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Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:14 am

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and 84 too!
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Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:15 am

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In post 1531, ManateeGal wrote:@Annie

I'd say your AA9 vote is pretty good for right now. I haven't been a huge fan of her so far so I'd like to see how she responds to the pressure of votes. Im ok with your vote as is

I myself am keeping my vote on luke for reasons i outlined in my reread, further ideas will be fleshed out when i finish rereading later.
I have a problem with your post manatee. Not long ago you mentioned my posts were genuine and now you're saying annie vote one was pretty good but yourself didn't vote me.

what is your agenda here? if you strongly believe luke is scum. why not ask annie to vote for luke. How is her vote on was right and your vote on luke is correct when you obviously scum read luke more than me. I don't see any rationale here!
In post 1563, Annie Edison wrote:I think my favorite part of reading that is she had the audacity to call me mean here and I see her ISO there

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yeah its really bad

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Youre mean as a bull dear! get over it.
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Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:16 am

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Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:17 am

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In post 1566, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1341, ArcAngel9 wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta
I feel that their inactiveness is an act. She seems on and off but not really contributing much to the game. Post #937 , what is the point of that? And Not a fan of “Right” and “Cross” symbols. I need concrete inputs.
In post 1369, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 1358, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 1354, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 1350, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 1082, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 1080, Medea the Alien wrote:I still feel that it holds valid. I still think there would have been more focus on the shard mechanic, especially pre-nerfbat. It's not like, the towniest townread that ever townread, but it's sufficient to clear Lady Rhea off the list for today, for sure.
That's where I'm at.
i continue to think this take sucks, but for me i guess she's almost off the table day 1 automatically just by virtue of account name. so maybe you're saying the slightest excuse is enough for you to do the same, rather than that this is some incredibly town action?
Is this addressed to me?

It's not a strong reason to hard-townread Rhea, but I do feel like she started the game by intentionally relinquishing some of her strongest tools as a scum player.

It sounds like you disagree with the take although you have her off the table today, too, just based on rep.
it's pointed at both you and medea really.

@line 2: my belief is that she would have decided to play the game this way before receiving her role pm. if i don't believe that then i have to get into some ethical questions that make me uncomfortable.
Probably. And she's no doubt better at making an approach work as scum, and I don't think she'd pick an approach she'd expect to be detrimental to her favorite alignment. Which assumes that Rhea's preferences are similar, and I have no idea if that's a good assumption.

If you had decided to play a minimalist approach before a game was rolled and wound up with a scum role, would you stick with it? Why or why not?

I don't choose a playstyle approach in advance because I never stick with them and always fall back into old (bad? maybe, but the generally work for me) habits. I envy people who can easily tailor their playstyle. The kinds of stuff I decide in advance of going into a game are shaped by my role and thoughts on the setup, and by the player list. And they often fall by the wayside due to the way the game unfolds.
In post 1372, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 1358, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 1354, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 1350, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 1082, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 1080, Medea the Alien wrote:I still feel that it holds valid. I still think there would have been more focus on the shard mechanic, especially pre-nerfbat. It's not like, the towniest townread that ever townread, but it's sufficient to clear Lady Rhea off the list for today, for sure.
That's where I'm at.
i continue to think this take sucks, but for me i guess she's almost off the table day 1 automatically just by virtue of account name. so maybe you're saying the slightest excuse is enough for you to do the same, rather than that this is some incredibly town action?
Is this addressed to me?

It's not a strong reason to hard-townread Rhea, but I do feel like she started the game by intentionally relinquishing some of her strongest tools as a scum player.

It sounds like you disagree with the take although you have her off the table today, too, just based on rep.
it's pointed at both you and medea really.

@line 2: my belief is that she would have decided to play the game this way before receiving her role pm. if i don't believe that then i have to get into some ethical questions that make me uncomfortable.
I'm pretty sure there's zero concern of your last line being at play here.

But Lady Rhea COULD have still gone for the tools. It's very clear as we have literally already proved in this thread that communication with said goddess of Fodlan is quite possible, that she would have had zero issue communicating her intents around the shard mechanic.

Basically, we got this:

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and not (FE3H SPOILERS) this:

Spoiler:
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I have nothing against selective mutism but this is mafia. why do you sign up for a game that primarily feeds on discussions and debates. how are you planning to do justice?
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Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:18 am

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In post 2071, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 1543, Medea the Alien wrote:You two literally bickered identically to this as town-town in said game.
Oh gosh. *hides away

Not science was so so mean to me that drove me crazy in that game. I promise that I am not the same person anymore.
Im sorry. I’m not excusing my actions there but I was like 16 at the time. We’re butting heads here some but I promise I’ve matured a lot.
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Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:20 am

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AA9 I’m not going to get into it but you need to reflect that you gave it as much as you got it.
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Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:20 am

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In post 2078, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 1566, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1341, ArcAngel9 wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta
I feel that their inactiveness is an act. She seems on and off but not really contributing much to the game. Post #937 , what is the point of that? And Not a fan of “Right” and “Cross” symbols. I need concrete inputs.
In post 1369, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 1358, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 1354, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 1350, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 1082, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 1080, Medea the Alien wrote:I still feel that it holds valid. I still think there would have been more focus on the shard mechanic, especially pre-nerfbat. It's not like, the towniest townread that ever townread, but it's sufficient to clear Lady Rhea off the list for today, for sure.
That's where I'm at.
i continue to think this take sucks, but for me i guess she's almost off the table day 1 automatically just by virtue of account name. so maybe you're saying the slightest excuse is enough for you to do the same, rather than that this is some incredibly town action?
Is this addressed to me?

It's not a strong reason to hard-townread Rhea, but I do feel like she started the game by intentionally relinquishing some of her strongest tools as a scum player.

It sounds like you disagree with the take although you have her off the table today, too, just based on rep.
it's pointed at both you and medea really.

@line 2: my belief is that she would have decided to play the game this way before receiving her role pm. if i don't believe that then i have to get into some ethical questions that make me uncomfortable.
Probably. And she's no doubt better at making an approach work as scum, and I don't think she'd pick an approach she'd expect to be detrimental to her favorite alignment. Which assumes that Rhea's preferences are similar, and I have no idea if that's a good assumption.

If you had decided to play a minimalist approach before a game was rolled and wound up with a scum role, would you stick with it? Why or why not?

I don't choose a playstyle approach in advance because I never stick with them and always fall back into old (bad? maybe, but the generally work for me) habits. I envy people who can easily tailor their playstyle. The kinds of stuff I decide in advance of going into a game are shaped by my role and thoughts on the setup, and by the player list. And they often fall by the wayside due to the way the game unfolds.
In post 1372, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 1358, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 1354, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 1350, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 1082, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 1080, Medea the Alien wrote:I still feel that it holds valid. I still think there would have been more focus on the shard mechanic, especially pre-nerfbat. It's not like, the towniest townread that ever townread, but it's sufficient to clear Lady Rhea off the list for today, for sure.
That's where I'm at.
i continue to think this take sucks, but for me i guess she's almost off the table day 1 automatically just by virtue of account name. so maybe you're saying the slightest excuse is enough for you to do the same, rather than that this is some incredibly town action?
Is this addressed to me?

It's not a strong reason to hard-townread Rhea, but I do feel like she started the game by intentionally relinquishing some of her strongest tools as a scum player.

It sounds like you disagree with the take although you have her off the table today, too, just based on rep.
it's pointed at both you and medea really.

@line 2: my belief is that she would have decided to play the game this way before receiving her role pm. if i don't believe that then i have to get into some ethical questions that make me uncomfortable.
I'm pretty sure there's zero concern of your last line being at play here.

But Lady Rhea COULD have still gone for the tools. It's very clear as we have literally already proved in this thread that communication with said goddess of Fodlan is quite possible, that she would have had zero issue communicating her intents around the shard mechanic.

Basically, we got this:

Image

and not (FE3H SPOILERS) this:

Spoiler:
Image





I have nothing against selective mutism but this is mafia. why do you sign up for a game that primarily feeds on discussions and debates. how are you planning to do justice?
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Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:20 am

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Could we not have a discussion about how people should be playing mafia and instead talk about your reads Ark?

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Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:23 am

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Nobody is going to catch me up are they. :(

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Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:24 am

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Titus claimed Friendly neighbor. People are wagoning pooky. Medea and manatee put out readslists.

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Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:26 am

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In post 2069, Annie Edison wrote:Idk I’m trying to translate for you because she’s not for whatever reason
She's saying she think I missed it and she thinks it's not something I would catch.
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Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:27 am

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Cool.

I read the Manatee's reads list. My primary objection with it is that we're in the "I have not bothered reading the person with 4x the number of posts I've made - here's a null read"
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Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:28 am

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NGL I laughed when I found that game as like the second game I checked for notscience-AA9 game crossover. I thought about C&Ping those posts here and see if anyone would notice they were different games.

Notscience, as I mentioned there is a completed AA9 town game. Where two of her three votes placed were on scum (third was on a townie that I'd characterize as an OMGUS vote on her way to being voted out). Large normal 234. She also called out scum-Titus there.

AA9, I would ask you to dive into this game with a wider vision field. Hopefully that's where you're going anyways, but yeah. Talk to me about Lukewarm and expand on ManateeGirl's more recent content.

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Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:29 am

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I do see town Titus now btw. before the claim when they gripped Pooky with both hands and shook the teddy bear.
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Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:33 am

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Not because I agree with the read (I don't have much of an opinion on Pooky besides that their recent tone has shifted slightly, which I'm not used to).

AA9 is still largely a desert of content. I'm all for tone reads but are they normally this tight lipped? Their field of vision is very narrow.
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Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:35 am

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Also, the Annie edison read makes me question their level of experience playing mafia. Or if they're just scum who can't see town to save their lives.

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Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:36 am

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Oh wow, I swear I didn't see PA mention the wider vision field before I made my post.

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Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:39 am

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Bell, I playstyle clash with her basically.
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Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:43 am

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In post 2090, Snarky Fishes wrote:Also, the Annie edison read makes me question their level of experience playing mafia. Or if they're just scum who can't see town to save their lives.

-Bell.
They're just oil and water. Go read that game (even when notscience says not to) and C&C to this one. I'd like to tell them to just separate corners it for the day completely, but that's not my place. Hence asking AA9 to give opinions elsewhere. I'll point you to her recent completed town game too. (and AA9 is she, not they)

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Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:46 am

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In post 1569, Snarky Fishes wrote:In my experience, a snarky AA is a town AA.

The snark was awakened, so there's that.
this must be coming from ffery. I am sure of it.
In post 1570, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 1384, Here There Be Dragons wrote: spiffeh, can you remind me what your reads are?
Only reads I'm confident in at this point are town reads on Annie Edison and Snarky fishes, probably Manatee at this point too

Everyone else has given me mixed signals or hasn't made an impression on me.

unwnd is working his way up recently but I think his current crusade against Snarky fishes is...unnecessary and cannot see what he is seeing there.

Lukewarm has given me no town vibes and his point against Medea about having both himself and Manatee, an unlikely scum team, as scum reads is lazy and felt like he was preemptively trying to discredit their upcoming explanation for their scum read on him which is why I'm currently voting him.

I'm having trouble forming concrete reads so far. I think I'll have a better time listing out players I'm not willing to lim today and PoEing from the remaining list. I could probably do better with a reread but lol that's a lot of effort
How is Mantee is town? I have a feeling that you two are scum together.
In post 2041, Titus wrote:
In post 2040, Snarky Fishes wrote:Define lurky AA9?
Low rate of posting when present, prodded frequently.

Given the pace of the game, I am surprised AA9 has posted this much.
This is not true. I actively post a lot as town and as scum. it is not my faction tell. My town games are easy to notice them as i come out strong and honest in my posts. i go head to head to defend who i see as town and as scum, i will not be able to do it openly.
In post 2080, Annie Edison wrote:AA9 I’m not going to get into it but you need to reflect that you gave it as much as you got it.
I agree. I will work on it to bury the negativity.
In post 2087, Medea the Alien wrote:NGL I laughed when I found that game as like the second game I checked for notscience-AA9 game crossover. I thought about C&Ping those posts here and see if anyone would notice they were different games.

Notscience, as I mentioned there is a completed AA9 town game. Where two of her three votes placed were on scum (third was on a townie that I'd characterize as an OMGUS vote on her way to being voted out). Large normal 234. She also called out scum-Titus there.

AA9, I would ask you to dive into this game with a wider vision field. Hopefully that's where you're going anyways, but yeah. Talk to me about Lukewarm and expand on ManateeGirl's more recent content.

--PA
I am trying and i will, there is lot going on this day phase. i spent my time in defending my slot and proving myself as town. I had a little window to deep scum hunting. i have some strong scum reads at the early phase but they are changing.

Luke posts are intriguing to me, i understand others reasons for calling him as scum. i have modded a game where he was a town and i don't see that spark in him in this game. i have a moderate scum read on him. I need to see more before i be sure on my read on him.

In post 2089, Snarky Fishes wrote:Not because I agree with the read (I don't have much of an opinion on Pooky besides that their recent tone has shifted slightly, which I'm not used to).

AA9 is still largely a desert of content. I'm all for tone reads but are they normally this tight lipped? Their field of vision is very narrow.
As i said, this game gone beyond the weight of a large game. I struggle with day 1 phase due to the volume of posts and they confuse my understanding a little bit. You will see some concrete inputs as game moves into further day phases.
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Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:47 am

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(Please don’t judge me for my play 8 years ago I’ve spent the past 24 hours cringing)
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Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:48 am

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Weren't those games like 6 years ago. Is this really a thing that is happening.

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Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:49 am

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Isn't it more likely that they're just faking offense and conflict because they're scum this game and having a hard time hunting. /:

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Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:50 am

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I mean like the only way that works is if the only person who actually remembered that game is aligned with them, frankly
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Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:51 am

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It keeps you away from each other and you're aggressively sorting. This kind of wedge makes more sense to me from a TVS perspective.

But whatever.

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