmk, otherwise I'm probably not going to hammer
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:35 pm

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nope. i dont think its better to wait for one of me or geraint to die. i understand your conviction with dwlee but N_M is a liability in any case and i really dont think flipping dwlee today is the best course of action
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:48 pm

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In post 1973, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1967, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I asked you if you'd stake the game on it because it feels like the way that you (and dwlee?) are saying that I want to eliminate anyone
but
N_M feels like one of you knows he will flip scum, and I thought if that someone was you that I might bait you into saying you would.

Pedit: I just played a large normal with dwlee with a similar ratio of conftown
It certainly feels like you have had a pattern of anyone but Not Mafia today. You’ve ignored G’s case on Not Mafia, flooded the thread with long wall posts with multiple other suspects. As I have stated Not Mafia is a literal troll player to me. I worry about him if he’s ever pro town.

I think furthermore if you genuinely believed that you’d be taking the free scum then hunting in me+Dwlee the next day.

The fact you’re not and saying no means something here.

Pedit: It’s possible scum have a PR of some kind which is why I delayed an answer hoping they would but I doubt it. The roleblocker/stopper would have to be on Manatee every night. While it is possible if you give scum more power, if someone claims vig without using it I would probably vote the vig for not shooting Not Mafia here.

It can’t be you because you would just vig if you didn’t get your way, you’re fighting too hard.

It can’t be me because I am not a vig.

So the only options at that point are Dwlee Salsa Not Mafia and Marci for a vig.
Unlikely Not Mafia because of play and just he doesn’t seem to care
So you’re down to two people you potentially see as a team together and Marci.

Odds are no vig exists.
Not sure why you're saying I'm ignoring geraintm's case on N_M, when I have acknowledged it already:
In post 1883, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Assuming you are town, can you not see what Salsa is doing today? Why would you want N_M over Salsa? In fact, for anyone who is voting N_M (geraintm I've seen your reasoning but feel free to add more regarding Salsa if you like), why do you want to eliminate N_M more than anyone else?
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If I'm wrong and one of you is not bussing N_M right now, then I'd be eliminating town 2 days straight and I dont want to eliminate rashly again considering I was wrong on Max.
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:52 pm

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N_M is not a liability. MathBlade is fearmongering around him. He cannot lolhammer anyone in MELO if we dont vote prematurely.
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:56 pm

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Looks like geraintm is normally active before deadline. Would Dwlee, Math, and Manatee vote Salsa with me and he can hammer in the morning?
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:01 pm

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In post 1984, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Looks like geraintm is normally active before deadline. Would Dwlee, Math, and Manatee vote Salsa with me and he can hammer in the morning?
I'd be ok w that
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:04 pm

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I'm okay killing Salsa because I think she has equity as an NM partner, but I'd still prefer to kill NM.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:06 pm

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I am not comfortable making a snap decision like that while civ game is starting.

It felt like you ignored G’s case Kyo.

I don’t townread Salsa if the votes went that way so I would hammer.
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:13 pm

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In post 1987, MathBlade wrote:I am not comfortable making a snap decision like that while civ game is starting.

It felt like you ignored G’s case Kyo.

I don’t townread Salsa if the votes went that way so I would hammer.
It also felt to me like you ignored my case on dwlee
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:22 pm

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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:24 pm

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I will write something up more verbose probably tomorrow if I can. This is an elite game and critical role + work tomorrow.

I just glazed over half way through most of your walls and just was like “So?” On like 90% if it. Felt like filler.
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:24 pm

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VOTE: Salsa
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:40 pm

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In post 1939, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Marci wya
:shifty: :shifty:
In post 1984, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Looks like geraintm is normally active before deadline. Would Dwlee, Math, and Manatee vote Salsa with me and he can hammer in the morning?
im so confused, y ru trying to get her elimmed now..? you've been trying for dwlee all day..?
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:50 pm

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I dont think dwlee is gonna happen and she's my second choice
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:51 pm

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wheres the votes at rn IM SCARED TO VOTE CUZ I DONT WANNA BY ACCIDENT HAMMER AGAIN-
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:22 pm

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UNVOTE: Dwlee

VOTE: Not_Mafia

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! no! one! is! at! E-1! so! you! can! vote! anyone! who! you! want!
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:25 pm

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But if you guys decide to eliminate me (at last! Yay!!), I want to hammer myself :D
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:33 pm

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Kill cow
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:45 am

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From my lizard brain:

Town!
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= Scum!
Dwlee
+ Scum!
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Scum!
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:23 am

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Alright, we got
something
out of Salsa/Marci toward the end at least. I still have the feeling this is going to flip town though.

VOTE: N_M
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