Newbie 2076 [Game Over]

[Roden]

T3, 1 question for you. Even if your crackpot theory DOES work, why force claim tracker to claim d1 f1. While I still hate the idea of a PR claiming d1, im more on the side of the tracker claiming late d1, after we've had good discusscion. If your answer is "tracker might get pushed", who cares? By that time, we will hopefully have 2-3 susses and we can just pivot to the 2nd one

I think I know why T3's going for this and I'm just gonna town lock him now.

I mean, prolonging RQS and to keep talking about it beyond your first few posts is sus sure. But the person who did RQS this game(Lickety), did not prolong and even got some /starter/ reads(Only serious read is the TR on me, but still, Lickety did get some info, so sure RQS may be easy town cred for little effort but Idt thats the case in this game

This is a fair point actually.

[HockeyFan]

T3, 1 question for you. Even if your crackpot theory DOES work, why force claim tracker to claim d1 f1. While I still hate the idea of a PR claiming d1, im more on the side of the tracker claiming late d1, after we've had good discusscion. If your answer is "tracker might get pushed", who cares? By that time, we will hopefully have 2-3 susses and we can just pivot to the 2nd one

I think I know why T3's going for this and I'm just gonna town lock him now.

Why are u locking him town based on "what hes going for". Yes I agree with the TR on T3(explained in 62), but I dont get your reasoning for tring him. Its intresting that you know whats hes going for. HMMM did he tell u in maf PT:).

I mean, prolonging RQS and to keep talking about it beyond your first few posts is sus sure. But the person who did RQS this game(Lickety), did not prolong and even got some /starter/ reads(Only serious read is the TR on me, but still, Lickety did get some info, so sure RQS may be easy town cred for little effort but Idt thats the case in this game

This is a fair point actually.

[Roden]

I think you'll just see as the game goes on. I'm sensing a spicy T3 play and scum might not be happy starting Day 2.

[HockeyFan]

I think you'll just see as the game goes on. I'm sensing a spicy T3 play and scum might not be happy starting Day 2.

Okay you saying this implies that you

want

tracker to claim d1 f1? If thats true, what do u think the benefit actually is in claiming tracker d1 f1?

[Roden]

I think you'll just see as the game goes on. I'm sensing a spicy T3 play and scum might not be happy starting Day 2.

Okay you saying this implies that you

want

tracker to claim d1 f1? If thats true, what do u think the benefit actually is in claiming tracker d1 f1?

I can't answer this unfortunately.

[LicketyQuickety]

I trust the site meta on the Tracker claim stuff.

[MargotRosa]

In terms of the tbh tell, the last time I tried to apply it, it led me astray because, as mentioned above, the person just talked (wrote?) like that. I've seen games where it is a notable difference in someone's style, but I suspect in newbie games it will generally be harder to apply.

I think its more valuable to see whether that statement where they said "tbh" comes from a scum motive then to scumhunt via a tell that probably doesnt even work

Also, I am in the camp that there is no need for a tracker to claim on page 3, or even Day 1 for that matter unless they get close to elimination. Still, this is the sort of gambit that I've discovered is well within T3's wheelhouse so I don't see it as particularly indicative.

Yeah look, if this is just a site meta thing that I don't know about, I'm happy to drop it. Still not pleased with the idea, and will stick to my guns in opposing the idea, but happy enough to go with it if the majority decide to go that route

[HockeyFan]

I think you'll just see as the game goes on. I'm sensing a spicy T3 play and scum might not be happy starting Day 2.

Okay you saying this implies that you

want

tracker to claim d1 f1? If thats true, what do u think the benefit actually is in claiming tracker d1 f1?

I can't answer this unfortunately.

Hmmm Hiding info from town now are we? Idt this is AI and i will probs drop this topic. I do have a question tho; What are your thoughts on the game so far

I trust the site meta on the Tracker claim stuff.

Does this mean you agree that tracker should claim d1?

[Roden]

In terms of the tbh tell, the last time I tried to apply it, it led me astray because, as mentioned above, the person just talked (wrote?) like that. I've seen games where it is a notable difference in someone's style, but I suspect in newbie games it will generally be harder to apply.

I think its more valuable to see whether that statement where they said "tbh" comes from a scum motive then to scumhunt via a tell that probably doesnt even work

Also, I am in the camp that there is no need for a tracker to claim on page 3, or even Day 1 for that matter unless they get close to elimination. Still, this is the sort of gambit that I've discovered is well within T3's wheelhouse so I don't see it as particularly indicative.

Yeah look, if this is just a site meta thing that I don't know about, I'm happy to drop it. Still not pleased with the idea, and will stick to my guns in opposing the idea, but happy enough to go with it if the majority decide to go that route

Sorry, I think I'm just not being clear about this. The tbh tell really only applies way later in the game and if the person is basically spamming it when normally they wouldn't. Think of it as a written tic, the overstated word could be anything but "tbh" is one of the more common ones. If you already use it naturally in your speech patterns then it doesn't mean anything at all, so it wouldn't apply to you.

I think you'll just see as the game goes on. I'm sensing a spicy T3 play and scum might not be happy starting Day 2.

Okay you saying this implies that you

want

tracker to claim d1 f1? If thats true, what do u think the benefit actually is in claiming tracker d1 f1?

I can't answer this unfortunately.

Hmmm Hiding info from town now are we? Idt this is AI and i will probs drop this topic. I do have a question tho; What are your thoughts on the game so far

I trust the site meta on the Tracker claim stuff.

Does this mean you agree that tracker should claim d1?

I'm hiding info from scum actually.

Thoughts on the game so far is that it's going pretty slow and we don't have a town leader pushing the game forward. T3's probably giving us the most content to work with.

[LicketyQuickety]

I think you'll just see as the game goes on. I'm sensing a spicy T3 play and scum might not be happy starting Day 2.

Okay you saying this implies that you

want

tracker to claim d1 f1? If thats true, what do u think the benefit actually is in claiming tracker d1 f1?

I can't answer this unfortunately.

Hmmm Hiding info from town now are we? Idt this is AI and i will probs drop this topic. I do have a question tho; What are your thoughts on the game so far

I trust the site meta on the Tracker claim stuff.

Does this mean you agree that tracker should claim d1?

Yes. Mechanics has never been my thing, but I trust the site meta on this.

[MargotRosa]

Sorry, I think I'm just not being clear about this. The tbh tell really only applies way later in the game and if the person is basically spamming it when normally they wouldn't. Think of it as a written tic, the overstated word could be anything but "tbh" is one of the more common ones. If you already use it naturally in your speech patterns then it doesn't mean anything at all, so it wouldn't apply to you.

I was referring to the plan to out TR early d1. The honestly and tbh stuff I'm not going to drop. That's just being a young aussie woman who's online too much lol

I'm hiding info from scum actually.

Thoughts on the game so far is that it's going pretty slow and we don't have a town leader pushing the game forward. T3's probably giving us the most content to work with.

Not a massive fan of this either. Like, is the plan to slip up newbies based on some site meta stuff?

I have a few sus reads, and I'm still not convinced that T3 isn't behaving in a scummy way. Outing TR d1 is a weird hill to die on

[Roden]

Sorry, I think I'm just not being clear about this. The tbh tell really only applies way later in the game and if the person is basically spamming it when normally they wouldn't. Think of it as a written tic, the overstated word could be anything but "tbh" is one of the more common ones. If you already use it naturally in your speech patterns then it doesn't mean anything at all, so it wouldn't apply to you.

I was referring to the plan to out TR early d1. The honestly and tbh stuff I'm not going to drop. That's just being a young aussie woman who's online too much lol

Ah, whoops.

I'm hiding info from scum actually.

Thoughts on the game so far is that it's going pretty slow and we don't have a town leader pushing the game forward. T3's probably giving us the most content to work with.

Not a massive fan of this either. Like, is the plan to slip up newbies based on some site meta stuff?

I have a few sus reads, and I'm still not convinced that T3 isn't behaving in a scummy way. Outing TR d1 is a weird hill to die on

It's not a site meta thing, no. I don't think power roles should out themselves today, but I don't want scum to know what T3 is going for if he's town.

Also for anyone who hasn't played with T3 before: he almost always fucks around with role claims, no matter his alignment. I just had a newbie game where I was scum and he was town and he fake claimed Mason.

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm hiding info from scum actually.

You literally can't be because otherwise you are a PR and not hiding anything with a comment like this. Else it's just unnecessary WIFOM.

[MargotRosa]

I'm hiding info from scum actually.

You literally can't be because otherwise you are a PR and not hiding anything with a comment like this. Else it's just unnecessary WIFOM.

Agree this is all very odd. That said, so long as the parties involved agree to share what this strategy is after the game ends, I'm happy enough to just let it slide for now

[HockeyFan]

Still on the side of tracker claiming late d1 imo

[Roden]

I'm hiding info from scum actually.

You literally can't be because otherwise you are a PR and not hiding anything with a comment like this. Else it's just unnecessary WIFOM.

This isn't WIFOM lol.

If I'm scum pretending to crumb being a PR and I get wagon'd and forced to claim, then I just get CC'd and town trades one for one. Bad scum play.

If I'm a PR then I get NK'd tonight. Bad town play.

If I'm VT then I'm drawing the NK. Good town play.

Figure out which one I'm doing.

[Roden]

I am definitely hiding info from scum no matter what though because T3 wants to go for a spicy play and I don't think scum understands that yet if he's town. I'm just enabling him, I want to see what happens and I'll be able to sort him from there.

[T3]

T3, 1 question for you. Even if your crackpot theory DOES work, why force claim tracker to claim d1 f1. While I still hate the idea of a PR claiming d1, im more on the side of the tracker claiming late d1, after we've had good discusscion. If your answer is "tracker might get pushed", who cares? By that time, we will hopefully have 2-3 susses and we can just pivot to the 2nd one

That's a good idea.

[T3]

I think you'll just see as the game goes on. I'm sensing a spicy T3 play and scum might not be happy starting Day 2.

Okay you saying this implies that you

want

tracker to claim d1 f1? If thats true, what do u think the benefit actually is in claiming tracker d1 f1?

I can't answer this unfortunately.

Yep Roden is locktown.
SOUL MASONS

[HockeyFan]

I think you'll just see as the game goes on. I'm sensing a spicy T3 play and scum might not be happy starting Day 2.

Okay you saying this implies that you

want

tracker to claim d1 f1? If thats true, what do u think the benefit actually is in claiming tracker d1 f1?

I can't answer this unfortunately.

Yep Roden is locktown.
SOUL MASONS

bruh

Why do u TR people that hold info, still dont get it

[MargotRosa]

I think you'll just see as the game goes on. I'm sensing a spicy T3 play and scum might not be happy starting Day 2.

Okay you saying this implies that you

want

tracker to claim d1 f1? If thats true, what do u think the benefit actually is in claiming tracker d1 f1?

I can't answer this unfortunately.

Yep Roden is locktown.
SOUL MASONS

bruh

Why do u TR people that hold info, still dont get it

[MargotRosa]

I think Roden and T3 could easily be playing mindgames here. Idk. Could go either way.

[HockeyFan]

I think Roden and T3 could easily be playing mindgames here. Idk. Could go either way.

I really want to say they are both town but I'm still hesitant on Tring Roden

[MargotRosa]

Lol actually part of my suspicion was that you

weren't

voting her

Just noticed this. The bloody humanity of it all.

UNVOTE: T3 for now. Still unsure, but I think Roden would have to be in a pair with them for it to make sense at this point, and coming out as a strong pair early d1 would be a wild play

[Umlaut]

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