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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:07 am

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Maths is far from my strongest suit, to put it bluntly, I don't have a completed high school maths certification, I have an adults catch up basic maths certification.

I could look at it more later, but annoyingly I've been informed the DnD game I'd have ronight is now in person, and I need to haul my ass out.
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:11 am

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In post 1122, Dwlee99 wrote:I don't think that's how the distribution works.
No, that's not how it works and I think everything is calculated independently.
There were 2 options:
Either this is a fakeclaim. Because Flea just pulled the math out right here, it's probably not.
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:15 am

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In post 1125, Fairy Circle wrote:Maths is far from my strongest suit, to put it bluntly, I don't have a completed high school maths certification, I have an adults catch up basic maths certification.

I could look at it more later, but annoyingly I've been informed the DnD game I'd have ronight is now in person, and I need to haul my ass out.
That's why Wolfram Alpha exists :]
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:18 am

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Okay wait
So yes, this potion distribution is 33% more likely to come from scum. And on average scum are going to have ~3.24 potions, meanwhile town will have 2.14 potions? So this
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:20 am

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So the specific number of potions Fairy has is 51% more likely to come from scum, and the specific potions are 33% more likely to come from scum.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:21 am

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Who cares
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:29 am

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Flea seems to have the math that says their potions are more likely to come from scum than town which makes me think they're town. WIFOM exists...
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:32 am

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If this is town then we lose a vig shot, if this is scum then they lose a vig shot. But scum don't have a factional kill. In total scum will on average have 4.2 pain potions. Fairy has 2 pain potions. So if Fairy is scum limming them would [on average] halve scum's killing power.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:33 am

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Meanwhile if Fairy is town limming them would [on average] take our killing power down by just 25%.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:34 am

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In a vacuum, limming Fairy is the optimal decision.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:57 am

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I may be a simple man but lim all scum win game. Not that im a mechanical player in the first place but percentages and probabilities dont make an elim optimal or suboptimal in my eyes.
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:00 am

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yeeting by math is a horrible idea. fairy might be scum anyway but "they're 2.54% more likely to have that potion distribution as scum" is a bad

rce, why are you voting fairy again? nobody has provided me a tldr yet :(

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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:14 am

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In post 1123, Dwlee99 wrote:As in, the part about you having two meaning someone has to have none (although that has been claimed).
Fairy is still scummy for the townslip thing.
Math says Fairy is more likely to be scum, yeeting scum Fairy is bad for the scum.
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:16 am

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I was once like 80% chance scum or something in a game and yeeting me there loses the game probably cause instead I hard pushed someone as evil correctly that day phase.
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:17 am

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Fairy kinda scummy kinda PoE true. Am I feeling cold feet? Also true
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:21 am

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Without taking math into account, that's where I'm also at.
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:22 am

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Man where’s Emperor at.
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:24 am

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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:26 am

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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:39 am

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VOTE: T3

I feel that Fairy is getting run up solely for defending me and I don't like it.
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:45 am

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In post 1136, Green Cap Boys wrote:yeeting by math is a horrible idea. fairy might be scum anyway but "they're 2.54% more likely to have that potion distribution as scum" is a bad

rce, why are you voting fairy again? nobody has provided me a tldr yet :(

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fairy dumbtelling rubbed me wrong and pushed me to throw a vote down and see where it goes. spending more time explaining why they arent posting instead of posting doesnt sway me away from the wagon.
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:47 am

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RC what did you think of my reads?
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:54 am

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In post 1141, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Man where’s Emperor at.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:54 am

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(At work, gonna catch up tonight)
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:40 am

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In post 1146, Dwlee99 wrote:RC what did you think of my reads?
i'm in the bottom of the poe with mastina so i dont think they're spot on and are mostly consensus. i super dislike the bingle read since the angle is that hes town because hes potionless which assumes:

A.) There exists 1 potionless player
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2.) potionless can only be distributed to town

I doubt the setup allows for confirmed town from the onset of the game or there would have just been an IC at daystart. If your read is deeper than that I missed it. Also not a fan that a titus!town flip doesnt change how you see the game at all, but thats minor since its diving into hypotheticals anyway.

we agree on gcb and norwee though so thats something.
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