mini normal 2226; who won

[Aristeia]

Like when we play together usually you express some kind of paranoia/fear of me but here you're just like "I don't really care this is fine"

[Titus]

Well, that's not quite true. It should read that I don't see the circumstances where I'd vote Gamma ever happening.

[Titus]

Premise A: (Secret premise)
If Premise A is true then scum likely think Premise A is true and therefore would vote Umlaut.
If Premise A is not true then scum likely think they may get a free elim by hopping on without discussion like everyone else.

If Premise A is true, that doesn't mean everyone sees or knows the premise to be true. It's happened before recently, supposing I am correct on Premise A. If there's a split on whether Premise A is true, expect one scum to bus and the other to hope for momentum elsewhere.

[Titus]

Regardless I think a scum in Chaos, Datisi, Gamma, and Titus is quite high regardless of which explanation I go down.

Ok, cries, bawls angry tears, depressed

[Titus]

To those of you who are that sure Umlaut is scum, why not go look back and see what was scummy D1?

Umlaut not voting D1 was scummy to me. See end D1, Large normal 234 which just ended (I guiltied a scum based on not voting).

I also sheep Gamma.

[Titus]

Datisi are you informed that I'm town for some reason?

Because it's really weird for me to experience no paranoia/doubt from you when we just killed a town player on D1 and I was one of the more vocal people killing Meg.

Reluctant hug

[MathBlade]

Not a fan of 1303. Just because her top townread of Gamma is on it she thinks the whole wagon is town and is balling angry tears? This seems over exaggerated.

I am going read Luke’s case now bbl.

[Titus]

Not a fan of 1303. Just because her top townread of Gamma is on it she thinks the whole wagon is town and is balling angry tears? This seems over exaggerated.

I am going read Luke’s case now bbl.

[Titus]

1303 was my reaction to you FoSing each slot. Not a defense of Chaos just the other two.

[MathBlade]

Just skimmed Ari’s meta on the normal game first. (Yeah it looked simpler sue me)

VOTE: Chaos

Based on what I see there I am okay sheeping Ari while reading up Luke’s case

[Titus]

Just skimmed Ari’s meta on the normal game first. (Yeah it looked simpler sue me)

VOTE: Chaos

Based on what I see there I am okay sheeping Ari while reading up Luke’s case

*sads* Just because Ari is town doesn't mean Ari deserves a sheep given Ari was wrong yesterday. She might be right today but I trust Gamma's reads more and trust him to be town more.

[Aristeia]

I don't particularly have any reason to think Chaos definitely flips scum here.

I am voting for Chaos because the case for Chaos makes more sense to me than the case for Umlaut because nobody's even presented anything for Umlaut and Datisi scares me rn :<

[Titus]

I don't particularly have any reason to think Chaos definitely flips scum here.

I am voting for Chaos because the case for Chaos makes more sense to me than the case for Umlaut because nobody's even presented anything for Umlaut and Datisi scares me rn :<

*sad*

I presented Umlaut is scum because he wasn't voting yesterday and I caught scum doing that very recently. It's also why I FoSed him day 1.

[MathBlade]

it was pretty obvious that t3 was trying to get out of having to say something about mech and i'm hmm at alchemist trying to force the issue >_>

i still wanna see the wall on my meta, though.

T3 clearly wasn’t saying anything mech related here. I think if Dat is scum then Alch is probably town.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: gamma

why is aristeia town?

Explain this vote please. I think this is probably the most damning point in the readwall. You seem to be okay with Gamma voting Umlaut now.

[Titus]

VOTE: gamma

why is aristeia town?

Explain this vote please. I think this is probably the most damning point in the readwall. You seem to be okay with Gamma voting Umlaut now.

It's a thousand posts later....

[Alchemist21]

am i insane for thinking there is something Very Wrong about the fact that luke spent a lot of time yesterday pushing omega, then once he realized that's not happening, he was suddenly a firm believer in meg flipping red, brute forced the wagon through, then the person whose literally only strong read was "datisi is locktown" is dead, and *then* luke is back on omega while making a convoluted case on why i'm a partner when that case is half made up of literal lies and empty assumptions?

I don’t see why scumLuke does this unless they’re trying really hard to bus Chaos and think they can get a universal Townread destroyed out of it.

Also Luke got cold feet about Chaos after people started joining that wagon and it became more viable, so “realizing it wasn’t gonna happen” is an incorrect assessment.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: gamma

why is aristeia town?

Explain this vote please. I think this is probably the most damning point in the readwall. You seem to be okay with Gamma voting Umlaut now.

It's a thousand posts later....

Then the explanation should be simple.

[MathBlade]

am i insane for thinking there is something Very Wrong about the fact that luke spent a lot of time yesterday pushing omega, then once he realized that's not happening, he was suddenly a firm believer in meg flipping red, brute forced the wagon through, then the person whose literally only strong read was "datisi is locktown" is dead, and *then* luke is back on omega while making a convoluted case on why i'm a partner when that case is half made up of literal lies and empty assumptions?

I see assumptions but what lies are present?

[Titus]

am i insane for thinking there is something Very Wrong about the fact that luke spent a lot of time yesterday pushing omega, then once he realized that's not happening, he was suddenly a firm believer in meg flipping red, brute forced the wagon through, then the person whose literally only strong read was "datisi is locktown" is dead, and *then* luke is back on omega while making a convoluted case on why i'm a partner when that case is half made up of literal lies and empty assumptions?

I don’t see why scumLuke does this unless they’re trying really hard to bus Chaos and think they can get a universal Townread destroyed out of it.

Also Luke got cold feet about Chaos after people started joining that wagon and it became more viable, so “realizing it wasn’t gonna happen” is an incorrect assessment.

There's a shiny Umlaut wagon waiting for your comment.

[Aristeia]

I don't particularly have any reason to think Chaos definitely flips scum here.

I am voting for Chaos because the case for Chaos makes more sense to me than the case for Umlaut because nobody's even presented anything for Umlaut and Datisi scares me rn :<

*sad*

I presented Umlaut is scum because he wasn't voting yesterday and I caught scum doing that very recently. It's also why I FoSed him day 1.

you think umlaut is scum who saw town killing town and just didn't care enough to vote?

[Aristeia]

Titus how sure do you feel about Ums?

[Titus]

you think umlaut is scum who saw town killing town and just didn't care enough to vote?

Possibly. Could be frozen scum too.

I feel moderately confident. My TRs voting there helps.

[Titus]

Then the explanation should be simple.

*frustrated anxious twitch*

[Alchemist21]

am i insane for thinking there is something Very Wrong about the fact that luke spent a lot of time yesterday pushing omega, then once he realized that's not happening, he was suddenly a firm believer in meg flipping red, brute forced the wagon through, then the person whose literally only strong read was "datisi is locktown" is dead, and *then* luke is back on omega while making a convoluted case on why i'm a partner when that case is half made up of literal lies and empty assumptions?

I don’t see why scumLuke does this unless they’re trying really hard to bus Chaos and think they can get a universal Townread destroyed out of it.

Also Luke got cold feet about Chaos after people started joining that wagon and it became more viable, so “realizing it wasn’t gonna happen” is an incorrect assessment.

There's a shiny Umlaut wagon waiting for your comment.

I think Umlaut has a decent chance of flipping scum but I think the chance of Chaos scum is higher.