mini theme 2229: MBOS 13 schweppes' pulpy potions daya 5

[Titus]

The above is for S too with the disclaimer that I haven't reviewed Guardians.

[Titus]

@mod the VC was wrong in that I'm not voting for Titus but now it's right so I guess don't change it?

Fuck this noise. Mod please ensure accurate VCs. No players should advocate for inaccurate VCs. The whole point is they are accurate.

[Fairy Circle]

@mod the VC was wrong in that I'm not voting for Titus but now it's right so I guess don't change it?

Fuck this noise. Mod please ensure accurate VCs. No players should advocate for inaccurate VCs. The whole point is they are accurate.

Seconded, especially if one of us attempts to make sense of votecounts and goes vote diving.

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I find myself in agreement with Titus' T3 read as well, though I wonder if recent events have soured that meta.

-Malefleacent

[T3]

What do you make of T3 individually? I actually think T3 has been fairly town this game. He has a similar presence to the draft game and his conclusions pretty closely match mine. I get that you think he has bad associations with NorDwlee, but is there anything about his individual play you're scumreading?

Disagree. T3 has been hyper serious which is more equal to his scum game than his town game. Compare Situation Room versus Not Quite Normal Multiball.

Most of the conclusions are similar from slot to slot as the game is largely townreading the same block (GCB, Emperor, you, mastina) Midtier (TLDNE, Fairy) and then lurkers/PoE pool.

Each player might add or remove one name or add one name but this is largely consensus. Agreement is not a reason to TR a slot.

Not Quite Normal multiball was an extreme where I joked around and then replaced out. Also, this game was a replace-in [no time for RVS]

[Titus]

What do you make of T3 individually? I actually think T3 has been fairly town this game. He has a similar presence to the draft game and his conclusions pretty closely match mine. I get that you think he has bad associations with NorDwlee, but is there anything about his individual play you're scumreading?

Disagree. T3 has been hyper serious which is more equal to his scum game than his town game. Compare Situation Room versus Not Quite Normal Multiball.

Most of the conclusions are similar from slot to slot as the game is largely townreading the same block (GCB, Emperor, you, mastina) Midtier (TLDNE, Fairy) and then lurkers/PoE pool.

Each player might add or remove one name or add one name but this is largely consensus. Agreement is not a reason to TR a slot.

Not Quite Normal multiball was an extreme where I joked around and then replaced out. Also, this game was a replace-in [no time for RVS]

You also joked in Deco, or was that "an extreme" too?

[schadd_]

@mod: would it be possible for you to generate a potionless sample town pm and a sample town pm with two pain potions and a potion of harmography? If possible, could you generate the same sample pms for scum, redacting non public information as necessary?

sample potionless town PM:

Spoiler:

welcome to mystery box of silver 13! you are a

townie

, however you do not have any potions. to simulate part of the potion drinking experience, we have provided you with a

dangerous crate

full of

cracked and broken potion bottles

. however you are not permitted to do anything with this crate because it is

stolen

from the

Schweppes Broken Potion Bottle Factory

who have a

warrant

.

you win when all threats to the town are eliminated. please confirm by telling me your alignment & promising not to tell Schweppes about the stolen bottles

sample P + P + H town PM:

Spoiler:

welcome to mystery box of silver 13! you are a

townie

with the following inventory of potions:

potion of Harmography:

at night, you may drink this potion and gaze discerningly at another player. come morning, you will find out each player that enacted a potion action to deal damage to them.

ingredients: music :), applesauce (BONE-DRY & TART!!), Pulp, pulp

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night. a player is unable to use more than one Pain potion each night.

ingredients: water, poison, firebones

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night. a player is unable to use more than one Pain potion each night.

ingredients: hibiscus, sorry

you win when all threats to the town are eliminated. please confirm by telling me your alignment & an ingredient to one of your potions

mafia received the same sort of information in a private topic.

[RCEnigma]

Change of plans since I now have a 4 mile walk to work. I'll get a little further during break. So far I've read up to datisi/norwee duking it out, I have opinions there that aren't super important.

But SS pinged me hard by appearing to bring an end to the head to head without coming to any real conclusion as a result where others did (I can only think of emporer off the top of my head). Even though I disagree with where he landed, norwee does come out of it looking better than datisi hydra but I don't think datisi was scummy for the angle.

Anyway I'll be around after my journey maybe.

[RCEnigma]

Also, not to enforce that Titus needs to live through every d1 always for eternity but, Titus being flippant D1 and using it as a free day is on brand and a bad basis for a Titus wagon. If that's not the bolt holding her wagon together feel free to let me know.

[Dwlee99]

The wagon on Titus is because her hero solve was bad.

[T3]

What do you make of T3 individually? I actually think T3 has been fairly town this game. He has a similar presence to the draft game and his conclusions pretty closely match mine. I get that you think he has bad associations with NorDwlee, but is there anything about his individual play you're scumreading?

Disagree. T3 has been hyper serious which is more equal to his scum game than his town game. Compare Situation Room versus Not Quite Normal Multiball.

Most of the conclusions are similar from slot to slot as the game is largely townreading the same block (GCB, Emperor, you, mastina) Midtier (TLDNE, Fairy) and then lurkers/PoE pool.

Each player might add or remove one name or add one name but this is largely consensus. Agreement is not a reason to TR a slot.

Not Quite Normal multiball was an extreme where I joked around and then replaced out. Also, this game was a replace-in [no time for RVS]

You also joked in Deco, or was that "an extreme" too?

No.
Point is, I replaced into this game on page 20 when RVS was over, so I immediately started solving.

[NorwegianboyEE]

RCEnigma replaces ta vera

Wow, it’s been hella fortnights. Welcome to the game.

Thanks!

It's been awhile so I might be slow getting back into the swing of things. Also just waking up so I have other priorities but reading up will happen tonight/tomorrow, I'm like halfway through.

Wooo RCE it’s been forevahh

[RCEnigma]

The wagon on Titus is because her hero solve was bad.

Bad in what way?

[RCEnigma]

RCEnigma replaces ta vera

Wow, it’s been hella fortnights. Welcome to the game.

Thanks!

It's been awhile so I might be slow getting back into the swing of things. Also just waking up so I have other priorities but reading up will happen tonight/tomorrow, I'm like halfway through.

Wooo RCE it’s been forevahh

I joined with the sole goal of pocketing you, don't let me down.

[Dwlee99]

The wagon on Titus is because her hero solve was bad.

Bad in what way?

Wrong and forced

[Bingle]

Oh, weird. I assumed the potions had a constant ingredients list based on the OP.

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

er, no. the ingredients lists literally have zero impact on the game. honestly I’m confused how you can have an ingredient without a potion.. but then none of this is making much sense to me.

- lilith

[Dwlee99]

Oh, weird. I assumed the potions had a constant ingredients list based on the OP.

I also thought that the potions had constant ingredients but I didn't cross check with the OP.

[Bingle]

er, no. the ingredients lists literally have zero impact on the game. honestly I’m confused how you can have an ingredient without a potion.. but then none of this is making much sense to me.

- lilith

The sample potionless role PM matches mine except I got poison as an ingredient instead of a stolen crate. Poison is included as an ingredient in the Harmography potion (and only the harmography potion) in the OP. That's why I thought there might be a way to combine ingredients into potions.

[Bingle]

Disagree. T3 has been hyper serious which is more equal to his scum game than his town game. Compare Situation Room versus Not Quite Normal Multiball.

T3 was a similar level of serious in both Open Draft and Townstumps to here, both of which you were in and were more recent than NQNMulti. Both are also a better simulation of this game, being, you know, not multiball.

SRoom is the scum game I'm comparing my T3 baseline to, and he was both less active and didn't leave me with townfeels. His play was kinda just meh.

It's not impossible T3 is scum, but he's definitely not my choice of elimination AORN.

[Titus]

Disagree. T3 has been hyper serious which is more equal to his scum game than his town game. Compare Situation Room versus Not Quite Normal Multiball.

T3 was a similar level of serious in both Open Draft and Townstumps to here, both of which you were in and were more recent than NQNMulti. Both are also a better simulation of this game, being, you know, not multiball.

SRoom is the scum game I'm comparing my T3 baseline to, and he was both less active and didn't leave me with townfeels. His play was kinda just meh.

It's not impossible T3 is scum, but he's definitely not my choice of elimination AORN.

It's ok if T3 isn't the top choice. Order doesn't matter. We can only eliminate one scum. Once we do, scum will be in one hell of a catch 22.

[Titus]

I also feel T3's attempt to fuck up the VCs was scummy as hell.

[Fairy Circle]

The wagon on Titus is because her hero solve was bad.

Bad in what way?

Wrong and forced

Have you played with Titus before now? This is literally screaming townTitus

er, no. the ingredients lists literally have zero impact on the game. honestly I’m confused how you can have an ingredient without a potion.. but then none of this is making much sense to me.

- lilith

The sample potionless role PM matches mine except I got poison as an ingredient instead of a stolen crate. Poison is included as an ingredient in the Harmography potion (and only the harmography potion) in the OP. That's why I thought there might be a way to combine ingredients into potions.

Personally I would consider the ingredients to be little more than flavour (Shush Datisi) - poisons have been used in restoratives for quite some time. My LARP system makes a point of the Church of Life and Church of Justice being specifically unable to use a physicians poison except when used to heal.

-Malefleacent

[The Emperor]

I never used the word "useful".

Well, I don't understand what Dwlee would expect to gain by giving the appearance of engaging uselessly.

-S

All of your posts feel weird to me. Like you're choosing to talk about things that matter very little.

Have you played with -S before?

[RCEnigma]

I also feel T3's attempt to fuck up the VCs was scummy as hell.

You're in too deep Titus.

[The Emperor]

Also, lilith's seeming disinterest this game is worrying, I'm used to

more

from her

?? who are you

I've seen a couple of your town games and you were far more productive by this point with the cutlery. Although you also were the one time I saw you roll scum tbf.

I feel pretty good about norwee town. that's all I've got so far. going to sleep now.

- lilith

I dunno how this is your only real take thus far though. Like normally I'd say this is on average towny since it's very easy to fake reads most of the time if you really want to, but I think there's been plenty of good content this game to get a lot more than this, so it's a little baffling