[MT2225] Chrono Trigger Chronicles - The Rise/Fall of Yakra

[House]

Even if Cyrus winds up flipping scum somewhere down the road, AW is town from those results.

[T3]

VOTE: dw

[Lukewarm]

If cyrus is telling the truth, we are almost in auto win.

Cyrus+House+AW+his clear for tomorrow (if he gets an inno) makes 4 cleared townie out of 10 players, and that is before we factor in any other pr claims.

That being said, I have changed my mind on the chrono counter claim for T3. I think that that should be done today, so we can put off dealing with Cyrus instead of putting off T3.

I doubt there is a chance for a cyrus counterclaim based on the flavor claim anyways.

So, if there is a Chrono out there, please counter claim T3

----

Putting a bulletproof on a cop seems like too much power, but should resolve itself given some time anyways

[Roden]

UNVOTE:

[House]

Putting a bulletproof on a cop seems like too much power, but should resolve itself given some time anyways

How, exactly?

[House]

I doubt there is a chance for a cyrus counterclaim based on the flavor claim anyways.

If there's an investigative, they *can* cc, but I'd wait a day or so.

I think Cyrus is bullshitting at least part of his claim to try to throw scum off, but there's a good chance he's a cop.

[Roden]

Whenever T3 naked votes I get bad vibes.

BP on a Cop makes sense balance wise if scum have a X-shot Strongman and/or a Roleblocker, and Yakra was an insanely strong role that just got caught early, so the game doesnt feel too town-sided.

[House]

Whenever T3 naked votes I get bad vibes.

BP on a Cop makes sense balance wise if scum have a X-shot Strongman and/or a Roleblocker, and Yakra was an insanely strong role that just got caught early, so the game doesnt feel too town-sided.

What all do you know about Yakra's role?

[House]

I think a scum strongman would have killed me n1, as I was a pretty obvious target for a protective.

[Titus]

Whenever T3 naked votes I get bad vibes.

BP on a Cop makes sense balance wise if scum have a X-shot Strongman and/or a Roleblocker, and Yakra was an insanely strong role that just got caught early, so the game doesnt feel too town-sided.

If RMH was a super strong role, then scum likely weren't bussing.

[Lukewarm]

Putting a bulletproof on a cop seems like too much power, but should resolve itself given some time anyways

How, exactly?

How is it too powerful, or how should it resolve itself?

It is too powerful because protect the cop is strong even when a doc does not know for sure who the cop is.

A self protecting cop is strong. Doubly so, because it really looks like we have a doc, because I don't see the scum team shooting Guillo night 1 given his accidental hammer, so much more likely that the doc saved you night 1.

If we do have a doc + a bp cop, that cop will get way too many results no matter what the scum team does. Like, even if they play it perfectly and shoot the doc night 1, shoot the Cop night 2, and then shoot the cop again night 3, that is a guaranteed 2 results from the cop

---

It will resolve itself, because the scum team can never leave a cop alive for through to Elo, that is a loss.

So, either, he is resolved by the scum team OR, if he is alive the day before elo, we kill him and if he flips scum, it is resolved. If he flips town, his results should win the game

[House]

Whenever T3 naked votes I get bad vibes.

BP on a Cop makes sense balance wise if scum have a X-shot Strongman and/or a Roleblocker, and Yakra was an insanely strong role that just got caught early, so the game doesnt feel too town-sided.

If RMH was a super strong role, then scum likely weren't bussing.

I mean, he WAS the title character for the game, so that's something I guess.

I have no clue what his abilities were outside of vote shenanigans, though.

[House]

It will resolve itself, because the scum team can never leave a cop alive for through to Elo, that is a loss.

If he's bulletproof, how do you expect them to kill him?

[House]

I honestly think Cyrus is lying about being bulletproof.

[Roden]

Whenever T3 naked votes I get bad vibes.

BP on a Cop makes sense balance wise if scum have a X-shot Strongman and/or a Roleblocker, and Yakra was an insanely strong role that just got caught early, so the game doesnt feel too town-sided.

What all do you know about Yakra's role?

Yakra seemed to be the vote stealer. It should've been stronger but it got wasted, it had very little impact and instead exposed RMH as scum. They could've used it to hammer a townie but just, didn't. So it either had specific rules or it got misused, and I think it's more likely it just got misused. Scum in general seem to barely be making an impact during the day as is so I'm fairly certain they just don't know what to do or how to use their roles.

[Lukewarm]

It will resolve itself, because the scum team can never leave a cop alive for through to Elo, that is a loss.

If he's bulletproof, how do you expect them to kill him?

If they want to win, they would have to shoot him twice

[Roden]

I think a scum strongman would have killed me n1, as I was a pretty obvious target for a protective.

This is a good point actually. Yeah that rules out Strongman, Roleblocker should be still be on the table then.

[Lukewarm]

I think Cyrus should be allowed to live off that claim. If he checks Roden, turbo lim him. Anyone else, he's shortening the lim pool. He can be leashed too.

I think I would want to leash him to be between me and you (Titus) personally.

Anyone have other preferences?

[House]

I think Cyrus should be allowed to live off that claim. If he checks Roden, turbo lim him. Anyone else, he's shortening the lim pool. He can be leashed too.

I think I would want to leash him to be between me and you (Titus) personally.

Anyone have other preferences?

Nah, I'm good with him checking anyone aside from Roden.

[Roden]

The room buzzed. Accusations flew. Somehow needles appeared in some members backs, weakening them and changing their voice.

I fucked up the coding but, this implies that there was more to Yakra's abilities than just vote stealing. I just don't know what.

[House]

It will resolve itself, because the scum team can never leave a cop alive for through to Elo, that is a loss.

If he's bulletproof, how do you expect them to kill him?

If they want to win, they would have to shoot him twice

He didn't say x-shot.

[House]

The room buzzed. Accusations flew. Somehow needles appeared in some members backs, weakening them and changing their voice.

I fucked up the coding but, this implies that there was more to Yakra's abilities than just vote stealing. I just don't know what.

"weakening them and changing their voice" could be the vote steal flavor.

"You're vote is your voice."

[House]

The room buzzed. Accusations flew. Somehow needles appeared in some members backs, weakening them and changing their voice.

I fucked up the coding but, this implies that there was more to Yakra's abilities than just vote stealing. I just don't know what.

"weakening them and changing their voice" could be the vote steal flavor.

"Your* vote is your voice."

[Lukewarm]

I actually doubt that a cop cyrus doesn't investigate me last night.

In our only game together I had a pretty flawless scum game, and this is even what he said about it this day phase

Spoiler:

btw i nominate lw for scummy of the year very good scum player he is.

[House]

I actually doubt that a cop cyrus doesn't investigate me last night.

In our only game together I had a pretty flawless scum game, and this is even what he said about it this day phase

Spoiler:

btw i nominate lw for scummy of the year very good scum player he is.

Honestly, I'm kinda surprised he didn't target dwlee.

He's always sus of him and constantly complimenting his scum game too.