Newbie 2075: Icecream Cake (Game Over)

[Psyche]

i think it could easily be a gambit even under limited information and excluding the possibility is overly aggressive

[Cook]

i can't find any scum counterplays against my strategy either. they're effectively screwed.

1. i wouldn't put forth a strategy that had a fatal flaw that i knew about in it if i were town, as then scum could find that loophole or abuse that loophole if someone else pointed it out and then the strategy would be bust and would lead the ship to doom. but this could be a viable strategy for scum!me, if it weren't for one other thing.
   
2. i wouldn't do it as scum, either, as asking for blind trust of other people would lead to me being thrown into the spotlight early and i can't defend myself for anything.
   
3. likewise i wouldn't put forth an unbreakable (or hard-to-break) strategy as scum, i'd wait a game or two to do it, as otherwise i would sabotage my own game.

[Kerset]

It's easy to fake gamesolving via mechanics, because you don't need townmindset for it, unlike for actual scumhunt.

[Quiet Owl]

It's easy to fake gamesolving via mechanics, because you don't need townmindset for it, unlike for actual scumhunt.

Why not pretend that there's a rival mafia that the town doesn't know about and hunt for that?

[Kerset]

Can you enjoy a movie rewatch by pretending that you don't know its ending?

[Quiet Owl]

Can you enjoy a movie rewatch by pretending that you don't know its ending?

While the answer is yes, I get the point. I still intend to test this when I get the chance.

[GuyInFreezer]

Dorsey replaces navigatorv.
48 hours have been added to the deadline.

[Cook]

Welcome Dorsey!

Please read through the game and answer my questions:
1. Who looks Town?
2. Who looks Mafia?
3. If you had a Cop investigation who would you use it on?
4. Why shouldn’t we vote you off?

[Dorsey]

I've been trying to read and guess who's evil. This is what I have so far.

T3 - I think the mafia are T3 and Cook
ben - I like ben
Psyche - Seems pretty standard
Cook - I think the tracker claim thing was weird and exploitative
Kerset - I really like Kerset
Wheme - Okay I guess, but kind of iffy
Owl - I thought the initial reads list was kind of early. I don't know what to think of that yet.
Mega - Kind of quiet/hypocritical, asking for discussion but not asking any questions

If I could investigate someone, it would be Kerset because I want her on my side. And you shouldn't vote me off because then we would lose.

VOTE: Cook

[Dorsey]

Hey! My thing changed from Ninja to Townie

[Sea monkey]

I've been trying to read and guess who's evil. This is what I have so far.

T3 - I think the mafia are T3 and Cook
ben - I like ben
Psyche - Seems pretty standard
Cook - I think the tracker claim thing was weird and exploitative
Kerset - I really like Kerset
Wheme - Okay I guess, but kind of iffy
Owl - I thought the initial reads list was kind of early. I don't know what to think of that yet.
Mega - Kind of quiet/hypocritical, asking for discussion but not asking any questions

If I could investigate someone, it would be Kerset because I want her on my side. And you shouldn't vote me off because then we would lose.

VOTE: Cook

i dont exist anymore :,)

[Sea monkey]

Also i dont really think t3 and cook would be partners but maybe I need to reread all the pages?

[T3]

I've been trying to read and guess who's evil. This is what I have so far.

T3 - I think the mafia are T3 and Cook
ben - I like ben
Psyche - Seems pretty standard
Cook - I think the tracker claim thing was weird and exploitative
Kerset - I really like Kerset
Wheme - Okay I guess, but kind of iffy
Owl - I thought the initial reads list was kind of early. I don't know what to think of that yet.
Mega - Kind of quiet/hypocritical, asking for discussion but not asking any questions

If I could investigate someone, it would be Kerset because I want her on my side. And you shouldn't vote me off because then we would lose.

VOTE: Cook

Hi.
What is invalid about Cook's plan?

[Dorsey]

Sorry, Sea Monkey, I forgot about you. You don't have a picture.

I thought Cook's plan was meant to confuse us and your intent was to spam us into forgetting about it. I just don't know how likely it is for everything to go 'to plan' and for the forum aspect to be pointless.

[Dorsey]

What do the words underneath the names mean?

[Quiet Owl]

Owl - I thought the initial reads list was kind of early. I don't know what to think of that yet.

Why focus on this and not how I've been defending Cook, who you've got written down as scum? Personally I'd find the latter far more alarming.

[Quiet Owl]

What do the words underneath the names mean?

I think they're a measure of how many posts you have.

[T3]

Clearly I'm Mafia Scum.

[Dorsey]

I'm actually voting Cook instead of T3 because you were so defensive of them. There's no way for me to prove at what point Cook devised the strategy. There was a period in between game start and everyone being confirmed. That's when you replaced in. Cook could have come up with the strategy at that point.

[Dorsey]

I'm also curious. Why are there people still not voting? Does that count as a vote for no elimination? And what's bad about Sea Monkey?

[Cook]

I'm also curious. Why are there people still not voting? Does that count as a vote for no elimination? And what's bad about Sea Monkey?

Some people don't like RVS so they don't vote. Or they aren't active. Or they're trying to lurk.

It counts as an abstention that won't help any cause.

Curious about this last point as well.

[Cook]

I'm actually voting Cook instead of T3 because you were so defensive of them. There's no way for me to prove at what point Cook devised the strategy.1 There was a period in between game start and everyone being confirmed. That's when you replaced in.2 Cook could have come up with the strategy at that point.3

1. And there's no way for me to prove it either, but, as on Wikipedia... assume good faith.

2. But of their own choice? Why is a rep-in a point of argument? Isn't this kind of angleshooting?

3. This is a fairly involved strategy, would you expect me to be able to make it in that time period?

and 4. All of this rides on the assumption that I'm partners with T3. By the very same logic Owl should be partners with me because they defended my credibility.

[Cook]

What do the words underneath the names mean?

I think they're a measure of how many posts you have.

Player titles are the little snippets that are located under each player’s username. For most of us, it’s a pre-determined Mafia role based on post count in Mafia games:
0 posts – Watcher
1 post – Ninja
2 posts – Townie
100 posts – Goon
1000 posts – Mafia Scum
5000 posts – Jack of All Trades
10000 posts - Survivor
However, it is a long-standing tradition on MafiaScum to give out custom titles as gifts to those users who were integral to a notable event or possess notable traits or quirks that make them outstanding members of the community.

Flay, Mr. "Title Fairy". MafiaScum Wiki. Adel et al. 5 April 2019 revision, mafiascum.net. 5 April 2019.

[Quiet Owl]

I'm actually voting Cook instead of T3 because you were so defensive of them. There's no way for me to prove at what point Cook devised the strategy. There was a period in between game start and everyone being confirmed. That's when you replaced in. Cook could have come up with the strategy at that point.

You have a point.

[Dorsey]

Would it not be beneficial then to vote the people who are not voting?

The only relevance replacing in bore to what I was saying was that you (Cook) didn't have to cook up the strategy on the spot - you had time post-finding out that you were scum (hypothetically) to think of it. I think I see why this is fun now.