Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Spiffeh I'm too cute to die

[Spiffeh]

Can you elaborate on what about unwnd's tone felt off to you? I have been seeing unwnd dropping on some reads lists but I don't really understand why.

[Here There Be Dragons]

@STD You mentioned that Pooky, Annie, Rhea, and Dunn seemed to hop onto your wagon without much explanation. Do any of these in particular feel scum-motivated to you?

Additionally, what are your thoughts on the composition of the Titus wagon? Is there a vote or push there that stands out to you as scummy? I already stated I was perturbed at your slots behavior around the wagon, but now that you know Titus was town do you feel any differently about the other players who participated in her lim?

On my end, I am struggling to find players I DON'T townread and your slot is one of them. I understand why you could be frustrated because there doesn't seem to be an overarching case other than "you're not a town read" and if I were in your position I would probably be pissed off, but at this point I think a wagon on a player that is universally NOT town read is worth exploring. (I would heavily prefer Pooky getting limmed over you tho)

of those i think pooky's the most scummy

i think luke had a slam dunk case and i think people who are like "look at the titus wagon" are kidding themselves. titus was scummy, sorry not sorry.

i guess that makes sense but it'd be nice to clarify why we're not being townread. i think some of the play is just lazy and some of it is scum trying to shade us. i'd like to think that the two of us combined are good enough as scum not to get caught so easily by the entire cast.

~std

[Here There Be Dragons]

for instance, i hated this entire interaction, i think it's pretty ducking clear what "interesting" meant but sleez/unwnd chose to be obtuse about it. i feel like that happens elsewhere, where he chooses to be dense or obtuse. d2 has been more straightforward which is why i'm doubting my read.

People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.

interesting

What's interesting about it?

your phrasing

Not the fact people are being scummy?

no...? considering theres been like 3 pages and you havent outlined who youre talking about

What would you say if I were talking about you?

~std

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wtf do you mean im the most scummy

I sheep my cat religiously

[unwnd]

medea thinks ceph is too grumpy? that's enough for pooky annie rhea dunn? what the hell did i just read

it's kind of upsetting joining this game with my s/o trying to navigate this really cool player list just to find no one bothering to talk to us and everyone scumreading us without saying why because we're not town enough for them despite being town? for some reason cephy's not supposed to get too frustrated by that?

i think you should put yourselves in our shoes and see how that feels. we're trying our best and we want to do well, but it's hard when some people can't even be touched without strong cases but we get nothing, which is why cephrir feels grumpy about this game and says things like he feels like a second-class citizen or hot garbage. have some empathy for shit's sake.

~std

What do you think of Medea trying to get rid of you? Unfortunately it's very unlikely we contest his doctor claim today.

[Spiffeh]

i think luke had a slam dunk case and i think people who are like "look at the titus wagon" are kidding themselves. titus was scummy, sorry not sorry.

If Luke's case were a slam dunk then what's stopping scum from recognizing how great it was and hiding behind his logic as a reason to hop on the wagon without consequence?

Does this mean you think scum were largely off the wagon and are trying to direct attention towards it to string together another mislim or two from it? If that's the case who do you think is doing that?

[Snarky Fishes]

medea thinks ceph is too grumpy? that's enough for pooky annie rhea dunn? what the hell did i just read

it's kind of upsetting joining this game with my s/o trying to navigate this really cool player list just to find no one bothering to talk to us and everyone scumreading us without saying why because we're not town enough for them despite being town? for some reason cephy's not supposed to get too frustrated by that?

i think you should put yourselves in our shoes and see how that feels. we're trying our best and we want to do well, but it's hard when some people can't even be touched without strong cases but we get nothing, which is why cephrir feels grumpy about this game and says things like he feels like a second-class citizen or hot garbage. have some empathy for shit's sake.

~std

There was more to his case than ceph being grumpy.

Not addressing that and pretending the case was "ceph's too grumpy" isn't a good luck.

[Here There Be Dragons]

What do you think of Medea trying to get rid of you? Unfortunately it's very unlikely we contest his doctor claim today.

i think it's bunk, of course, to think that cephy is grumpy and equate it to scumminess. Ceph has snark and is a curmudgeon sometimes. it's not really AI. i think he may have turned it up a little bit and i think it's clear to see why. I think Medea is capitalizing on that bit, plus all the "non-townreads" we've gotten, to try and mislim us

[Here There Be Dragons]

Not addressing that and pretending the case was "ceph's too grumpy" isn't a good luck.

you and cephy may speak cabd but i don't.

someone's going to need to explain it to me

~std

[Here There Be Dragons]

i think it's bunk, of course, to think that cephy is grumpy and equate it to scumminess. Ceph has snark and is a curmudgeon sometimes. it's not really AI. i think he may have turned it up a little bit and i think it's clear to see why. I think Medea is capitalizing on that bit, plus all the "non-townreads" we've gotten, to try and mislim us

this was me as well

~std

[unwnd]

Secondary team is starting to make sense in my head if all the pieces fit.

My ears are perked, hit me.

Ceph/Spiffeh/?

Pretty much

Can you remind me of your primary scum team?

Pooky

Then the rest is binned due to claim shenanigans

[unwnd]

What do you think of Medea trying to get rid of you? Unfortunately it's very unlikely we contest his doctor claim today.

i think it's bunk, of course, to think that cephy is grumpy and equate it to scumminess. Ceph has snark and is a curmudgeon sometimes. it's not really AI. i think he may have turned it up a little bit and i think it's clear to see why. I think Medea is capitalizing on that bit, plus all the "non-townreads" we've gotten, to try and mislim us

So you think Medea claiming doctor is bs, or just so happens to be a scum role? Who else have you thought about?

I think the day probably ends on you because people want to be carried-- I can understand your frustration if it's wrong but that's just the type of pull they have.

[Here There Be Dragons]

i think luke had a slam dunk case and i think people who are like "look at the titus wagon" are kidding themselves. titus was scummy, sorry not sorry.

If Luke's case were a slam dunk then what's stopping scum from recognizing how great it was and hiding behind his logic as a reason to hop on the wagon without consequence?

Does this mean you think scum were largely off the wagon and are trying to direct attention towards it to string together another mislim or two from it? If that's the case who do you think is doing that?

i don't really know.

i guess i'm just not focused on the wagon because of the reasons i've stated. i think it's likely scum were on and off the wagon, i just don't know if i'll be able to point them out based on the way the wagon went.

~std

[Spiffeh]

unwnd why are you voting CephTD when Pooky is your strongest scum read?

[unwnd]

I'm voting CephTD?

[Here There Be Dragons]

What do you think of Medea trying to get rid of you? Unfortunately it's very unlikely we contest his doctor claim today.

i think it's bunk, of course, to think that cephy is grumpy and equate it to scumminess. Ceph has snark and is a curmudgeon sometimes. it's not really AI. i think he may have turned it up a little bit and i think it's clear to see why. I think Medea is capitalizing on that bit, plus all the "non-townreads" we've gotten, to try and mislim us

So you think Medea claiming doctor is bs, or just so happens to be a scum role? Who else have you thought about?

I think the day probably ends on you because people want to be carried-- I can understand your frustration if it's wrong but that's just the type of pull they have.

i was trying to post agnostic of mechanics/claims but didn't say that. i believe their claim is real because of Dunn, i just don't know if they're town. i don't really think dunn and medea are scum together at this point.

~std

[unwnd]

I had dragons as a scumread on D1, but right now I'm in a precarious situation. If this is the game where Medea/Dunnstral are both town then I was completely off base. Maybe it's fooilsh of me to throw away previous work but that's just how I feel. I'd be lying if my confidence didn't take a bit of a hit, but nothing I can't recover from.

[Spiffeh]

Ok idk why I thought you were voting CephTD

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky

[unwnd]

VOTE: CephTD

I can't really see this day having anymore usage. I don't think Pooky wagons happens because the other one is stamped by Medea

[Spiffeh]

You're right unwnd let's just continue to shove lims through without having heard from everyone because that worked really well last Day

If you're scum reading CephTD fine but there is no reason to ignore your seemingly strongest scum read twice in a row because you're sick of the Day when it's barely lasted 24 hours?

I really have no idea what your problem is?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Desperate Mouse

[unwnd]

Pooky is going to troll and anti-spew even if he's scum

CephTD will give more beneficial tells, and it's testing Medea's resolve as well

[Here There Be Dragons]

hold your fucking horses unwnd