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[Dragon of the West]

I'm panicking that you already figured out the scum team

VOTE: Roden

Nero associative?

Bad fake scum hunting?

Pressure on T3 isn't a bad idea, but he's more likely to sort himself for us. If he's scum he'll likely out himself the longer the game goes on, and he's likely to form incriminating associatives as well.

Can't say I'm good at actually reading him, but I've played enough games with him that I kinda know his meta. It's generally detrimental to scum to keep him around regardless of his alignment.

You're suggesting that "the longer the game goes on, and he's likely to form incriminating associatives" is a characteristic of T3 and not every player out there, so we should give T3 special treatment - only pressure, but

not eliminate

?

I'll figure out what this all means as soon as I finish scraping my brain matter from the walls.

I'll be using a system I have used in other games in this game. I believe Norweigh is familiar with it since I used it in a game we played together.

LOCKTOWN

TMI?

I'm gunna veto this, but still read it as Townie.

Scum?

BUDDIES?

These are the only 3 posts of relevance to the game they posted and they only voiced any kind of reasoning in 1 of them. The other 2 are just observations voiced in a way to spread suspicion.

I'll buy its their playstyle since they seem at least alert in the game. Still a scumlean at least in my book for now tohugh.

Accusatory DGB is just DGB

[CheekyTeeky]

What game was that,kiwi?

Dammit now I have to go through every thread. Please allow some time for me to get some motivation to do this.

[MegAzumarill]

Well I feel ignored.

Just wanted to let the new player give fresh reads of relatively undiscussed slots that are active but whatever.

See if Nero actually has some good points against cheeky here before piling on them though.

DoTW give thoughts on some more slots please.

[Nero Cain]

Lq u r so bad man. I swear You've scum read me every game and I've been scum in none of them

[Dragon of the West]

Dragon of the West, when you've read up on the game could you give your thoughts?
Would love to hear your thoughts about Cheeky/Lickity in particular.

Cheeky I'm null, I have LQ as a scumread

[LicketyQuickety]

I mean, people's scum play can just be them doing their best to mimic their town play. In that scenario, meta means nothing beyond knowing how the person usually talks/reacts to things. But that's not something the person can teach you via self-meta

Lurking through pressure is a Scum tell.

[LicketyQuickety]

Cheeky I'm null, I have LQ as a scumread

LOL. Try it buddy.

[Dragon of the West]

Some of LQs questions have really seemed like the answers wouldn't provide any value to town. And the one asking "can someone explain this wagon" pinged me. I think I recently I saw scum ask that same thing about a wagon on a scum partner

[CheekyTeeky]

Nero is scum here, as town he's much more aggressive. Here he's just passive and wishywashy.

[LicketyQuickety]

See if Nero actually has some good points against cheeky here before piling on them though.

He won't and it will turn out horrible if they are both Town.

[MegAzumarill]

I mean, people's scum play can just be them doing their best to mimic their town play. In that scenario, meta means nothing beyond knowing how the person usually talks/reacts to things. But that's not something the person can teach you via self-meta

Lurking through pressure is a Scum tell.

Not particularly relevant but I've seen town T3 just ignore points against them if they think they lack substance, so them lurking through it wouldn't lock them as scum for me.

Spoiler:

Sample size of playing with T3=1 game

[Nero Cain]

Meager are you saying that u want to pile on me or that u want to vote cheeky? If it's me y r u scum reading me, if it's cheeky was are u being hesitant to vote there

[DrippingGoofball]

Urge to vote Nero rising...

Chicken scum.

[Nero Cain]

Meager =mega

[Dragon of the West]

Well I feel ignored.

Just wanted to let the new player give fresh reads of relatively undiscussed slots that are active but whatever.

See if Nero actually has some good points against cheeky here before piling on them though.

DoTW give thoughts on some more slots please.

I catch up on posts in order and post as I read; just because I'm posting doesn't mean I've read the most recent posts. Tbh, I just completely ignore doing pedits

[Nero Cain]

I'd policy eliminate lq but I'm not so sure he's scum. Tell me y he is.

[LicketyQuickety]

Spoiler:

I'll be using a system I have used in other games in this game. I believe Norweigh is familiar with it since I used it in a game we played together.

LOCKTOWN

TMI?

I'll be using a system I have used in other games in this game. I believe Norweigh is familiar with it since I used it in a game we played together.

LOCKTOWN

TMI?

Rejected....

I don't believe I have played with you. Would you mind telling me the differences between your Town and Scum Meta?

I'm gunna veto this, but still read it as Townie.

Scum?

How serious was your first post?

VOTE: NorwegianBoyEE
Srs vote.

Why?

Nero Cain you're acting suspiciously absently and non-presency. Looks like you're scum by meta.
VOTE: Nero Cain

That's an surprising amount of sense you're making Quick.

That was stream of consciousness.

Can’t say i remember much of your "systems"
But maybe if i witness it i’ll refresh that memory.

Scum posting.

Can we vote T3 instead? I think I have just as much if not more reason to vote there.

Locktown rescinded.

How exactly does the "LOCK" in LOCKTOWN work?

Was calculating numbers for another game. What did I miss?

Yeah 121 is bad. PoE probably the best way to sort their slot.

Isn't that generally just how Town ends up winning most of that time? Re:PoE?

Nero/LQ/Norwee?

LOL. Is that supposed to be rule of 3 or something?

where did Norweigh go anyways?

These are all the questions I have asked. They are mostly jokes or rhetorical, lol.

The serious questions were 32, 38, 50, 54.

If you have a question about the questions I've asked, fire away! Else, don't assume.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm liking Dragon of the West for town.

[MegAzumarill]

Meager are you saying that u want to pile on me or that u want to vote cheeky? If it's me y r u scum reading me, if it's cheeky was are u being hesitant to vote there

I'm saying to refrain from it for now. I don't find your behavior all that AI, so I would like to sort you with your arguement. I feel if you end up being a large wagon it will skew the reads either way. I'd put Cheeky at a townlean at the moment.

I'm letting you give your arguement before picking a side, though I admit odds don't seem in your favor.

[Dragon of the West]

I mean, people's scum play can just be them doing their best to mimic their town play. In that scenario, meta means nothing beyond knowing how the person usually talks/reacts to things. But that's not something the person can teach you via self-meta

Lurking through pressure is a Scum tell.

Not particularly relevant but I've seen town T3 just ignore points against them if they think they lack substance, so them lurking through it wouldn't lock them as scum for me.

Spoiler:

Sample size of playing with T3=1 game

I've played with T3 twice (we were both town in each game) and if anything T3 actually responding to posts against him and getting defensive would seen scummy to me

[Nero Cain]

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm sorta low key TRing Nero at this point, but don't tell anyone, especially Nero.

[MegAzumarill]

I mean, people's scum play can just be them doing their best to mimic their town play. In that scenario, meta means nothing beyond knowing how the person usually talks/reacts to things. But that's not something the person can teach you via self-meta

Lurking through pressure is a Scum tell.

Not particularly relevant but I've seen town T3 just ignore points against them if they think they lack substance, so them lurking through it wouldn't lock them as scum for me.

Spoiler:

Sample size of playing with T3=1 game

I've played with T3 twice (we were both town in each game) and if anything T3 actually responding to posts against him and getting defensive would seen scummy to me

Sample size is now at 3! Accepting admissions of T3 ignoring being questioned now. (don't actually)

[T3]

Pressure on T3 isn't a bad idea, but he's more likely to sort himself for us. If he's scum he'll likely out himself the longer the game goes on, and he's likely to form incriminating associatives as well.

Can't say I'm good at actually reading him, but I've played enough games with him that I kinda know his meta. It's generally detrimental to scum to keep him around regardless of his alignment.

You're suggesting that "the longer the game goes on, and he's likely to form incriminating associatives" is a characteristic of T3 and not every player out there, so we should give T3 special treatment - only pressure, but

not eliminate

?

I'll figure out what this all means as soon as I finish scraping my brain matter from the walls.

I mean this in a positive way, but T3 is not like every player out there. You should know this from Deco alone.

Hey Shrek what's roden saying in y'all's scum pt?

I'm panicking that you already figured out the scum team and Shrek is posting All Star lyrics.

Win=wants it more.

Ah, never would've guessed that tbh.

real talk though i should actually change my name because its annoying af having people assume that i like shrek right out the gate just cause thats my name

it was literally 5 years ago when i was 15 and dumb cut me some slack yo

:shrekConfused:

[Almost50]

Spoiler: A collection of Page One quotes

do you guys think this setup is multiball?

VOTE: T3

I noticed that the site meta has changed over time.

It used to be that power roles were helpful to the town, and that claims helped solve the game. This is no longer true.

I just finished playing Sybil's Elegy which was a great example of the role distribution being designed to confuse at best, and F up at worse, the town. I have played others with similar anti-town mod shenanigans.

Here's the deal.

We should not claim, ever.

Treating the game as mountainous will increase our chances of winning.

What we should do (and I include vanilla townies) is to crumb our night choices somehow BEFORE the night. Vanilla townies must crumb fake targets.

When you're dead, and we know your role and alignment, we can go back and use the crumbs for the solve.

Solving games by way of RESULTS and CLAIMED ROLES will not work. It just doesn't work anymore.

VOTE: DGB

VOTE: T3

What's today's fake claim?

VOTE: T3

What's today's fake claim?

2-shot Follower, of course.

do you guys think this setup is multiball?

VOTE: T3

Can it still be serial killers though?

And with that i claim serial killer.

Nero Cain you're acting suspiciously absently and non-presency. Looks like you're scum by meta.
VOTE: Nero Cain

Spoiler: My response to each and every one of them