[MT2225] Chrono Trigger Chronicles - The Rise/Fall of Yakra

[House]

I really, really wanted Mara to be scum, but... lolno.

[House]

If nobody CC's T3... it has to be one of AW or Roden??

Ew.

[Roden]

For the record I don't think Titus is scum this game. She hasn't tried to look for town points, and I don't think she'd ever let RMH do anything he did on Day 2.

I don't trust Luke because he kept trying to look for town cred Day 1 and 2, and he's playing very cautiously and defensively right now. Pretty sure we just catch scum if we bum rush whoever's trying too hard to be careful.

If Gamma’s vote has been in fact stolen, im locking him town.

VOTE: Dwlee99

Well this is completely incongruent

What is incongruent? Have i ever said that i dont scum read you?

Gamma having his vote stolen = lock town

Droo voting me = scum WIFOM

Fixing my last post

Third time is the charm?

Ok. What is incongruent about it?

If Gamna’s vote was stolen last night, he is lock town for having his vote stolen, that is definitely a scum ability.

This same scum ability could very well place that vote on anyone, including their own to WIFOM us into changing our reads. By the way the Droo vote has been used, it tells me that most likely the votes on you and Robert are WIFOM and that you both are scum, because there is no way scum are so incompetent to waste such a powerful action and not secretly hammer a target at L-1 and instead vote you guys the way they did.

The other option is they are doing it to feed my paranoia of you and Robert, but again, why waste that action to fool just me.

I dont buy it. I need you dead to find out.

Guillo's ISO hits different with Marashu's case in mind. It sounds like he's low key flaming his buddies for fucking up the DROO vote. He also kept pushing for RMH/Dwlee/Gamma associatives but then wanted Dwlee gone towards EoD. Cyrus never switched to voting RMH when he replaced in and kept his vote on Dwlee. He also claimed to be Gaspar lol, so yeah I'm convinced this is a solved game at this point.

I'd love to be right about my original read on Dwlee but I think they just sheeped scum this game. The buddying with RMH is really obvious otherwise.

I'm gonna double down on all of this now.

[Roden]

Uh, minus the Luke part obviously.

[cyrus62]

Luke didn't exactly do anything but kept poking .

You had weaseled yourself out of the noose, at least temporarily.

He poked you back into it.

I didn't read the game fully enough if I had I would have seen the soft guilty. If I had I would have left gamma alive. But I still only rolled scum once . I did replace in to it.

[cyrus62]

Any way can we make this go faster so I can self hammer

[cyrus62]

Still that role would have been sweet bullet prof insane cop.

[Roden]

If nobody CC's T3... it has to be one of AW or Roden??

Ew.

I feel like I've proven myself as town by this point, and should be ruled out due to my flavor knowledge backing up two scum elims. But tbh if it's guaranteed that we don't have a deep wolf then I don't really have a problem getting mis-elim'd here. Because if there is one I'll probably throw if I somehow make it to ELo, and if there isn't and the PoE is just me and AW then I still win if I go out before her.

[Roden]

Any way can we make this go faster so I can self hammer

We're waiting for everyone to chime in first, Mastina hasn't even had a chance to post yet.

[Roden]

If T3 told the truth and can Vig/let Frog Vig, then either AW or I need to be targeted tonight.

[House]

If nobody CC's T3... it has to be one of AW or Roden??

Ew.

I feel like I've proven myself as town by this point, and should be ruled out due to my flavor knowledge backing up two scum elims. But tbh if it's guaranteed that we don't have a deep wolf then I don't really have a problem getting mis-elim'd here. Because if there is one I'll probably throw if I somehow make it to ELo, and if there isn't and the PoE is just me and AW then I still win if I go out before her.

I'd paranoia-lim AW over you, but that's a problem for another day.

[House]

When I first started angling for "partners", I figured Titus would be the most likely of the two to be scum.

Huh.

[House]

Also I'm guessing that House is confirmed now? Cause I'm assuming that's who got shot

huh? house claimed bodyguard. that's not how bodyguard works. this sounds like a scum claim

-nronornronror

Would scum!not derp this?

I feel like she probably wouldn't.

Gah.

[House]

Also I'm guessing that House is confirmed now? Cause I'm assuming that's who got shot

huh? house claimed bodyguard. that's not how bodyguard works. this sounds like a scum claim

-nronornronror

Would scum!nor* derp this?

I feel like she probably wouldn't.

Gah.

[Titus]

VOTE: cyrus

I'll let the bodies solve the rest.

[House]

After much thought, I'm basically certain that {roden, robert, dwlee} has at least 2 scum.

-nornor

What makes your townreads on the other people in the game this strong?

The aren't actually but that is my poe at the moment. given how united(hard to explain but its a vibe) this town feels to me, I think the poe is correct.

we're not united and its hard to explain the feeling. but its this feeling of finding people correctly. that feeling I've only felt once before when I was reading over a game that I wanted to rep into. I figured out who the last scum was immediately because of this feeling of finding/unity/hard to explain vibes

-bearnornor

Okay, can rate your townreads in order of confidence? I want to see where my gut matches your reads.

sure!

From towniest to least towny:
No touch zone:
House
Titus
Guillotina
Towny:
Gamma
Lukewarm
T3
Mastina
Marashu
Scum by poe: You, Dwlee
Scum:
Roden
Robert

Otoh, I have doubts that town! AW would make it this obvious that they were Mason reading Titus (Guillo obviously wasn't my partner).

She could do that as scum, because they control the NK.

[Roden]

I think it'd be wild if scum!AW really did hard defend her scum buddy Guillo at the beginning of the game.

[House]

Actually, it was Dwlee that started the poking, with Lukewarm chiming in after it became obvious that shit was rolling downhill.

[Roden]

Vote Count 1.9

Roden

(1)

:

Angel Warriors

Robert M Hunter

(5)

:

Gamma Emerald - House - T3 - Titus - ssbm_Kyouko

mastina

(1)

:

Guillotina

T3

(1)

:

Lukewarm

ssbm_Kyouko

(2)

:

Robert M Hunter - mastina

Guillotina

(1)

:

Roden

Not Voting

(2)

:

Dwlee - Marashu

With 13 players in the game, 7 are required to Yeet unto the Eternal Void .

Deadline for voiding is in (expired on 2021-08-09 08:31:06)

Mod Notes

Marashu is V/LA.
Lukewarm is V/LA

Pronouns

T3- He/Him
Angel Warriors - They/Them
Roden - He/Him
ssbm_Kyouko - She/Her
Marashu - He/Him
Guillotina - He/Him
Lukewarm - He/Him
Robert M Hunter - He/Him
House - He/Him
mastina - She/Her
Titus - She/Her
Gamma Emerald - He/Him
Dwlee99 - They/Them

Vote Count 1.10

Robert M Hunter

(4)

:

Angel Warriors - Gamma Emerald - T3 - ssbm_Kyouko

mastina

(1)

:

Guillotina

Dwlee99

(1)

:

House

T3

(1)

:

Lukewarm

ssbm_Kyouko

(2)

:

Robert M Hunter - mastina

Guillotina

(1)

:

Roden

Not Voting

(3)

:

Dwlee99 - Marashu - Titus

With 13 players in the game, 7 are required to Yeet unto the Eternal Void .

Deadline for voiding is in (expired on 2021-08-09 08:31:06)

Mod Notes

Marashu is V/LA.
Lukewarm is V/LA

Pronouns

T3- He/Him
Angel Warriors - They/Them
Roden - He/Him
ssbm_Kyouko - She/Her
Marashu - He/Him
Guillotina - He/Him
Lukewarm - He/Him
Robert M Hunter - He/Him
House - He/Him
mastina - She/Her
Titus - She/Her
Gamma Emerald - He/Him
Dwlee99 - They/Them

Vote Count 1.Final

Robert M Hunter

(1)

:

Angel Warriors

ssbm_Kyouko

(7)

:

Robert M Hunter - mastina - Marashu - House - Gamma Emerald - T3 - Guillotina

Roden

(1)

:

ssbm_Kyouko

Titus

(1)

:

Dwlee99

Angel Warriors

(1)

:

Roden

Not Voting

(2)

:

Titus - Lukewarm

With 13 players in the game, 7 are required to Yeet unto the Eternal Void .

Voiding achieved with 10 days, 21 hours remaining.

Mod Notes

Marashu is V/LA.
Lukewarm is V/LA

Pronouns

T3- He/Him
Angel Warriors - They/Them
Roden - He/Him
ssbm_Kyouko - She/Her
Marashu - He/Him
Guillotina - He/Him
Lukewarm - He/Him
Robert M Hunter - He/Him
House - He/Him
mastina - She/Her
Titus - She/Her
Gamma Emerald - He/Him
Dwlee99 - They/Them

She even wanted RMH out...She got on his wagon around the same time House and Titus were leaving it.

[House]

After all of this:

Spoiler:

What does Yakra do and yes I know it should be powerful but that doesn't explain what the things town would have to match it because everything flips without role pm

Also, fucking hell, who puts in a cop when the town has 3 confirmed people on flavor, and apparently there is a protective role, a public vigilante shot, things for more vigilante shots, etc. in the game AND gamma was basically claiming a guilty on Guillotina.

Cyrus, how many shots do you have?

Scum!cyrus calls people null, lean town, scum lean etc. meanwhile town!cyrus almost NEVER.does this. cyrus also does a dumb way of coding ONLY if he is town. cyrus is absolutely town and should never ever ever be voted.

Also given you've explained this in multiple games with Cyrus at this point maybe he has figured out how to vary his play enough? If he didn't it might as well be a trust tell.

Cyrus, how many shots do you have?

Maybe because he doesn't want to have to claim a result on me when either he lowers the poe pool or gets put into a 1v1 on claiming a guilty?

Cyrus, how many shots do you have?

Shit I mis read my role pm. It saids my sanity is to be questioned what does this mean?

Cyrus, how many shots do you have?

Shit I mis read my role pm. It saids my sanity is to be questioned what does this mean?

How many shots so you have? How many times can you use your role?

Cyrus do you have mana

Or MP? Whatever t3 said it was.

MP that lasts until Cyrus dies?

Who is Cyrus?

This happened:

yes lots of mp that last until Cyrus dies.

It seems my role centers around t3 as well.

T3 is not longer claiming to by Cyrus. Are you saying that your role pm explicitly says that the character cyrus is in the game?

And then T3 fake claimed cyrus? And no one counter claimed? And now T3 has stopped claiming cyrus?

So yeah... -town points for Luke for poking Cyrus.

[House]

No I didn't.

I'm Mason JoaT. Partner is BG.

N1 action was commute. Partner protected {not me}.

Kinda wish you didn't clarify here :/

Pretty sure scum knew my claim, whether they believed it or not, so I have no idea what he was trying to do here.

[House]

Robert, thanks for making the game a lot easier

Now I'm tinfoiling that this post was dripping with sarcasm, lol.

[House]

Your claim both 1v1s with me and 1v1s with house.

So we always flip you first.

I am happy to accept the 1v1 lol

Trying to tie me into this was super scummy, which is why I quickly locked him into denying Robert's claims and dropped my gambit.

[House]

It will resolve itself, because the scum team can never leave a cop alive for through to Elo, that is a loss.

If he's bulletproof, how do you expect them to kill him?

If they want to win, they would have to shoot him twice

And "scum having to shoot a powerful investigative role multiple times" didn't raise a thousand red flags with Luke?

[House]

After all of this:

Spoiler:

What does Yakra do and yes I know it should be powerful but that doesn't explain what the things town would have to match it because everything flips without role pm

Also, fucking hell, who puts in a cop when the town has 3 confirmed people on flavor, and apparently there is a protective role, a public vigilante shot, things for more vigilante shots, etc. in the game AND gamma was basically claiming a guilty on Guillotina.

Cyrus, how many shots do you have?

Scum!cyrus calls people null, lean town, scum lean etc. meanwhile town!cyrus almost NEVER.does this. cyrus also does a dumb way of coding ONLY if he is town. cyrus is absolutely town and should never ever ever be voted.

Also given you've explained this in multiple games with Cyrus at this point maybe he has figured out how to vary his play enough? If he didn't it might as well be a trust tell.

Cyrus, how many shots do you have?

Maybe because he doesn't want to have to claim a result on me when either he lowers the poe pool or gets put into a 1v1 on claiming a guilty?

Cyrus, how many shots do you have?

Shit I mis read my role pm. It saids my sanity is to be questioned what does this mean?

Cyrus, how many shots do you have?

Shit I mis read my role pm. It saids my sanity is to be questioned what does this mean?

How many shots so you have? How many times can you use your role?

Cyrus do you have mana

Or MP? Whatever t3 said it was.

MP that lasts until Cyrus dies?

Who is Cyrus?

This happened:

yes lots of mp that last until Cyrus dies.

It seems my role centers around t3 as well.

T3 is not longer claiming to by Cyrus. Are you saying that your role pm explicitly says that the character cyrus is in the game?

And then T3 fake claimed cyrus? And no one counter claimed? And now T3 has stopped claiming cyrus?

So yeah... -town points for Luke for poking Cyrus.

Ignore this, Lukewarm started his poking at 2004.