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[redtea]

i consistently post in giant unmissable blocks there is no excuse except laziness

Lazy is NAI

clearly

Not true. Town!me is usually passive and blurts things out meanwhile scum!me actively engages with discussions. Also, town!me often will skim over walls andnot respond to them.

uhuh

[Morning Tweet]

i dunno, we got T3 voting Farren (most likely elimination that might work), giving reads, going back and saying he made up the reasoning rather than not just outright saying he doesnt have reasoning, and some "scum!me doesn't do X" type stuff

I have never seen T3 completely make up reads. Have reads without elaboration, sure, but does town!T3 feel the need to make shit up..? Surely town!T3 doesn't give any fucks right?

And again it's just convenient his scumread happens to be Farren who gamestate-wise *could* be elimed if enough ppl sheeped Ich.

T3's best arguments for being town are that he would've sent me to Heaven if scum (???) and that he's more involved with discussion as scum. Oh and that he's lazy as town but not as scum??

Not true. Town!me is usually passive and blurts things out meanwhile scum!me actively engages with discussions. Also, town!me often will skim over walls andnot respond to them.

Are you using ignoring redtea's posts as proof you're in your town meta?!?! So in other words, if you were scum, you would read their posts but since you're town you just skimmed and forgot about them?

Is that your argument for you being town?

[flow trap]

i dunno, we got T3 voting Farren (most likely elimination that might work), giving reads, going back and saying he made up the reasoning rather than not just outright saying he doesnt have reasoning, and some "scum!me doesn't do X" type stuff

I have never seen T3 completely make up reads. Have reads without elaboration, sure, but does town!T3 feel the need to make shit up..? Surely town!T3 doesn't give any fucks right?

And again it's just convenient his scumread happens to be Farren who gamestate-wise *could* be elimed if enough ppl sheeped Ich.

T3's best arguments for being town are that he would've sent me to Heaven if scum (???) and that he's more involved with discussion as scum. Oh and that he's lazy as town but not as scum??

Not true. Town!me is usually passive and blurts things out meanwhile scum!me actively engages with discussions. Also, town!me often will skim over walls andnot respond to them.

Are you using ignoring redtea's posts as proof you're in your town meta?!?! So in other words, if you were scum, you would read their posts but since you're town you just skimmed and forgot about them?

Is that your argument for you being town?

Scum has more of an obligation due to their life being more important. I don't think T3 voting Farren is scummy either, I don't see the point of pushing someone who isn't viable, and it makes sense that

someone

would push the most viable one otherwise it wouldn't be the most viable. Tbh sometimes I make a read and forget why so I make up a reason that sounds like it could work only to remember later. I do agree that saying I don't do X as scum isn't a good argument though. Saying being bad at defending yourself could potentially fall under fallacy fallacy, so it would probably be better to focus on how they do what they do instead of what they do. The casual language and the short sentences are a good sign due to an unconscious bias when trying to appease someone to use "fancy text." They've already said they haven't made up reads, just "making up or greatly exaggerating reasons." To peruse this line of making up reads is likely misrepresenting what they meant.

[Morning Tweet]

PoE and also just not even doing much in the way of like... actual content.

This isn't an "exaggerated reason" though, no? This is just 100% made up

[flow trap]

Made up reason#Made up read

[ManateeDude]

Hell VC2.02

Released in 1981

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to send someone to Hell

T3 (2):

redtea, Dannflor

Farren (1):

T3

Not Voting:

Morning Tweet, flow trap, Esooa, Farren

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-08-08 22:30:00)

Mod Notes:

[T3]

i dunno, we got T3 voting Farren (most likely elimination that might work), giving reads, going back and saying he made up the reasoning rather than not just outright saying he doesnt have reasoning, and some "scum!me doesn't do X" type stuff

I have never seen T3 completely make up reads. Have reads without elaboration, sure, but does town!T3 feel the need to make shit up..? Surely town!T3 doesn't give any fucks right?

And again it's just convenient his scumread happens to be Farren who gamestate-wise *could* be elimed if enough ppl sheeped Ich.

T3's best arguments for being town are that he would've sent me to Heaven if scum (???) and that he's more involved with discussion as scum. Oh and that he's lazy as town but not as scum??

Not true. Town!me is usually passive and blurts things out meanwhile scum!me actively engages with discussions. Also, town!me often will skim over walls andnot respond to them.

Are you using ignoring redtea's posts as proof you're in your town meta?!?! So in other words, if you were scum, you would read their posts but since you're town you just skimmed and forgot about them?

Is that your argument for you being town?

Meh, I don't know.

[T3]

VOTE: T3
I messed up big time and if Farren is town then I'm getting shot and we lose.

[redtea]

making up reasons to supplement a gut read is only towny if there's some scumhunting strategy behind it, imo. Even then i don't think town does so so blatantly, except if they're new.
Whatever. What I wanna know is why flow trap is only bringing out the guns on what's effectively

d3

[redtea]

once again i wish we hadn't heavened ich
i suppose i only have myself to blame

[redtea]

UNVOTE:
well actually
fuck
why not hell farren then

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: T3
I messed up big time and if Farren is town then I'm getting shot and we lose.

how's that different from you eliminating yourself then town!Farren getting shot by Ich? Voting yourself doesnt solve the problem or do anything helpful, showing that you're town trying to solve does

[redtea]

tho ich might just as easily vote MT or esooa :/

[Morning Tweet]

UNVOTE:
well actually
fuck
why not hell farren then

Do you think there's a reasonable chance Farren is scum?

Otherwise I'm fine throwing out T3 and if he's town and Ich judgements town!Farren that's like 2 bad plays by town back to back (the first being all of T3's play)

Like I'm fine just throwing T3 out, this'd be a new low if he's town and I trust Ich will make the best decision they can... even if it's just doing Farren again. As long as they take some time to think about it and don't insta Farren than it's whatever

[redtea]

okay nah im being dumb
VOTE: T3

[Morning Tweet]

tho ich might just as easily vote MT or esooa :/

I think we just accept that Ich is going to be very hit-or-miss lul

Bottom line is I want T3 out no matter what and killing Farren first doesn't really help

Maybe seeing Farren!town makes Ich reeval but it'd probably be criminal to not throw out T3 still so idk

[Morning Tweet]

Intent to hammer

[Morning Tweet]

Out of curiosity, have you self-voted as town in the past T3 after giving up? That's typically something scum does when they give up, since it, ya know, still helps a scum wincon denying wagon info

[redtea]

UNVOTE:
well actually
fuck
why not hell farren then

Do you think there's a reasonable chance Farren is scum?

Otherwise I'm fine throwing out T3 and if he's town and Ich judgements town!Farren that's like 2 bad plays by town back to back (the first being all of T3's play)

Like I'm fine just throwing T3 out, this'd be a new low if he's town and I trust Ich will make the best decision they can... even if it's just doing Farren again. As long as they take some time to think about it and don't insta Farren than it's whatever

no, i dont lol
yeah okay. makes sense i guess.
would kind of want to see what farren has to say before we hammer tho

[flow trap]

VOTE: T3
I messed up big time and if Farren is town then I'm getting shot and we lose.

Don't self-vote

[Morning Tweet]

Made up reason#Made up read

I mean, sure, but you start to wonder why he felt the need to make up reads

[Morning Tweet]

Made up reason#Made up read

I mean, sure, but you start to wonder why he felt the need to make up

reads

reasoning

u know what i mean

Why give fake reasons in response to Farren asking for reasons rather than just say "Idk" (the latter of which is what id expect T3 to do a bit more, since that's the "IDGAF" type of play and not the "I'm self conscious" type)

he gave fake reasons because he was too "self conscious" to admit he didnt have much reasoning, so why does he seemingly feel more worried about how we perceive him than actually solving the game :?

[T3]

Out of curiosity, have you self-voted as town in the past T3 after giving up? That's typically something scum does when they give up, since it, ya know, still helps a scum wincon denying wagon info

Yes, Mini Normal 2205. I realized I was playing terribly and would be ELO limbait so I self voted when at E-2. My dying words were to vote scum!Anya but town didn't listen and we lost.

[Morning Tweet]

Out of curiosity, have you self-voted as town in the past T3 after giving up? That's typically something scum does when they give up, since it, ya know, still helps a scum wincon denying wagon info

Yes, Mini Normal 2205. I realized I was playing terribly and would be ELO limbait so I self voted when at E-2. My dying words were to vote scum!Anya but town didn't listen and we lost.

You.... voted yourself out on

day two

because you didn't want to be in Xylo.......?

In any case so you do self vote as town. I see that you tried to explain your scumread of Pooky as u died, so you seemingly didn't make up the reasoning for your reads.. you still had scumreads on at least Pooky/Anya and tried to push them. Here i think all you've done is sheep Ich on Farren as your strongest SR and make up stuff for the rest of the PoE

from a precursory skim of your ISO in that game you're not really quite the same although could be confbias i suppose

[Morning Tweet]

I kinda want to think about who is scum if T3 does happen to be town

Flow probably would be scum for whiteknighting so hard and voting with T3 onto Farren prolly. also making Farren more likely town

I'd guess Esooa scum in that case

Redtea and Farren i probably keep town

Then it's just Dann. Oh. That's the entire plist. So without T3 i'd guess flow/Dann/Esooa .....?

I should probably put a little more effort into figuring that out since I'm a little worried now seeing that T3 selfvotes as town and obviously T3 gets miselimed in every game he's town. Which isn't a valid defense or anything and i am certainly not seeing the things ive townread him for in the past, but ya kno, couldnt hurt