Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

[Medea the Alien]

I do want to signal boost dragon's post about LLD choosing a different approach this game being hard null. Don't scumread or townread for it, just run with it.

At some point maybe Lady Rhea (you're getting called that unless it's objectionable, checkmark up if so) can try to explain the read on me, probably AFTER absorbing the new data.

[Medea the Alien]

Also in case anyone is curious, the countdown in sig is 5th wedding anniversary.

(Which to answer however asked if the game birbs linked is after marriage, no, but i was mid move to Chicago and we WERE dating)

[Snarky Fishes]

I do want to signal boost dragon's post about LLD choosing a different approach this game being hard null. Don't scumread or townread for it, just run with it.

At some point maybe Lady Rhea (you're getting called that unless it's objectionable, checkmark up if so) can try to explain the read on me, probably AFTER absorbing the new data.

The approach is null. How do you feel about your earlier reasoning for townreading her?

[Annie Edison]

I was wondering, I originally thought it was deadline and then it wasn’t that

But I only noticed it late last night.

[Sleez]

I would even say that my theory is that while yes, town can use shards, scum actually wants to be the one to get them.

Look at what bork said. Look at what Medea said. Medea said they're a demon right now. That's 1. Is there 2? I would say if you're a demon go ahead and claim because it's numbers advantage.

[Medea the Alien]

I still feel that it holds valid. I still think there would have been more focus on the shard mechanic, especially pre-nerfbat. It's not like, the towniest townread that ever townread, but it's sufficient to clear Lady Rhea off the list for today, for sure.

[Medea the Alien]

I would even say that my theory is that while yes, town can use shards, scum actually wants to be the one to get them.

I mentioned this earlier, but there was another game a lot of the players here were in, called Tenet, where there was a vaguely similar mechanic, with a public-vote-to-use mechanic and both town and scum had reasons to desire the change. I do see the parallels to this game, and am operating under the assumption that both town and scum could potentially want to go to one side or the other of the human/demon divide.

My current working theory is thus:

Town has:
1x 2 shards starting
3x 1 shard starting
6x 0 shards starting

Mafia has:
1x 2 shards starting
2x 1 shards starting

I could see a world in which town has one additional shard in play and scum only has 3 total, but the above is my guess.

[Snarky Fishes]

I still feel that it holds valid. I still think there would have been more focus on the shard mechanic, especially pre-nerfbat. It's not like, the towniest townread that ever townread, but it's sufficient to clear Lady Rhea off the list for today, for sure.

That's where I'm at.

Probably the thing I like best about the dragons is the way ceph has been engaging Rhea.

[Medea the Alien]

I still feel that it holds valid. I still think there would have been more focus on the shard mechanic, especially pre-nerfbat. It's not like, the towniest townread that ever townread, but it's sufficient to clear Lady Rhea off the list for today, for sure.

That's where I'm at.

Probably the thing I like best about the dragons is the way ceph has been engaging Rhea.

"They felt great in the minute, but really shit upon ISO review" is how Penguin explained it to me, but that was prior to the engagement stuff which mitigates it a tiny bit for me.

[Sleez]

Bork likely readjusted the numbers because there is probably 1 demon who is scum and 1 demon who is town. We can mechanically assume Medea is the town demon until proven otherwise.

The other 2 mafia are likely humans.

[Medea the Alien]

there is probably 1 demon who is scum and 1 demon who is town

Yes... but you shouldn't have said this out loud, to hopefully bait the claim. I thought that's what your previous post was doing when you called for demon claims.

[Snarky Fishes]

Congratulations on your 5th anniversary.

No, Spiffeh, I won't town bin you just because you've asked and made some minor commentary and slightly wry self-observations


-Bell.

[Snarky Fishes]

Speaking of Ceph,

Ceph, what are your thoughts about manatee's play in this game vs your modded game, and have you thought of it in light of the dead thread convo she and I had about how she was caught in that game?

[Sleez]

there is probably 1 demon who is scum and 1 demon who is town

Yes... but you shouldn't have said this out loud, to hopefully bait the claim. I thought that's what your previous post was doing when you called for demon claims.

I understand I could've caught someone like that, but it's dirty. I was thinking outloud and cared less about setting a trap. We're just different people.

[Snarky Fishes]

Can I stop to point out how ironic it is that someone named sleez is talking about morality, fairness and an even playing field.

[Medea the Alien]

there is probably 1 demon who is scum and 1 demon who is town

Yes... but you shouldn't have said this out loud, to hopefully bait the claim. I thought that's what your previous post was doing when you called for demon claims.

I understand I could've caught someone like that, but it's dirty. I was thinking outloud and cared less about setting a trap. We're just different people.

And here I thought you'd embrace Lupusregina's point of view, but perhaps I mis-identified your sig.

[Sleez]

Can I stop to point out how ironic it is that someone named sleez is talking about morality, fairness and an even playing field.

I embrace it in different ways.

[Snarky Fishes]

This is something that also bothers me about Sleez TBH, but I still remain neutral.

I just think half the time they're looking more at the rightness of athing than whether something is scummy or not and when scum don't have to hunt, some go all in on theory or all in on being self-righteous and then just use that to brow beat the town.

I think that specifically in their case, that's not quite right because they are being quite communicative and they tend to follow it up with questions on morality or approach rather than just adding oil to the fire. But it's there.

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Spiffeh

Bad mouse.

-Bell

This made me look back at his iso lol

**Spiffeh throws manatee a lifeline**

**Manatee has a questionable response**

**Spiffeh abandons the thread**

[Spiffeh]

Bell I think I had some p. great posts recently I urge you to read them please and thank you

[Snarky Fishes]

I've read them, I'm scum reading you and I feel like your reads are very safe and you should be ashamed of your mousiness.

[Spiffeh]

Oh that's a shame hopefully everyone just ignores you about me then

[Snarky Fishes]

*drops the micc and watches it float awkwardly next to me*

That was cooler in my head.

[Spiffeh]

Disagree with Manatee gun-to-head-town and Sleez possibly-not-town being safe reads but I also don't care if my reads are safe because it's how I feel and I do think you're being a little lazy in regards to me reading me rn hope you can see the light soon godspeed

[Snarky Fishes]

Sure thing.
I haven't a clue how to sort AA when there's like, nothing there.