Newbie 2074 | Game Over

[Leaven]

Idk if anyone can confirm this playstyle of voting and unvoting and re-voting without declaring rationale as something Dann does when town as well. I certainly don't understand the rush to end day 2. Town just keeps handicapping itself and I'm certainly responsible with my poor cop play.

A question I have post game is if I just lay low and allow a potential ythan or strange ML, so I get another investigation and also I let the day play out without tainting the waters with my nonsense.

Going to allow Ythan and Strange an opportunity to chime in, but feel okay with this.

[Leaven]

Idk if anyone can confirm this playstyle of voting and unvoting and re-voting without declaring rationale as something Dann does when town as well. I certainly don't understand the rush to end day 2. Town just keeps handicapping itself and I'm certainly responsible with my poor cop play.

A question I have post game is if I just lay low and allow a potential ythan or strange ML, so I get another investigation and also I let the day play out without tainting the waters with my nonsense.

Going to allow Ythan and Strange an opportunity to chime in, but feel okay with this.

[Dannflor]

I guess I'll just say now that I'm the doctor.

I had attempted to play somewhat on the scummy side of things the first couple days so as to avoid the NK but I guess I went too far

[Dannflor]

Now can someone explain to me the reasons they town read SM

[Dannflor]

Idk if anyone can confirm this playstyle of voting and unvoting and re-voting without declaring rationale as something Dann does when town as well.

I do this as town even when I'm not a PR

I'll usually answer if someone asks or I'll explain voluntarily later

but I have my own thought process about the game outside of my posts and I don't always explain my shifts in thread

[Dannflor]

I thought maybe strongly hinting towards Val that I was the doctor and becoming a lot more transparent with my thoughts today and trying to solve with people would townspew me but no one wanted to properly engage with me

[Ythan]

VOTE: StrangeMatter

-1

[Dannflor]

I will say while I still think it's SM here I dislike the fact that Val has completely dismissed and otherwise not engaged with my case for town!ythan, so I would look there over ythan in case SM flips town

[Dannflor]

UNVOTE:

no hammer yet

no rush

[Leaven]

Ok. I felt you already caught on to me as PR before I claimed yesterday and your behavior is completely understandable from that perspective.

[Dannflor]

Dannflor should also be one to know that, if there is a doctor to save Leaven, that puts us in A1, and the chance of Leaven actually having a result tomorrow is approximately zero, so that post about "if there is a doc, these are good targets for Leaven" feels performative.

and yes this was performative mostly to hide the fact I was the doctor

[Leaven]

idk maybe we just go ythan here so he stops E-1 people out of nowhere everyday. This is day 3 of doing that and I specifically asked him not to on day 2. Because I think we still had some play before I was forced to claim before a QH. Remember day one when people lol'd at me unvoting and yet we've gone 2 for 2 now.

[Dannflor]

I'll take another look at ythan when I get home today, it's possible I have a blind spot there

[Ythan]

There's nothing wrong with putting someone at -1. I even announced it.

[Dannflor]

I also tend to think interactions with Gamma make ythan + Gamma fairly unlikely, but a second opinion on that would be great

[Leaven]

Yeah, I think he's town, just seconding SM's policy comments from day 1. We want Val here anyway right?

[StrangeMatter]

Okay at this point from POE Val is Gamma's partner. Ythan's vote doesn't make sense on Salsa as scum (explained in an earlier post), Dann claimed unCCed Doc, and Leaven is claimed and confirmed Cop.

I could be entirely wrong about Ythan, but really this is the only slot left here. I'll deal with that later anyways.

[StrangeMatter]

If it happens, it happens. Not much I can do about that.

[Leaven]

I don't think Ythan is scum, but would feel better about how all of these events went down if he was.

[Dannflor]

yeah from my perspective it is between val and SM

I kinda went over all my arguments for both already this phase

[Val89]

Yeah, you vote me here. If both our town PRs suspect me, there is zero world you take me to ELO.
VOTE: Val89

[Val89]

Well, technically speaking, it's only the fact that Leaven suspects me that means I have to go today. If you don't hit scum today, Dann gets NK'd.

If it's SM, and we vote SM, fine, gg; but if its not; D3 is Me, Leaven and scum!Ythan, and Leaven votes me, so scum!Ythan wins. Same logic applies voting Ythan over me today. You have to lim me.

[Ythan]

If you are eliminated today and then Dann is killed tonight it'll be me and Leaven and Strange. Is that any different? Is someone townreading Strange? I don't get what your plan is supposed be accomplish and I don't want to eliminate you because I'm pretty sure it's just Strange.

[Val89]

From your perspective, Leaven deciding from You and SM is probably no different.

From my perspective, the only thing I know for sure is that I am town, and if Leaven is going to vote me in a D3 ELO that's a town loss; whomever I am left with.

Even if he flips a coin on you v SM, then 50/50 still looks like better odds of a town win then the alternative; which is that I am 90% sure he votes for me and loses.

[Ythan]

Hm.