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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:36 am

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In post 20, Zyla wrote:
In post 17, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 16, HockeyFan wrote:no? If we get Player X and Player Y. and Player x's role is innocent, and they get a true result, they will be annouced as town. However, lets say we roll a 6 on the 1VX(number of mafia), Players Y's role will be announced as town even if they are mafia so we do we really have confirms? I could just be stupid
Wont X elimination confirms that Y result was untrue.

Elimination does reveal their rule faction isn't it?
If X gets eliminated, it confirms that X's result was true, it does *not* confirm that Y's result was false.
Since "X is innocent" is true, that means that "X is innocent or ..." is true regardless of what comes after the or

My only question is what happens if both results are false
We are complicating it. It is simple

D1 reveals the identity of two players - One of it is True and the other is false. Eliminate one and the other gets confirmed.
In post 30, HockeyFan wrote:N_M is town
Too soon to say!
In post 31, cyrus62 wrote:T3 is scum
Way too soon to speculate!
In post 32, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 31, cyrus62 wrote:T3 is scum
I was going to say this but he has to roll town in at least one game right? :^). or idk he could be scum for voting N_M the locktowned
The possibility of a rolling town is more than rolling scum.
In post 37, goats wrote:my rat died the other week.
What? Is there context to this?
In post 48, goats wrote:maybe shouldn't spam submit, no wonder it was lagging
Okay.

VOTE: goals

We got a cow for this, no need of a goat.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:25 am

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before yall start pushing me im not that active this time cause im also moding.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:26 am

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so i think arc and t3 are scum together.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:45 am

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In post 50, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 20, Zyla wrote:
In post 17, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 16, HockeyFan wrote:no? If we get Player X and Player Y. and Player x's role is innocent, and they get a true result, they will be annouced as town. However, lets say we roll a 6 on the 1VX(number of mafia), Players Y's role will be announced as town even if they are mafia so we do we really have confirms? I could just be stupid
Wont X elimination confirms that Y result was untrue.

Elimination does reveal their rule faction isn't it?
If X gets eliminated, it confirms that X's result was true, it does *not* confirm that Y's result was false.
Since "X is innocent" is true, that means that "X is innocent or ..." is true regardless of what comes after the or

My only question is what happens if both results are false
We are complicating it. It is simple

D1 reveals the identity of two players - One of it is True and the other is false. Eliminate one and the other gets confirmed.
In post 30, HockeyFan wrote:N_M is town
Too soon to say!
In post 31, cyrus62 wrote:T3 is scum
Way too soon to speculate!
In post 32, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 31, cyrus62 wrote:T3 is scum
I was going to say this but he has to roll town in at least one game right? :^). or idk he could be scum for voting N_M the locktowned
The possibility of a rolling town is more than rolling scum.
In post 37, goats wrote:my rat died the other week.
What? Is there context to this?
In post 48, goats wrote:maybe shouldn't spam submit, no wonder it was lagging
Okay.

VOTE: goals

We got a cow for this, no need of a goat.
This whole post is ew imo. Its a bunch of discrediting of reads because "iTs tOO eArLy"
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:49 am

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VOTE: arcangel
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:19 am

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In post 50, ArcAngel9 wrote:D1 reveals the identity of two players - One of it is True and the other is false. Eliminate one and the other gets confirmed.
Nono, one is true, the other is
possibly
false
Specifically, the one we get tomorrow will have a 3/8 chance of rolling guilty, regardless of whether or not they are
(I'm assuming we can't do a no-lim because that would break this setup in a couple of nights)
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:08 am

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VOTE: goates
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:19 am

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Official Vote Count 1.02
EliminationWith 9 alive, 5 votes are required for elimination.

goats
(2): ArcAngel9, T3
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(1): MegAzumarill
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(1): Zyla
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(1): cyrus62


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(3): goats, imaginality, HockeyFan

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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:58 am

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In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
In post 56, T3 wrote:VOTE: goates
T3 what are you doing and why are you like this. I dont understand the pattern of your votes
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:45 pm

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In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:27 pm

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In post 59, Zyla wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:57 pm

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In post 55, Zyla wrote:
In post 50, ArcAngel9 wrote:D1 reveals the identity of two players - One of it is True and the other is false. Eliminate one and the other gets confirmed.
Nono, one is true, the other is
possibly
false
Specifically, the one we get tomorrow will have a 3/8 chance of rolling guilty, regardless of whether or not they are
(I'm assuming we can't do a no-lim because that would break this setup in a couple of nights)
2/8 if we elim scum.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:59 pm

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Oh yeah. I don't think I've ever actually managed to hit scum first time so I forgot it was possible xD
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:28 pm

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In post 60, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 59, Zyla wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with
I think that's called a mind meld.do you also feel t3 is bad?
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:33 pm

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In post 63, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 60, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 59, Zyla wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with
I think that's called a mind meld.do you also feel t3 is bad?
T3 is doing ....... t3 things so everything hes doing is NAI as of now. I still dont understand the vote swapping, but again its t3 and no one ever understands him
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:42 pm

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Truth is when scum hunting I try to look for who isn't helping advanced the game and is just posting to post. Or is trying to seem townier then every one else.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:38 am

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In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
In post 56, T3 wrote:VOTE: goates
T3 what are you doing and why are you like this. I dont understand the pattern of your votes
tbh i just want to sppedlim someone so we can get to the mech stuf.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:39 am

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In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
In post 56, T3 wrote:VOTE: goates
T3 what are you doing and why are you like this. I dont understand the pattern of your votes
I know exactly what alignment cyrus is but we don't want to do anything with him yet.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:07 am

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In post 52, cyrus62 wrote:so i think arc and t3 are scum together.
I have a better theory. I think you and hockey are scum together!

In post 60, HockeyFan wrote:
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php? p=12940279#p12940279]post 59[/url], Zyla wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with
So what part of what i said was scummy?
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=12940490#p12940490]post 62[/url], Zyla wrote:Oh yeah. I don't think I've ever actually managed to hit scum first time so I forgot it was possible xD
Happens but rarely!
In post 63, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 60, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 59, Zyla wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with
I think that's called a mind meld.do you also feel t3 is bad?
Having mid meld together!! More reasons to believe that i might be right about both of your scum partnership!
In post 65, cyrus62 wrote:Truth is when scum hunting I try to look for who isn't helping advanced the game and is just posting to post. Or is trying to seem townier then every one else.
This is a wrong tell.. there are plenty of town players who just lurk and play lousy. And i have seen more competent active players who outplay town players.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:55 am

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In post 67, T3 wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
In post 56, T3 wrote:VOTE: goates
T3 what are you doing and why are you like this. I dont understand the pattern of your votes
I know exactly what alignment cyrus is but we don't want to do anything with him yet.
Mate what, you 2 scum partners?
In post 68, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 52, cyrus62 wrote:so i think arc and t3 are scum together.
I have a better theory. I think you and hockey are scum together!

In post 60, HockeyFan wrote:
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php? p=12940279#p12940279]post 59[/url], Zyla wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with
So what part of what i said was scummy?.
I said earlier that post was mainly trying to discredit's peoples early reads(such as T3 scum, N_M town e.tc)
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:34 am

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In post 69, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 67, T3 wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
In post 56, T3 wrote:VOTE: goates
T3 what are you doing and why are you like this. I dont understand the pattern of your votes
I know exactly what alignment cyrus is but we don't want to do anything with him yet.
Mate what, you 2 scum partners?
In post 68, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 52, cyrus62 wrote:so i think arc and t3 are scum together.
I have a better theory. I think you and hockey are scum together!

In post 60, HockeyFan wrote:
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php? p=12940279#p12940279]post 59[/url], Zyla wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with
So what part of what i said was scummy?.
I said earlier that post was mainly trying to discredit's peoples early reads(such as T3 scum, N_M town e.tc)
I can read cyrus very well.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:35 am

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In post 67, T3 wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
In post 56, T3 wrote:VOTE: goates
T3 what are you doing and why are you like this. I dont understand the pattern of your votes
I know exactly what alignment cyrus is but we don't want to do anything with him yet
.
This last sentence makes me think T3 scum cyrus town.
T3, can you explain what you meant by that sentence?

P-edit: so do you think cyrus is town? Or scum?
In post 69, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 68, ArcAngel wrote:
So what part of what i said was scummy?.
I said earlier that post was mainly trying to discredit's peoples early reads(such as T3 scum, N_M town e.tc)
I agree with this, at best it seemed like a big post to say essentially nothing (except for the idea that eliminating one investigation target confirms the other, which definitely isn't true in most cases).
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:41 am

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Won't say.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:45 am

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In post 68, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 52, cyrus62 wrote:so i think arc and t3 are scum together.
I have a better theory. I think you and hockey are scum together!


This seems omgussy?
In post 68, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 60, HockeyFan wrote:
Having mid meld together!! More reasons to believe that i might be right about both of your scum partnership!


I don't think a scum pairing would openly say they're mind melding? Seems more like something they wouldn't want to comment on.
In post 68, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 65, cyrus62 wrote:Truth is when scum hunting I try to look for who isn't helping advanced the game and is just posting to post. Or is trying to seem townier then every one else.
This is a wrong tell.. there are plenty of town players who just lurk and play lousy. And i have seen more competent active players who outplay town players.
'not advancing the game' isn't the same as lurking (the latter is a subset of the former). Posts like your "it's too early!" #53 don't exactly advance the game either.

I think Cyrus's approach is a useful one especially early game.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:53 am

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In post 72, T3 wrote:Won't say.
VOTE: T3

This 'I have a read but I won't tell you it yet' seems anti-town. Seems like keeping it unspoken means you can wait to see whether others lean cyrus:town or cyrus:scum so you can then say that's what your read was too.
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