Large Normal 235: Large Normal With No Multiball [Game Over]

[CheekyTeeky]

...fml

[LicketyQuickety]

LQ how can DGB be scum if you're town with the loyal modifier?

Because.. I've said this like 3? 4? times now that I DON'T have the Loyal modifier.

[Dwlee99]

If red go Kitty if green go Dwlee

Not following how green mega flip implicates me?

[CheekyTeeky]

So they lied about being loyal so that we would townread it's role, then they confessed they had another shot which would clear another townie effectively giving us 2 soft conf town? It's beyond a stretch.

[LicketyQuickety]

Are you also a checker? That isn't how NRG works on loyal.

I received no acknowledgement of my action, I thought the mod might have made a mistake, so I asked.

You remind me of scum!MathBlade casting doubt on my cop-guilty result in another game. Are you scum, Dwlee?

The mod can't tell you if your action succeeded, only if it was received.

I'm not "casting doubt" I'm getting clarification because the way you described it is not how it works. If you knew your action succeeded it goes to a hard guilty instead of a soft guilty (cause the action could have been roleblocked)

Still think this is dodgy.

Or, DGB clearly was not acting like it knew how its role worked.

DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok well that makes me locktown DGB, because clearly they were saying 1x so they wouldn't be NK. So... shit.

Yuuuup. So is LQ scum or dumb

DGB claimed Loyal. So how can I be Scum?

How can DGB be scum?

By lying about being Loyal. Which means this whole thing is some elaborate SvS with me and DGB or I am Town regardless.

unless DGB flips scum Disloyal Neighborizer I'm not entirely inclined to clear you off a DGB scumflip

[CheekyTeeky]

If red go Kitty if green go Dwlee

Not following how green mega flip implicates me?

It doesn't directly but if we flip him you're the most suss double green Wagoner imo.

[LicketyQuickety]

Ok well that makes me locktown DGB, because clearly they were saying 1x so they wouldn't be NK. So... shit.

Yuuuup. So is LQ scum or dumb

DGB claimed Loyal. So how can I be Scum?

How can DGB be scum?

By lying about being Loyal. Which means this whole thing is some elaborate SvS with me and DGB or I am Town regardless.

unless DGB flips scum Disloyal Neighborizer I'm not entirely inclined to clear you off a DGB scumflip

No, because they can do the same thing without the Loyal modifier. Else, you are entering into some pretty bad tin foil theory.

[Dwlee99]

DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.

But that isn't how loyal works. You're not informed of if it goes through or not and for what reasons. DGB was saying the action "went through" (ie not roleblocked) but that it "failed" (loyal modifier blocked it) but loyal blocking it and roleblocks blocking it are indistinguishable.

[LicketyQuickety]

Re: DGB claim: It resolves itself at this point.

[Gamma Emerald]

I just think the way you've been playing feels a little weird for conftown what with how much you've been pushing for DGB's death

[LicketyQuickety]

DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.

But that isn't how loyal works. You're not informed of if it goes through or not and for what reasons. DGB was saying the action "went through" (ie not roleblocked) but that it "failed" (loyal modifier blocked it) but loyal blocking it and roleblocks blocking it are indistinguishable.

And then they said that it worked (didn't fail).

Honestly, the whole DGB thing is super WIFOMy. It resolves itself at this point. Either DGB or I die tonight.

[Dwlee99]

If red go Kitty if green go Dwlee

Not following how green mega flip implicates me?

It doesn't directly but if we flip him you're the most suss double green Wagoner imo.

But no actually

[Dwlee99]

DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.

But that isn't how loyal works. You're not informed of if it goes through or not and for what reasons. DGB was saying the action "went through" (ie not roleblocked) but that it "failed" (loyal modifier blocked it) but loyal blocking it and roleblocks blocking it are indistinguishable.

And then they said that it worked (didn't fail).

Honestly, the whole DGB thing is super WIFOMy. It resolves itself at this point. Either DGB or I die tonight.

Okay but aren't you voting it? I'm confused.

[LicketyQuickety]

I just think the way you've been playing feels a little weird for conftown what with how much you've been pushing for DGB's death

That shade though.

[LicketyQuickety]

DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.

But that isn't how loyal works. You're not informed of if it goes through or not and for what reasons. DGB was saying the action "went through" (ie not roleblocked) but that it "failed" (loyal modifier blocked it) but loyal blocking it and roleblocks blocking it are indistinguishable.

And then they said that it worked (didn't fail).

Honestly, the whole DGB thing is super WIFOMy. It resolves itself at this point. Either DGB or I die tonight.

Okay but aren't you voting it? I'm confused.

Yeah, oops.

Resume as normal. Going back to my previous vote:

VOTE: Arc

[Dwlee99]

Arc seems townie for her right now which maybe is scummy for her lol

[Shrek]

i hate to say it but arc is at least being proactive even if her reads are dumb and hypocritical. can we flip mega so we dont go through this same back and forth bickering that gets us nowhere? idk why theres been so much resistance against his wagon for two phases now

[LicketyQuickety]

i hate to say it but arc is at least being proactive even if her reads are dumb and hypocritical. can we flip mega so we dont go through this same back and forth bickering that gets us nowhere? idk why theres been so much resistance against his wagon for two phases now

I don't hate flipping Mega, but I'd like them to claim first.

[LicketyQuickety]

Actually, let's go here:

VOTE: Gamma

[Shrek]

Actually, let's go here:

VOTE: Gamma

explain your reasoning pls

[LicketyQuickety]

Actually, let's go here:

VOTE: Gamma

explain your reasoning pls

Look in my ISO for my reasons.

First thing was them asking questions to inflate their post count. Secondly that both me and Norweigh wanted the wagons to be T3 and Gamma, and T3 flipped Town and Norweigh died.

[Gamma Emerald]

if I wanted to kill people who wanted to wagon me norway would not be the first pick

[LicketyQuickety]

if I wanted to kill people who wanted to wagon me norway would not be the first pick

Why was Norweigh killed then?

[Gamma Emerald]

probably for being obvtown