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[LicketyQuickety]

How do you get a read on DoTW without either meta, tmi? I don't see meta in there sooo..

They are a new player iirc. They should TownTell at some point.

[Dwlee99]

Yes they do.
Who are you townreading and why?

Nero gives me the good abrasive and annoyed vibes.
You make me think you're sorting
^ ditto with LQ
Shrek and A50 get townreads too
Honorable mention: cheeky teeky is null almost entirely because their profile picture is so similar to how I think about LQ and Norwee.

Do you really think blame people for not engaging with your largely unexplained reads?

I don't blame them. It's just how it is.

It's a strange look to be egging on an established wagon out of two competing wagons with little reason. If t3 were to flip town it would link you to Nero as scum which if you're both town is pretty rough.

Okay? But I think I'm right, so I'll push the wagon I think will get us a scum flip.

Dwlee this read is not super strong. Not enough to not reevaluate at least.

I would reeval if t3 did anything townie but his answer about the Nero metadive is just completely ignoring he said he would do it, but still saying Nero's meta doesn't match his town meta.

[T3]

Yep DGB is town

Because they're throwing out town reads?

Scum DGB just straight up doesn't give reads unless prompted and the reads she gives are overexplained.
Citatation: Death Curse

[T3]

You see Luke, metagood - Yoda

[T3]

Seriously though, DGB is ELEVATED to TOWNREAD.

[Dwlee99]

Yep DGB is town

Because they're throwing out town reads?

Scum DGB just straight up doesn't give reads unless prompted and the reads she gives are overexplained.
Citatation: Death Curse

I don't believe you.

[T3]

Town!Nero posts a lot of one-liners but he actually engages with the thread and quotes people. He will also occasionally posts a quote wall. Scum!Nero barely engages with the thread and when he does post it's usually contentless one-liners. Conclusion: Basedon the lack of walls Nero is scum, but I'm not too sure about this one.

[T3]

Yep DGB is town

Because they're throwing out town reads?

Scum DGB just straight up doesn't give reads unless prompted and the reads she gives are overexplained.
Citatation: Death Curse

I don't believe you.

Then you get dayvigged.

[CheekyTeeky]

T3 any other scumreads aside from Nero?

[T3]

Nope!

[T3]

Everyone elsa is locktown, so I'm sure we'll win this

[Shrek]

dwlee and t3 are the only two here ive played with before. i havent played a scum game with dwlee but based on his thought processes in 601 i think hes likely town as well. hes usually kind of stubborn when it comes to these things and i havent seen him do anything that deviates from his town play thus far

[T3]

Clearly nero is the only scum.

[T3]

Seriously though, I'll do something.

[Dwlee99]

Yep DGB is town

Because they're throwing out town reads?

Scum DGB just straight up doesn't give reads unless prompted and the reads she gives are overexplained.
Citatation: Death Curse

I don't believe you.

Then you get dayvigged.

Do it coward

[T3]

Yep DGB is town

Because they're throwing out town reads?

Scum DGB just straight up doesn't give reads unless prompted and the reads she gives are overexplained.
Citatation: Death Curse

I don't believe you.

Then you get dayvigged.

Do it coward

[TemporalLich]

VC 1.7

Nero Cain (5) - ArcAngel9, Roden, T3, Gamma Emerald, MegAzumarill
T3 (3) - Dwlee99, LicketyQuickety, Almost50
DrippingGoofball (2) - CheekyTeeky, NorwegianboyEE
Testarossa (1) - Shrek
Save The Dragons (1) - Testarossa
MegAzumarill (1) - Nero Cain
Gamma Emerald (1) - Save The Dragons
CheekyTeeky (1) - DrippingGoofball

Not voting: KittyTacky, Dragon of the West

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-08-21 18:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

[DrippingGoofball]

maybe this idk. dgb not tunnelingg me like normal is creepy. also big vibe that DGB is scum with Mega.

Funny, I was worried about you not tunneling me.

[DrippingGoofball]

You're pushing a false narrative that Mega wants you bussed

Wait, what?
What does that mean.

[DrippingGoofball]

One of my weird ways of scumhunting is to look into the first 3 posters in each game, as these have been proven -statistically- to have 1 scum in them more often than not. However, this tool has failed me of late, and even if it's true here; the first 3 were STD (who hasn't given me much yet), ArcAngel (who isn't really playing the game), Dwlee (whom I seem to always have trouble reading as his Town and Scum play are almost identical).

oh no not that nonsense

[Roden]

I kept my vote on you because your responses to pressure haven't been good.

tell me more

I did, it was in my post.

ou dropped attention on me when you saw I wasn't getting wagon'd, and then you started focusing on Mega,

i don't think this is true? Also there's more than 1 scum in this game why should my sole focus be on you?

It's true according to your ISO.

Didn't say your sole focus had to be on me? I'm saying if you think I'm scum then I don't think it's a real scum read if you'd give up that easily to try to wagon someone else instead. It gives me an "anyone but me" attitude which isn't helpful to town.

ou're pushing a false narrative that Mega wants you bussed

never said anything about mega bussing me...

Wagon'd. You know what I meant.

so why ignore everyone else?

this is blatantly false

You've said nothing on ArcAngel, almost nothing on Gamma, almost nothing on Cheeky.

And again you're picking and choosing what you respond to as long as it helps your narrative. I won't be responding to much else if you keep trying to argue with me in bad faith.

Gonna add that you're also sheeping Norway even though they voted you. You only seem to care about why I specifically voted you.

My vote on Nero was obvious RVS and Nero also recognized it as such.
How is this relevant?

This is why I don't like that Nero keeps chopping up quotes.

My original post took issue with how he's been hyper focused on my vote on him. He tried to shade me for keeping my vote on him, and I pointed out that he hasn't done the same to others. I brought up your name exactly because he recognized your vote as RVS, yet it didn't ping him that your vote stayed on him well past RVS.

This isn't a shade attempt on you, but me pointing out that his concern/shade on me reads as faked.

Okay, Roden is probably Town here. I like their analysis and the way they are playing. It's a strong Town Lean for me.

I'm also going to TR Norweigh for their reads. So that's a read that holds since early game.

I think these are genuine reads.

and his gut read on me feels iffy since he should know my scum play is different than this.

how would you define the difference

Because I'm not already a general consensus town read, I haven't buttered up any town leaders, I haven't tried to appease anyone yet, I'm not backing down from my scum reads for townie points, and I'm not playing cautiously/conservatively. I know how to influence town and that clearly isn't happening here. And I know you haven't played with me in a confirmed town game yet, but you can see in my completed town games that I play just as recklessly in those as I've been playing here.

Testa's vote on Nero and quick switch onto StD once she got pressured on it made me think she's scared to have attention on her,

I noticed that too, I was hoping they would post more.

What do you make of Mega lock towning Testa pretty fast? That kinda skewed my read there.

Mega is kinda easy to read IMO, so I don't think it's an associative. But they are kinda easy to fool, no offense of course to Mega, so I think they just glanced at Testa and moved on. If Testa actually does flip red though, I think we need to pressure Mega and do an ISO dive.

@Mega:

Why did you town lock Testa so easily? Is it an actual lock?

[DrippingGoofball]

Gonna add that you're also sheeping Norway even though they voted you. You only seem to care about why I specifically voted you.

My scum read on Roden is dissipating.

[DrippingGoofball]

The following block of Norwee/T3/Meg/DGB/Gamma/Shrek/Roden should contain 1-2 scums in it, while Dwlee/DotW/STD/Testa/Kitty/Arc should contain the other 2-1.

Can you go over why you think these blocks in particular?

ACTIVITY. When there are 3 scums it's usually the case one is hyperactive, one is mildly active, and one is lurking. With 4 scums I just added the extra slot to either the mildly active group or the lurking group. Nothing is carved in stone though.

Also, this game feels like it needs a breakthrough. The "right" flip here could make the game much easier for us, while the wrong one could send us down in spirals. I'm watching the multiple 1-on-1's with some interest, but not much judgement for the time being.

Strong vibes of a "system to beat the casinos."

[Roden]

Dwlee hasn't attempted to sheep obvscum yet, which is worrying.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yep DGB is town

Because they're throwing out town reads?

It's so cute, my scum read is jelly of my town reads