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[Gamma Emerald]

And the vote count said it all. T3 and nw and mega were all on Nero all day yesterday gamma was on him too.

So? I don’t think Nero is scum anymore.

[LicketyQuickety]

And the vote count said it all. T3 and nw and mega were all on Nero all day yesterday gamma was on him too.

So? I don’t think Nero is scum anymore.

Why not?

[Nero Cain]

A50 is low-key useless as town

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn't push Norway...

No your right . Can every one take a look at the vote count from yesterday. And you will see t3 and nw stayed on Nero . Nw went back and fourth on gamma and Nero . And both got close to being flipped but then Nero ended up being the last one to vote t3 besides t3s self hammer.

What the-
I swear there must be some mixed up names here because otherwise cyrus is straight up driving a narrative of lies

[Gamma Emerald]

And the vote count said it all. T3 and nw and mega were all on Nero all day yesterday gamma was on him too.

So? I don’t think Nero is scum anymore.

Why not?

I don’t think he acts this bullheaded as scum

[Gamma Emerald]

How is it 50/50?

How many times can you role town in a row if it's all random . It's like a dice you throw it 6 times what's the cance of rolling 1?

This is not how probability works

you would have a 36% chance of hitting 1

. As I said I'm not bothering with dw he can be whatever this game. I'm sure before the games over I will know. Poe Nero gamma a50 and lick

NO YOU WOULDN’T????
My dude you are coming off as borderline senile with how poor your grasp of probability is!

[Gamma Emerald]

If I'm scum then you're definitely scum Nero.

Cyrus, Norwee hard defended Nero. The wagons aren't always the best way to catch up because they are snippets that can miss what is actually happening in the game.

When Nero kills he aims at people who town read or defend him. Less of a chance people will expect him then.

Source???

[Gamma Emerald]

So this is dw and my 6th game 3 of them is town 2 of them is scum so there's a50/50 chance he is scum. So I'm just not going to bother till later.

That is the Gambler's Fallacy.

It’s not even that, it’s just WRONG.

[Roden]

Dwlee had no response to my read on them besides "that's meta" and "I didn't hop wagons" which uh, isn't a particularly solid rebuttal.

So are you scum

That was your case but I don't expect you to remember if you're red.

I'm not scum. Do you think I am?

Ngl if I had a red PM you'd be the first NK. Nothing against you personally, but we've butted heads in the other two games we had, and I wouldn't keep someone around who I know is going to scum read me and is generally difficult to vote out.

[Gamma Emerald]

A50 is low-key useless as town

Okay so why were you pushing him earlier?

[LicketyQuickety]

And the vote count said it all. T3 and nw and mega were all on Nero all day yesterday gamma was on him too.

So? I don’t think Nero is scum anymore.

Why not?

I don’t think he acts this bullheaded as scum

He might act more bullheaded as Scum...

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee had no response to my read on them besides "that's meta" and "I didn't hop wagons" which uh, isn't a particularly solid rebuttal.

So are you scum

That was your case but I don't expect you to remember if you're red.

I'm not scum. Do you think I am?

Ngl if I had a red PM you'd be the first NK. Nothing against you personally, but we've butted heads in the other two games we had, and I wouldn't keep someone around who I know is going to scum read me and is generally difficult to vote out.

I don't get why you framed my rebuttal as "not a rebuttal" when your case was a meta tell + wagon hopping. What am I not rebutting?

[Nero Cain]

A50 is low-key useless as town

Okay so why were you pushing him earlier?

I thought he was scummy earlier

[Roden]

Dwlee had no response to my read on them besides "that's meta" and "I didn't hop wagons" which uh, isn't a particularly solid rebuttal.

So are you scum

That was your case but I don't expect you to remember if you're red.

I'm not scum. Do you think I am?

Ngl if I had a red PM you'd be the first NK. Nothing against you personally, but we've butted heads in the other two games we had, and I wouldn't keep someone around who I know is going to scum read me and is generally difficult to vote out.

I don't get why you framed my rebuttal as "not a rebuttal" when your case was a meta tell + wagon hopping. What am I not rebutting?

I don't really consider it a meta tell tbh, it's vibes. It feels like you're a lot more assertive this game and you don't seem content with just sheeping Nero. The wagon hopping is something Gamma actually mentioned first, but I thought was worth mentioning since you had the safe middle of the pack votes when you were wagon hopping.

The wagon hopping looks bad specifically because you were on Gamma, who was going to be the Day 1 elim, and then told everyone to hop on T3's wagon after claiming he was scum due to an accurate meta tell. Which, yeah, that was obviously completely wrong now and comes off as scummy since you notably hate meta.

[Nero Cain]

I wouldn't really put it past dw to buddy me @ the end of d1 but I also think he's pretty able to read me so like maybe he's just town that's reading town instead of scum that just knows I'm town

Kinda feeling like the correct play is to eliminate Cyrus and then pl cheeky if he flips scum

[Dwlee99]

I don't really consider it a meta tell tbh, it's vibes. It feels like you're a lot more assertive this game and you don't seem content with just sheeping Nero. The wagon hopping is something Gamma actually mentioned first, but I thought was worth mentioning since you had the safe middle of the pack votes when you were wagon hopping.

The wagon hopping looks bad specifically because you were on Gamma, who was going to be the Day 1 elim, and then told everyone to hop on T3's wagon after claiming he was scum due to an accurate meta tell. Which, yeah, that was obviously completely wrong now and comes off as scummy since you notably hate meta.

More assertive (implied: than other games)

That's a meta tell

And you just completely ignored what I told you: I didn't wagon hop. I was on two people seriously all of last day phase and it went first vote on t3 --> middle gamma --> middle t3.

And you are also the umpteenth person to have ignored multiple posts that the "accurate meta tell" was an obvious joke.

[Roden]

I don't really consider it a meta tell tbh, it's vibes. It feels like you're a lot more assertive this game and you don't seem content with just sheeping Nero. The wagon hopping is something Gamma actually mentioned first, but I thought was worth mentioning since you had the safe middle of the pack votes when you were wagon hopping.

The wagon hopping looks bad specifically because you were on Gamma, who was going to be the Day 1 elim, and then told everyone to hop on T3's wagon after claiming he was scum due to an accurate meta tell. Which, yeah, that was obviously completely wrong now and comes off as scummy since you notably hate meta.

More assertive (implied: than other games)

That's a meta tell

And you just completely ignored what I told you: I didn't wagon hop. I was on two people seriously all of last day phase and it went first vote on t3 --> middle gamma --> middle t3.

And you are also the umpteenth person to have ignored multiple posts that the "accurate meta tell" was an obvious joke.

I don't think you should keep arguing that my vibe check is just a meta tell because that would make it more tangible. If you're focused on the word "more" then I'll just say you're straight up being assertive, because that's pretty much what I'm trying to get at here.

Going back and forth between two wagons is still wagon hopping.

I don't think anyone took your "accurate meta tell" as a joke at the time, and I don't think it should be considered a joke since it played a part in getting T3 mis-elim'd. If you've had to tell multiple people it was just a joke then it's probably not actually a joke, and it's something that has to be seriously considered when reading you because you ultimately saved Gamma and killed T3. Maybe not single-handedly, but you played a hefty enough role that multiple people thought you were serious.

[Dwlee99]

I have an extremely accurate meta scum read on t3 right now, y'all should sheep me.

extremely accurate meta scum read

Convince us.

Oh so it's enough for t3 but I can't say it?

This is the second time to my noting that you've been open to a meta point (my first one I noticed being when you took my Nero meta in mind). Despite this you think meta is trash. Are you like Reck who thinks meta is trash the way most people use it?

When did I take your Nero meta in mind?

My post about meta scumreading t3 was because all t3 has done this game is go "something something meta {town/scum} cause meta"

And that's scummy

And I'm confused why people took me seriously

Yes I am assertive sometimes. This is a thing that happens

"Going back and forth" no, just wrong. You are forcing this

I said it was a joke two posts after it, if people can't read that is not my fault.

Your entire read here seems forced and made up and you keep doubling down on it

[Roden]

I have an extremely accurate meta scum read on t3 right now, y'all should sheep me.

extremely accurate meta scum read

Convince us.

Oh so it's enough for t3 but I can't say it?

This is the second time to my noting that you've been open to a meta point (my first one I noticed being when you took my Nero meta in mind). Despite this you think meta is trash. Are you like Reck who thinks meta is trash the way most people use it?

When did I take your Nero meta in mind?

My post about meta scumreading t3 was because all t3 has done this game is go "something something meta {town/scum} cause meta"

And that's scummy

And I'm confused why people took me seriously

Yes I am assertive sometimes. This is a thing that happens

"Going back and forth" no, just wrong. You are forcing this

I said it was a joke two posts after it, if people can't read that is not my fault.

Your entire read here seems forced and made up and you keep doubling down on it

I know it's something that can happen. Why are you so sensitive to being called assertive?

I'm not forcing anything, you did go back and forth and I'm not the only one who noticed.

VOTE: T3
I'm gonna go here I think cause I saw Nero said the words "t3" and "chainsaw defending"

VOTE: Gamma

VOTE: T3

Oh yeah that reminds me that another point against dwlee is that fact was a middle-of-the-pack vote on both me and T3, which is generally the scum hop-on zone

I feel like dwlee is a) more likely scum, b) a bigger threat if scum, and c) more doable

You don't seem to have any problem with Gamma's read on you.

Don't blame people for not knowing it was a joke when you were literally voting for the person you said was scum. If you want to keep arguing that your meta read was a joke when it played a part in getting T3 voted out, then you're gonna have to explain why you were voting for him.

How's my read forced? I'm not exposing anything or making shit up, my read is based directly on what you did and what you said. You can get mad all you want, but you can't just kill people on a whim and excuse it as a joke when they flip green, because you absolutely would've taken credit for it if he flipped red. It's absolutely wild that you don't think what you did legitimately deserves suspicion.

[KittyTacky]

So this is dw and my 6th game 3 of them is town 2 of them is scum so there's a50/50 chance he is scum. So I'm just not going to bother till later.

That is the Gambler's Fallacy.

It’s not even that, it’s just WRONG.

I thought Gambler's Fallacy was exactly this? Assuming something completely random (barring mod corruption which is unlikely) is less likely due to it happening before.

[TemporalLich]

VC 2.5

cyrus62 (4) - Dwlee99, DrippingGoofball, Nero Cain, Roden
MegAzumarill (3) - CheekyTeeky, Shrek, Gamma Emerald
Shrek (2) - ArcAngel9, Save The Dragons
ArcAngel9 (1) - LicketyQuickety
KittyTacky (1) - MegAzumarill

Not voting: Almost50, Dragon of the West, cyrus62, KittyTacky

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2021-08-22 22:30:00) or when an exile is reached.

As a friendly reminder, remember that this is a game.

[Shrek]

I have an extremely accurate meta scum read on t3 right now, y'all should sheep me.

extremely accurate meta scum read

Convince us.

Oh so it's enough for t3 but I can't say it?

This is the second time to my noting that you've been open to a meta point (my first one I noticed being when you took my Nero meta in mind). Despite this you think meta is trash. Are you like Reck who thinks meta is trash the way most people use it?

When did I take your Nero meta in mind?

My post about meta scumreading t3 was because all t3 has done this game is go "something something meta {town/scum} cause meta"

And that's scummy

And I'm confused why people took me seriously

Yes I am assertive sometimes. This is a thing that happens

"Going back and forth" no, just wrong. You are forcing this

I said it was a joke two posts after it, if people can't read that is not my fault.

Your entire read here seems forced and made up and you keep doubling down on it

tbh i agree with dwlee on this. it was pretty obvious that it was a joke at the time considering how asinine what t3 was saying about his 'meta read that he couldnt say anything about' was and it feels like you're trying to double down on practically nothing. goes double actually since he proved you wrong about the 'opportunistic wagon hopping' which is something the majority of people here did from gamma to t3 last phase. people hopping to t3 wasnt because of dwlee if that's what you mean and i dont think singling him out for
a joke is the play here. like your stuff here comes across as a little too defensive considering the circumstances and you're making some really weird assumptions/statements about dwlee's play that i don't agree with. it feels like you're trying to construct a narrative against him in the same way as arc does and i dont like it.

[KittyTacky]

V/LA with college work until tomorrow.

[DrippingGoofball]

The top two wagons are probably on scum.

[cyrus62]

VOTE: dgb you have the worse play here . its like look at me i can post a bunch of tiny witter post and try to look town your lamest anit going fly with me.