Newbie 2074 | Game Over

[Ythan]

Trapped in a nightmare universe where Dann keeps going down and Val keeps going up.

[Dannflor]

holy shit val think about your posts if you're town

what possible reason could speculating about the setup be bad considering scum know what world we're in?

[Dannflor]

it actually might just be ythan here but I'll deal with that tomorrow

[Val89]

what possible reason could speculating about the setup be bad considering scum know what world we're in?

Exactly my point; and yet you are telling us to shut up, because we will give information away that scum already know...

[Dannflor]

no...

there's an answer

that was not a rhetorical question

[Nahdia]

Vote Count 2.04

Now playing... Diet Cig

Gamma Emerald (4):

Leaven, Dannflor, StrangeMatter, Gamma Emerald

StrangeMatter (1):

Dannflor

, cowsloveSushirolls

Leaven (1):

StrangeMatter

,

Gamma Emerald

, Ythan

Ythan (0):

Val89

Not Voting (1):

Ythan

Deadline is in

(expired on 2021-08-06 10:00:00)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With seven players alive, it takes

four

to reach majority.

Note:

Warblgarbl.

[Nahdia]

Gamma Emerald has been eliminated. He was a

mafia goon

.

[Nahdia]

✧･ﾟ: *☾ It is now Night 2 (◡‿◡✿) ༓･ﾟ:*‧͙⁺˚
Rest up and get ready for another day!
Don't forget to submit your night actions via PM or factional private topic.

(expired on 2021-08-08 01:40:00)...

[Nahdia]

cowsloveSushirolls has been killed. He was a

vanilla townie

.

[Nahdia]

Vote Count 3.00

Now playing... Mother Mother

Not Voting (5):

StrangeMatter, Leaven, Val89, Dannflor, Ythan

Deadline is in

(expired on 2021-08-15 01:45:00)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With five players alive, it takes

three

to reach majority.

Note:

Nothin'.

[Ythan]

Morning friends.

[StrangeMatter]

Good morning.

Just want to confirm something, Leaven what did you get for your results?

[StrangeMatter]

Actually who am I kidding, it's probably A1 and they RBed Leaven and went to try to get rid of the Doctor.

[StrangeMatter]

Speaking of which, wouldn't claiming PR at this point of the game be better than staying silent?

[Ythan]

Explain yourself.

[StrangeMatter]

I read the count wrong, but here's what I thought.

With Leaven being confirmed, scum would be down to me, Ythan, Dann, and Val84. If there is a second PR, that would leave 3 out of the 5 people left. Another point is that it's a 1v4 at this point of the game. We can mess up once, and can use that to our advantage. To me this would make claiming PRs as scum basically impossible if the PRs are competent enough to know fake claims. And if they call out a fakeclaim from scum, we can theoretically just vote both of them out if both claim. Also, from my perspective, the game would be solved already since the last two remaining has scum and town in it.

[Ythan]

That's wrong. No claim.

[Ythan]

If there is a doctor and they claim then we'll eliminate among the remaining three and the doctor will be killed tonight leaving Leaven and two unconfirmed players.

[StrangeMatter]

I'd rather have a chance to win in 1/3 with two conf and later 1/2 with one confirmed right now than just a 1/4 to get it right and a 1/2 to get this right.

[StrangeMatter]

If there is a doctor and they claim then we'll eliminate among the remaining three and the doctor will be killed tonight leaving Leaven and two unconfirmed players.

Also, can you give me a good reason as to why not claiming is better and why I'm wrong?

[Ythan]

I'd rather have a chance to win in 1/3 with two conf and later 1/2 with one confirmed right now than just a 1/4 to get it right and a 1/2 to get this right.

If a doctor gets run up today they claim then just like Leaven did. Only scum is advantaged by claiming before that.

If there is a doctor and they claim then we'll eliminate among the remaining three and the doctor will be killed tonight leaving Leaven and two unconfirmed players.

Also, can you give me a good reason as to why not claiming is better and why I'm wrong?

For the first, what I said above and also what I said previously that you have not successfully refuted at all. For the second, because everything you're saying is foolishness or intentional deceit that offers nothing of benefit to the town.

[Ythan]

no I'll wait until tomorrow

if I die I die

Not forgetting this.

[Leaven]

I did get blocked last night.

[StrangeMatter]

For the first, what I said above and also what I said previously that you have not successfully refuted at all. For the second, because everything you're saying is foolishness or intentional deceit that

offers nothing of benefit to the town.

I'm not going to refute what you've said about scum killing doctor if they claim. However, offering nothing to the benefit of the town is not correct. The point of this was Process of Elimination, which in turn means VTs would have only two people to eliminate. Scum obviously has to get the blame onto the other two slots in a row as well.

So if you just don't agree and say it's foolish or decitful, then fine. I'll just bite my tongue and never share ideas like this again.

[Ythan]

If a doctor gets run up today they claim then just like Leaven did. Only scum is advantaged by claiming before that.

^This!!!^

Why claim before that?