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Post Post #3100 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:42 am

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....Jesus that's a terrible post.

Annie, are you sure Bell is town?
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Post Post #3101 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:42 am

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In post 3094, Annie Edison wrote:Bell I find it very hard to believe scum wouldn’t start with at least one demon
Eh, I'm skeptical and tend to think mods are out to mess with expectations, but I'm largely allergic to making assumptions. Or at least, am very mindful of it.

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Post Post #3102 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:42 am

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VOTE: Snarky Fishes
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Post Post #3103 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:43 am

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@ffery what are your thoughts on this all

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@unwnd-I’ve been questioning my entire game view for the last like 2 minutes

But why isn’t he lurking if he is
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Post Post #3104 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:43 am

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In post 3099, Snarky Fishes wrote:My wording is exactly specified as 1 demon or 2 demons. Because Medea claimed they were a demon. Not whether there were 0, 1 or 2 demons.
i don't understand this post. help?
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Post Post #3105 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:43 am

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In post 3100, unwnd wrote:....Jesus that's a terrible post.

Annie, are you sure Bell is town?
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Explain your reasoning again as to why you were okay with sharding Annie, but not giving them power.

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Post Post #3106 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:44 am

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In post 3103, Annie Edison wrote:@ffery what are your thoughts on this all

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But why isn’t he lurking if he is
Hydra helps? I don't know. These last 3 posts from Bell are..shocking.
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Post Post #3107 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:45 am

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In post 3103, Annie Edison wrote:@ffery what are your thoughts on this all

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@unwnd-I’ve been questioning my entire game view for the last like 2 minutes

But why isn’t he lurking if he is
I think it's a misunderstanding, but I don't know (yet) where the disconnect is.
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Post Post #3108 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:45 am

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im having some trouble following this but im ok hoping someone smart sorts it out
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Post Post #3109 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:46 am

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Fuck man am I doing it again
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Post Post #3110 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:46 am

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My reasoning is that shard activity through vote can be a litmus test. I was talking about it as Sleez. If town has no incentive to ever shard then why would there be an open vote. The shard mechanic is not simply there to benefit scum completely, rather it has a risk/reward to it. I'm certain of this knowing my own role and the fact I can distribute out shards.
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Post Post #3111 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:46 am

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I'm saying that Unwnd's reasoning for not protesting when Annie was given a shard and then deciding not to give them the power they requested doesn't make sense.
I was aware there was at least *one demon* around and my wording was such, but Unwnd misread and accused me of thinking there were 0 demons day one.

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Post Post #3112 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:47 am

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In post 3098, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 3094, Annie Edison wrote:Bell I find it very hard to believe scum wouldn’t start with at least one demon
I think there was only one demon day 1, though, because we were at "Low" shard count. So if you think that, it leads to medea-scum from that viewpoint.
This is the post that bugs me bell

It looks like an info slip
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Post Post #3113 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:48 am

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If Annie wanted to be a demon (implying our theory on scum self-sharding is true), then there would be no need to get shards. Shard voting is the balance for scum having their own.
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Post Post #3114 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:48 am

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Like, I'm not sure if you're all having a collective stroke or I miswrote somewhere.

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Post Post #3115 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:49 am

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In post 3110, unwnd wrote:My reasoning is that shard activity through vote can be a litmus test. I was talking about it as Sleez. If town has no incentive to ever shard then why would there be an open vote. The shard mechanic is not simply there to benefit scum completely, rather it has a risk/reward to it. I'm certain of this knowing my own role and the fact I can distribute out shards.
So you think shard distribution by town should be out loud and on record and that's more important than powering up a townread that wants to be powered up?
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Post Post #3116 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:49 am

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i am deleting a post wherein i wade into someone else's line of questioning and posting this instead. please give headpats and call me a good boy.
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Post Post #3117 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:50 am

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Good job, matey. I knew you had the love’o’the sea in ye.
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Post Post #3118 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:50 am

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In post 3112, Annie Edison wrote:
In post 3098, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 3094, Annie Edison wrote:Bell I find it very hard to believe scum wouldn’t start with at least one demon
I think there was only one demon day 1, though, because we were at "Low" shard count. So if you think that, it leads to medea-scum from that viewpoint.
This is the post that bugs me bell

It looks like an info slip
That wasn't my post and I think FF was giving my reasoning for me. Though I didn't assume that either. I figured Medea was probably telling the truth about being a demon. I just wasn't sure that they were also a: town. b: there was another demon or not.
Like I said, I don't like making assumptions.

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Post Post #3119 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:51 am

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I think the mechanic should be ignored now because scum is obviously playing to second wincon

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Post Post #3120 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:51 am

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In post 3112, Annie Edison wrote:
In post 3098, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 3094, Annie Edison wrote:Bell I find it very hard to believe scum wouldn’t start with at least one demon
I think there was only one demon day 1, though, because we were at "Low" shard count. So if you think that, it leads to medea-scum from that viewpoint.
This is the post that bugs me bell

It looks like an info slip
That was ffery.

The Low shard count threshhold was 1-2 shards yesterday? Bork said he had to go back and edit it in to his first vote count.
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Post Post #3121 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:52 am

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Hey snarky fishes. Why does it make sense for Medea to be a scum doctor that self-roleblocks if targeted?
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Post Post #3122 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:52 am

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In post 2, borkjerfkin wrote:At the beginning of every game day, I will publicly post a rough indication of the number of demonic players in the game, using one of the following ranges: Low (0-2), Medium (3-5), or High (6-8).
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Post Post #3123 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:53 am

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Also I can't reveal something else about my role because I'm certain if I do it plays right into scum
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Post Post #3124 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:54 am

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In post 3121, Dunnstral wrote:Hey snarky fishes. Why does it make sense for Medea to be a scum doctor that self-roleblocks if targeted?
I don't know that it does make sense. But why wouldn't it?
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