Newbie 2074 | Game Over

[StrangeMatter]

Hm. Can you give a compelling case to me why it could be Val89 then?

[Ythan]

..........

I said it's you and I've been saying it's you. But if you flip town then by progress of elimination it is OBVIOUSLY VAL FROM MY PERSPECTIVE

[Ythan]

Process* in case everything obvious has to be made solici explicit

[Ythan]

Lol fuck

[StrangeMatter]

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I said it's you and I've been saying it's you. But if you flip town then by progress of elimination it is OBVIOUSLY VAL FROM MY PERSPECTIVE

And obviously I know you're wrong and I will flip town. And I'm saying process of elimination in ELO is practically worthless as an argument for Day 4.

[StrangeMatter]

To me it sounds like you were planning on eliminating me, and look into Val89's slot later from what it sounds like.

[Ythan]

I think you're scum you daft clown.

[StrangeMatter]

And while I used POE, there's a difference between narrowing everything down to one slot and having only one other slot if you get what I mean.

[StrangeMatter]

I think you're scum you daft clown.

And that's fine that you think that, but that just needed to be pointed out to me.

[StrangeMatter]

Going to bed, see you all tomorrow.

[Ythan]

I think you're scum you daft clown.

And that's fine that you think that, but that just needed to be pointed out to me.

It has been repeatedly. Why are you still yammering.

[Ythan]

I seriously don't see any purpose in the things you're saying to me at all.

[Ythan]

Sorry for being terse. Refer to my previous post and if that doesn't help imagine it's in all caps. Still sorry tough.

[Dannflor]

Ive only flipped a half dozen times but warming up to ythan then SM. Does scum!val defend gamma the way he did yesterday knowing he would flip red?

I am also warming up to Val as my most confident townie here

[Dannflor]

I'm on the fence tho about SM and Ythan

I think SM has been generally scummy but Gamma's read on SM still bugs me

Leaven you've been generally hesitant to go after SM, is there something you town read there?

[Leaven]

Only that it can only be 1 of them lol. Im good with ythan and SM.

[StrangeMatter]

I'm on the fence tho about SM and Ythan

I think SM has been generally scummy but Gamma's read on SM still bugs me.

What about that bugs you again?

[Dannflor]

well it bugs me because it doesn't read like a partnery read

he just repeatedly says he has good *vibes* on you, which in my experience tends to read more like he's scum that *knows* you're town and doesn't have to justify it because of that info

[Dannflor]

and that would point towards you being town if I put stock in that

[Val89]

Something I didn't give much thought over, given I was pretty sure Dann was scum coming in to today is why CLSR?

I thought Dann was more likley scum rather than the Doc, despite what he was throwing at me, because I thought it pretty unlikely they wouldn't have NKd Dann on N2 if he wasn't town since scum were obviously wanting to take out the Doc on N2.

I've been looking, and I don't see a reason why scum would start think CLSR was more likley to be the doc. Maybe they took the "we are in C1" business as some sort of attempt to deflect from fact they knew it was actually A1, but Dann endorsed the same, and if scum were looking at that through those eyes, I think they would have figured Dann was softing doc there, so that doesn't work.

So, I'm wondering what other reason there is to pick CSLR there. He was scumreading me early on D2, but before the Gamma guilty, he has also said "Val maybe town" and was also pretty clear he didn't think Gamma/Val was a thing. He was also townreading Ythan pretty hard, to the degree I was starting to get a bit sus of him. He ended the day with his vote on SM.

Conclusion: it looks to me like the CLSR kill is pointing to SM, although I wonder if its a bit too obvious. He was certainly the biggest threat to a scum!SM.

[Dannflor]

VOTE: StrangeMatter

[Leaven]

And we're good with ythan tomorrow?

[StrangeMatter]

Considering I’m going to be eliminated, I’d like to say that I think Val might fit under that person who could be scum adjusting to how the game is being played. If you look at his posts, he makes a post about me and saying to not answer, then later makes a statement that goes along with people deciding on voting for me obviously while covering for themselves like they could know I would flip town today.

Ythan saying POE to me about Val89 reads like he is focused on me being scum, and I’m not too sure yet about his alignment but my gut and past experiences say Town usually does that more often.

[Dannflor]

UNVOTE:

val why did you opt for self-voting over trying to show that you are town?

[Val89]

Even if he flips a coin on [Ythan] v SM, then 50/50 still looks like better odds of a town win then the alternative; which is that I am 90% sure he votes for me and loses.

Thinking about the CLSR kill (and some of StrangeMatters recent posts) have opened that margin up in favour of SM; I took the view (and basically still do) that Leaven flipping 50/50 on Ythan v SM gives better odds to town than the 90/10 he mislimmed me it looked like it would be if it came down to Me V Ythan, or Me V SM. I admit some of his recent postings indicate he might not be so sure about me being scum after all, which changes the calculus somewhat.

I still think you should vote me, and Leaven should hammer once he has thrashed out with you who he votes for between Ythan V SM tomorrow. I have a slight preference for StrangeMatter, currently.

It seems recent posting by SM is indicating they think I am just the final scum here; and I am starting to think the same about them. I wonder if they would be interested in putting their money where there mouth is and just vote me. Given what they are saying, they think the game just ends with my lim; so why not?