Elaborate on your gut read on me? First I'm hearing of itIn post 719, Toogeloo wrote:Hectic and Pavowski are still where I'm leaning. Maybe Vulture instead of Hectic, but I don't feel as strongly there, though Hectic and Pav are just gut reads anyways. Spend some time looking at T3's iso if it helps you eliminate some possible misfires.
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Here's a simple exercise:
I've quoted two posts from different times with similar circumstances. Galron the gunbearer asks Pav why he's town. Galron the gunbearer tells marci she has 24 hours.
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Do you see the difference; and which is from town, and which is from scum? One is rather nonchalant and almost dismissive, the person isn't overly concerned with being shot because hey, they'll get the gun.
The other writes a wall trying their best to change the gunbearer's mind, since being shot = DEATH.
Additionally, Pav's situation isn't even Galron threating to shoot him or intent, yet Pav tried his utmost best to sway Galron from shooting him. Sure, he claims it's because he's not confident in his reads, but the survivalistic mindset is very scum-indicative.
Btw I've bolded parts in that post that felt very off- Toogeloo
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You seem more passive aggressive and generally unconfident than I have seen you in the past.In post 725, Hectic wrote:Elaborate on your gut read on me? First I'm hearing of it- Hectic
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Oh, and [post=pichu]pichu[/post] lol, how could I forget
Yeah, I can see why you'd have that impression actually. I just ramp up the aggression and confidence for versus games- Hectic
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You're making 2 mistakes here.In post 726, Hectic wrote:Do you see the difference; and which is from town, and which is from scum? One is rather nonchalant and almost dismissive, the person isn't overly concerned with being shot because hey, they'll get the gun.
The other writes a wall trying their best to change the gunbearer's mind, since being shot = DEATH.
1 you're assuming a scum flip from me which is not coming no matter how convinced you may be (but I've been there this game, I can relate) (if you're town of course but less and less I think this is possible)
2 you're assuming I shouldn't care if I get shot. Well, then as now I don't want to get shot because every villager shot puts us closer to a loss, and then as now if I get shot on this round the game is on my shoulders for the subsequent shot. Not a situation I want to yawn my way into.- Pavowski
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Can you talk to me about your Hectic read?In post 719, Toogeloo wrote:Hectic and Pavowski are still where I'm leaning. Maybe Vulture instead of Hectic, but I don't feel as strongly there, though Hectic and Pav are just gut reads anyways. Spend some time looking at T3's iso if it helps you eliminate some possible misfires.I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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Don't think I have been asked that in this game.In post 733, Vulture wrote:Hmm.
Might have been asked this before but Pav, what would you be doing as scum right now?
I'd probably be trying to poke holes in the towncred of anybody being correctly townread
And generally trying to muddy the waters for the gunbearer's shot
Or maybe just hanging back while the loud voices in the room joust against each other
Not sure how I'd be playing it to be honest, it would depend who my partners were and who's town.- Enchant
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1. I didn't care.In post 732, Pavowski wrote:Hey Enchant. How do you feel about the Marci flip? Who would you shoot? What did you have for breakfast? Give us something.
2. Depends how many misshots we all have. If 1+, i would shot most townie player here. Simple to screw over possible mafia who could carry win like that or give gun to competent guy. If 0, well... random.org. Not even joking, i mostly win when shoting on random and fail when use reads.
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Literally 7 posts before you asked this, to which Hectic replied over 3 posts.In post 734, Lukewarm wrote:Can you talk to me about your Hectic read?- Lukewarm
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Yeah, I was reading in order, and asked before I got there.In post 737, Toogeloo wrote:
Literally 7 posts before you asked this, to which Hectic replied over 3 posts.In post 734, Lukewarm wrote:Can you talk to me about your Hectic read?I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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My suggestion to Marci is to ignore people directing their shot and to iso dive T3. Try and eliminate who is likely town from T3's posts, then use their gut on the remaining slots. Shooting someone town read is fine for deep wolf shenanigans, but this is the last opportunity we can do it where risk vs reward isn't at it's worst.
Try to remember that from the perspective of anyone who is still town other than Marci, that 50% of the remaining players are scum. They will be pushing each other to look more town, almost assuredly, so people saying who their "top 3" scumspects are (myself included) should be ignored and just do your best to solve based on the information we have, which is not terrible since we have one flipped mafia already.- marcistar
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yes sirIn post 698, Lukewarm wrote:I think I have been talked about Vulture a bit before this, do you want me to go back over him?
hectic x luke pog??In post 703, Hectic wrote:I would still strongly lean to shooting Pav over Lukewarm after seeing these recent posts
you like did it too fastIn post 706, Galron wrote:I did not like her response to my intent and didn't answer me on scumcasing vulture before I pulled the trigger.
what does this mean what if i dont trust u the most hehe <3In post 707, Hectic wrote:marci, IguessI don't mind getting shot but you should shoot Pav first if you want that sweet sweet cred smh
what if i shoot uIn post 718, Toogeloo wrote:Galron is right that this is the final chance to shoot someone townread on the suspicion that they are deepwolfing. The best shot is still your gut though, Marci.
toogeloo x vulture pog??In post 719, Toogeloo wrote:Hectic and Pavowski are still where I'm leaning. Maybe Vulture instead of Hectic, but I don't feel as strongly there, though Hectic and Pav are just gut reads anyways.
gib ur team predictionIn post 720, Pavowski wrote:That said, I was wrong about you Marci, my bad.
toogeloo x vulture x pavowski pog??In post 722, Pavowski wrote:
I've been weakly gutreading Toog as town recently but this just feels so town to me. If scum this is basically just taking a dice rollIn post 718, Toogeloo wrote:Galron is right that this is the final chance to shoot someone townread on the suspicion that they are deepwolfing. The best shot is still your gut though, Marci.
its fine bestie, when u get back give me ur top 4 reasons on why i shouldnt shoot u thoIn post 724, Vulture wrote:Prodded. Don’t feel great IRL, so motivation isn’t the best. Sorry, Marci.
what if pavowski just didnt want a misshoot to happen smhsmhIn post 726, Hectic wrote:Additionally, Pav's situation isn't even Galron threating to shoot him or intent, yet Pav tried his utmost best to sway Galron from shooting him. Sure, he claims it's because he's not confident in his reads, but the survivalistic mindset is very scum-indicative.
why didnt u care..? didnt u have a townread on me?In post 736, Enchant wrote:
1. I didn't care.In post 732, Pavowski wrote:Hey Enchant. How do you feel about the Marci flip? Who would you shoot? What did you have for breakfast? Give us something.
toogeloobestie, can u explain to me why i should shoot [the players u scumread] instead of just shooting u rn?- Toogeloo
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Uh, I don't care if you shoot me. I've wanted the gun since the game started. I'm willing to lose the game if I shoot wrong and want to test my ability to hipfire.
I mean, you do whatever, but I'm not about to try and convince you not to shoot me. If you are WIFOMing over to shoot me because of that, well, welcome to the game and why you should be ignoring what people tell to do.- Toogeloo
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Why i should?In post 740, marcistar wrote: why didnt u care..? didnt u have a townread on me?- HockeyFan
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Really difficult but I'll do my best.In post 740, marcistar wrote:gib ur team prediction
My elim pool is Luke, Hectic, Vulture, and Enchant right this second. Hockey seems unlikely and Toog is gutpinging me hard as town over their recent posts.
Problem is I don't see a ton of scum equity among those 4, although this setup doesn't necessarily lend itself to the scum team showing a lot of equity. I also have a hard time thinking Luke and Hectic could be teamed, though I don't think I could articulate a good reason for that.
So... Enchant, Vulture, Luke/Hectic.
I go back and forth on Hectic. On one hand I feel like he's reading me unfavorably at almost every opportunity to try and get me shot. On the other he could be genuinely scum hunting and I just look bad for him. I know I was all gung-ho shoot Hectic this morning but honestly he's still one that could flip either way and not surprise me at all. (I double-talk myself a lot, which is probably the source of most of the scumreads against me, but I am what I am.)
Gun to head, I'd shoot Hectic over Luke. Ask me again in a couple hours and that could change.
But tomorrow's Saturday so I'm planning to re-read the game and see if my gutfeels line up with a look back.- Pavowski
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Yea I didnt mean to mean it that way, Its just that A. im in other games B. This game feels stale cuz I have my Sr's pretty much locked in. Maybe i have a conf bias on you(pav), but I think you're scum regardless. Hectic tunneling this makes me TR hectic a bit less tho so ehhh maybe things could change but i think notIn post 745, Pavowski wrote:This is off topic, but we now have 3 players who have openly expressed reluctance to play/post due to not holding the gun and I just don't get it, I think this setup is fascinating. But to each their own!Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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