Mini 2231: Radio Buzz | Game Over!

[Infinity 324]

how do you distinguish between a white knight and just me townreading you

[Morning Tweet]

DAY ONE

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Vote Count 1.3

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skitter30 [3]

: Roden, Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald

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Infinity 324 [2]

: Tetrina, Ydrasse

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ssbm_Kyouko [1]

: Cephrir

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Gamma Emerald [1]

: PookyTheMagicalBear

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Roden [1]

: Galron

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Tetrina [1]

: House

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Galron [1]

: ssbm_Kyouko

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DrippingGoofball [1]

: skitter30

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Cephrir [1]

: DrippingGoofball

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Not Voting [1]

: rousseau

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With 13 still hanging in there, it takes 7 votes to exile someone. If a majority is not reached by deadline, plurality will decide.

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The Day One deadline is in:

(expired on 2021-08-17 15:00:00)

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Mod Notes:

Doing the VCs by hand, let me know if there are errors!

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[Gamma Emerald]

Kyouko is my strongest town read.

May I ask about this?
FYI I could see Cephrir!scum atm

[Gamma Emerald]

House truly null, Gamma and Pooky in null because they've both done things that are lightly towny and lightly scummy, and to me they feel balanced out.

tbh I think Pooky is slightly towny rn

[Gamma Emerald]

what is the word for when everyone simultaneously wheels on infinity and it feels orchestrated but the individuals don't feel like mafia

Chinese fire drill/flash wagon?

[Infinity 324]

House truly null, Gamma and Pooky in null because they've both done things that are lightly towny and lightly scummy, and to me they feel balanced out.

tbh I think Pooky is slightly towny rn

huh why

[rousseau]

what is the word for when everyone simultaneously wheels on infinity and it feels orchestrated but the individuals don't feel like mafia

Chinese fire drill/flash wagon?

too hard to make sense of even with the big magnifying glass

like sure drippinggoofball + one of wheelers likely skitter partners if skitter mafia? but eh

if infinity mafia wheelers likely town

it just, like, everyone appeared from disparate places to scumread infinity at approximately the same time and other than tetrina also put effort into those scumreads and it does not feel particularly like that's just how things happen ya know

[Infinity 324]

scumreading town!me is such an incredible experience, people couldn't resist for very long

[Tetrina]

How can I trust you Infinity324?

[Infinity 324]

i'm not sure how to answer that. i could tell you what i think the towniest thing i've done are but you'd have no reason to believe me really. try to look at whether i'm saying things to look like i'm solving and have nuance or because i really believe in them (i tend to be more emotionally attached to my reads as town). also in the past i've had trouble keeping up my motivation past day 1 as scum so look out for that.

[Tetrina]

Can you promise you're town? I dunno if you're the type of person who would feel bad promising like that as a scum

[Infinity 324]

i wouldn't feel bad about that, i think it's important to be able to do stuff like that as scum for the sake of game integrity.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

House truly null, Gamma and Pooky in null because they've both done things that are lightly towny and lightly scummy, and to me they feel balanced out.

tbh I think Pooky is slightly towny rn

What do you think of this part of 308 re: Infinity's push on Skitter?

In Infinity's discussion with skitter, I really felt like I was being white knighted at first. I didnt say anything because I wanted to see how long it would go on, and it seemed to me that any push on skitter there was heavily tied to defending me. I'm going to reread this and see what I think today though.

I'm also curious though, as to why Pooky seems townie to you

[Ydrasse]

what is the word for when everyone simultaneously wheels on infinity and it feels orchestrated but the individuals don't feel like mafia

Chinese fire drill/flash wagon?

too hard to make sense of even with the big magnifying glass

like sure drippinggoofball + one of wheelers likely skitter partners if skitter mafia? but eh

if infinity mafia wheelers likely town

it just, like, everyone appeared from disparate places to scumread infinity at approximately the same time and other than tetrina also put effort into those scumreads and it does not feel particularly like that's just how things happen ya know

i don’t feel that this is a particularly rare occurrence? i can think of two times off the top of my head where there was something scummy that happened that town all jumped on at the same time, and both times it /was/ on mafia

[Infinity 324]

how do you distinguish between a white knight and just me townreading you

@ssbm

[Ydrasse]

i have some thoughts on the communication stuff from last night but i want to withhold my thoughts until the next one i think :<

[rousseau]

i don’t feel that this is a particularly rare occurrence? i can think of two times off the top of my head where there was something scummy that happened that town all jumped on at the same time, and both times it /was/ on mafia

it didn't feel like that to me though

like 'scummy thing happens! we will vote infinity for scummy thing!'

it felt like

'i am now scumreading infinity because...'
'i am now scumreading infinity because...'
'i am also scumreading infinity because...'

[rousseau]

like 'scummy thing happens! we will vote infinity for scummy thing!'

it felt like

'i am now scumreading infinity because...'
'i am now scumreading infinity because...'
'i am also scumreading infinity because...'

i am trying to say it felt like the bottom one not the top one (which is the situation i think you were describing)

[Ydrasse]

if the latter is the result of the first i don’t see a difference in the situations

[Ydrasse]

like infinity has said some scummy things, so i am reading her as scum because of these things, so i will vote her

[rousseau]

if the latter is the result of the first i don’t see a difference in the situations

you think all of your reasonings align?

[Ydrasse]

not 1-1

[Ydrasse]

if you think all of us are individually not-scummy, do you take issue with the reasons we all have even if they aren’t the same?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

how do you distinguish between a white knight and just me townreading you

@ssbm

White knighting is used to counterattack skitter here. Essentially the same words could be used to TR me in a different context, where I'm not being pushed by skitter, and that's the distinction. It's because it's tied into your push on skitter who was pushing me at the time. You were using a defense of me in your push on skitter, rather than just explaining a TR on me. It's the context of the words that distinguishes the wk from the tr

VOTE: infinity I want to do this or DGB right now in the interest of consolidating a bit

[rousseau]

if you think all of us are individually not-scummy, do you take issue with the reasons we all have even if they aren’t the same?

i guess maybe only the main participants were being considered when i said individually not scummy; drippinggoofball's 'excessively conciliatory' post also noteworthy and would not classify it as such

it's just weird to see come together like that, like different reasonings reaching the same conclusion at the same time, hard to make sense of like i said