Newbie 2074 | Game Over

[Nahdia]

Vote Count 3.03

Now playing... The Crane Wives

StrangeMatter (1):

Ythan,

Dannflor

Val89 (1):

Val89

Not Voting (3):

StrangeMatter, Leaven,

Dannflor

, Dannflor

Deadline is in

(expired on 2021-08-15 01:45:00)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With five players alive, it takes

three

to reach majority.

Note:

Bleh.

[Val89]

he makes a post about me and saying to not answer,

Would you care to indicate where I do this?

[Val89]

over trying to show that you are town?

I don't think that's a realistic objective. Trying to show you are town is exactly what scum is trying to do, here. What is in my power is making sure that Leaven doesn't make a game losing mistake - which is to lim me tomorrow, rather than today.

If Leaven was to townlock me and resolve to elim Ythan and SM in either order, excellent; gg; town wins 100%. But that also happens to be the exact route to a scum!Val victory, so he could never fully trust that. I consider my life expendable if it reduces the chance of a game-losing mislim on D4.

I am slowly warming up to the idea of just 1v1ing SM here; I would be more than happy to go first, today, and him tomorrow; as demonstrated by self-vote. If he is town, and they really do just think I am the remain scum, and they are basically the remaining player shading my slot, I don't see why they would have a problem with voting the player you think is scummiest and will just end the game today.

[StrangeMatter]

VOTE: Val89

The place where you said Leaven should not answer until I explained in #919 because I would according to you need to do this as scum.

[Val89]

So, I didn't make a post about you and said not to answer then, did I?

YOU made a post about YOURSELF, trying to get Leaven to explain his read on YOU; which I advised Leaven not to answer, because I don't see why town needs to know that, but scum definetly did. That's something I stand by.

[Val89]

Dannflorr, Leaven, Ythan; one of you hammer me.

Leaven: Vote SM tomorrow. I'm now much more certain he is scum.

[Ythan]

I still feel like I should be telling you not to do this but if you're not somehow expecting to get out of this you're obviously town, and we are going to win.

[Val89]

It's true I'm betting the game on you not being scum if Leaven listens to me, but frankly, the razorthin margin I had on SM being scum has widened to about 75/25, and without some sort of major slip - which I think is unlikley with about 36 hours left and the pace this game has slowed down to, I think that's about as sure as I can get here.

If it makes you more confortable, don't hammer me - let Leaven do it. In that case, he was always likley to vote me over the actual scum and it was a lost game anyway if he did that tomorrow, but if he does it today, it might well not be.

[StrangeMatter]

Dannflorr, Leaven, Ythan; one of you hammer me.

Leaven: Vote SM tomorrow. I'm now much more certain he is scum.

Excuse me? Why would you want to be eliminated if you’re certain I am scum then hammer me. We’re both at E-1.

[Val89]

It's true you put me at an unannounced E-1; but you aren't at E-1 yourself, as you well know.

Bad faith increases.

You've made quite a few of these sort of mistakes this game, no?

[StrangeMatter]

Actually this is kind of unrelated but also related but me just being bad at remembering votes is kind of due to how I used to have a machine constantly counting votes and keeping me updated as a part of the game.

[Val89]

Oh I see, I made a mistake here. At least one of you two are scum in my eyes if it is option 1.

Wait I didn't read Ythan's post and thought Dann was putting Gamma at E-1 but that's my bad.

I just looked again and realized it was Leaven who was voted not Gamma. I hate when I read things incorrectly.

I read the count wrong, but here's what I thought.

if you’re certain I am scum then hammer me. We’re both at E-1.

Forgive if I don't believe all these are legitimate mistakes. Even if you are used to have a constantly updated vote count, the most up to date Vote count is literally right up there, and nobody has voted since apart from your unannouced E-1.

You would think you would be more careful about this after being burnt by that twice already, wouldn't you? Bad faith. 100%.

[StrangeMatter]

Yes, I would. Also warming up to you vs me is just odd because at this point I’m scumread by basically everyone anyways. Like I don’t stand a chance to win in ELO and everyone shouldn’t need me to say that.

[StrangeMatter]

So just vote me and save this trainwreck I made instead of bringing the obvious scummy person in anyways.

[StrangeMatter]

*into ELo.

[Val89]

So just vote me and save this trainwreck I made instead of bringing the obvious scummy person in anyways.

So, you are going for my strategy, but without the voting for yourself, is that what we take from that?

[StrangeMatter]

Nope, I just don’t want to be in ELo. it’s better than having someone like me stay in this game which scum would absolutely want.

[Val89]

You realise the self-vote is the important part of making sure you don't get to ELO, right?

Without it, it's reads very much like you are trying to pick up towncred off the back of me doing my best to get out of the way of the ELO without actually following through on it.

I get more and more sure every time SM posts.

[StrangeMatter]

I don’t care if I you think I stole your “strategy”.

If you’re getting more sure I am scum, then go ahead. I don’t care about anyone’s TR, nobody WILL Val.

VOTE: Strangematter

[Val89]

VOTE: StrangeMatter

[StrangeMatter]

You think people will just be like “oh I think Strange is town because of this.” Because it’s NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

[Val89]

Good game, anyhow.

[StrangeMatter]

Finally. You think you’ll be right but you’re not.

[StrangeMatter]

Good luck in ELo everyone. You’ll need it.

[StrangeMatter]

Complete trainwreck of a game, and I should just NEVER try to learn how to defend myself.