Mini Normal 2232 -ENDGAME

[Dwlee99]

From my skimming of the those games, DGB would be fuming right now

[Kazyan]

I'd say that trying to outsmarting the mod isn't helpful, but I might have a skewed perspective here, since my first game in Mafia had an Innocent Child.

Is that was RVS is supposed to do? Huh. Fair, then. I haven't noticed reactions to RVS-voting someone being important, but apparently, voting for myself can get a response too.

In theory, at least. Debatable how well it accomplishes that in practice. Does the response tell you anything?

I thought it might be a little scummy to ask a probing question over something that clearly doesn't matter, but then I realized that a "peck" at someone hasn't historically come from scum in my games--Lunar Martian in Mini Normal 2187, or T3's initial questions in Not Quite Normal Multiball. And then you gave a reasonable answer, so now I'm not getting any scum vibes from you.

whats the good point?

weird - because i have never seen a game with day 1 mod confirmed townie before

A vague "this is weird" suggests that you have more information about the gamestate with which to evaluate it. To me, having an Innocent Child isn't enough to consider this a bizarro world game, but given that your experience is different, your comment makes more sense.

[AliceK]

Is that was RVS is supposed to do? Huh. Fair, then. I haven't noticed reactions to RVS-voting someone being important, but apparently, voting for myself can get a response too.

In theory, at least. Debatable how well it accomplishes that in practice. Does the response tell you anything?

yes, moderator, sorry typed too quickly. like, i know what an innocent child is but a day zero one i've not seen before. it is unusual enough that i wondered if the moderator was known for weird roles

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83755
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82764

Skimming through our moderator's topics, I found his last two Normal games had a d1 Innocent Child. Though I'm sceptical on how much value we get from discussing this in depth right now.

Hmm, I doubt you would do that to get towncred as scum. Either you would wait with this info few days or keep it for yourself. IMO it is valuable. Yeah you are Town.

[AliceK]

MargotRosa and ssbm are the scumiest from entries.

I doubt Jackson will come to play.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

It's not. I confess, I usually eat oatmeal.

This is the honesty of town.

Hard claiming that my role will not mess with investigative results after skimming mod iso of those last 2 NK15 games

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Margot Rosa
Let's get an early wagon started

[Jolyne]

MargotRosa and ssbm are the scumiest from entries.

I doubt Jackson will come to play.

What is scummy about Kyouko?

[Dwlee99]

It's not. I confess, I usually eat oatmeal.

This is the honesty of town.

Hard claiming that my role will not mess with investigative results after skimming mod iso of those last 2 NK15 games

I hard claim seeing this post

[Jolyne]

I hardclaim IC

[Nixie]

yeah not happy with the IC diving line from geraintm. It gets us nowhere and is busywork for everyone.

Vote: geraintm

[Nixie]

Is that was RVS is supposed to do? Huh. Fair, then. I haven't noticed reactions to RVS-voting someone being important, but apparently, voting for myself can get a response too.

In theory, at least. Debatable how well it accomplishes that in practice. Does the response tell you anything?

yes, moderator, sorry typed too quickly. like, i know what an innocent child is but a day zero one i've not seen before. it is unusual enough that i wondered if the moderator was known for weird roles

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83755
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82764

Skimming through our moderator's topics, I found his last two Normal games had a d1 Innocent Child. Though I'm sceptical on how much value we get from discussing this in depth right now.

Hmm, I doubt you would do that to get towncred as scum. Either you would wait with this info few days or keep it for yourself. IMO it is valuable. Yeah you are Town.

This is also a bad post. Arbitrary townread here is bad juju.

[AliceK]

MargotRosa and ssbm are the scumiest from entries.

I doubt Jackson will come to play.

What is scummy about Kyouko?

I think MargotRosa entry is awkward, repeating my joke could be a scum not having an idea how to enter the thread. And Kyouko could notice that as well and stack a vote, distancing herself early.

[AliceK]

Is that was RVS is supposed to do? Huh. Fair, then. I haven't noticed reactions to RVS-voting someone being important, but apparently, voting for myself can get a response too.

In theory, at least. Debatable how well it accomplishes that in practice. Does the response tell you anything?

yes, moderator, sorry typed too quickly. like, i know what an innocent child is but a day zero one i've not seen before. it is unusual enough that i wondered if the moderator was known for weird roles

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83755
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82764

Skimming through our moderator's topics, I found his last two Normal games had a d1 Innocent Child. Though I'm sceptical on how much value we get from discussing this in depth right now.

Hmm, I doubt you would do that to get towncred as scum. Either you would wait with this info few days or keep it for yourself. IMO it is valuable. Yeah you are Town.

This is also a bad post. Arbitrary townread here is bad juju.

Unless you have an argument based on his meta I will stick to my read.

[Jolyne]

MargotRosa and ssbm are the scumiest from entries.

I doubt Jackson will come to play.

What is scummy about Kyouko?

I think MargotRosa entry is awkward, repeating my joke could be a scum not having an idea how to enter the thread. And Kyouko could notice that as well and stack a vote, distancing herself early.

Lol?

[Kazyan]

I hardclaim IC

Fake and sus

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Alice why do you not think Nathann was distancing from Margo?

[AliceK]

Alice why do you not think Nathann was distancing from Margo?

Not him, but you. Why you voted Margo?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I kinda feel like Alice is TMIing her partner and that Jolyene's clue about scum shitting themselves implies jolyene knows something that jo thinks that scum also know, like maybe a special kind of traitor.

If that's the case I'd hazard a guess that "our mob" was not a typo but was in fact a traitor crumb and geraintm voting me is chainsawing for Margot

Another case cracked by bdsm_ultimate_detective

[Dwlee99]

^ town thoughts

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I voted Margot because her entrance is scummy. All she has to say is "scum confirmed" - she's trying to fit in to RVS with a joking post but it just falls flat and feels forced to me.

[Kazyan]

If that's the case I'd hazard a guess that "our mob" was not a typo but was in fact a traitor crumb and geraintm voting me is chainsawing for Margot

I'd wait for more data before making so many hard extrapolations, but this is worth being a working hypothesis.

[AliceK]

I kinda feel like Alice is TMIing her partner and that Jolyene's clue about scum shitting themselves implies jolyene knows something that jo thinks that scum also know, like maybe a special kind of traitor.

If that's the case I'd hazard a guess that "our mob" was not a typo but was in fact a traitor crumb and geraintm voting me is chainsawing for Margot

Another case cracked by bdsm_ultimate_detective

Interesting. I can't see the tmi. Can you elaborate on that?


Your take on geraintm make sense. However, I can't see why geraintm would do such a risky play. It could be easily missed or noticed by Town.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I kinda feel like Alice is TMIing her partner and that Jolyene's clue about scum shitting themselves implies jolyene knows something that jo thinks that scum also know, like maybe a special kind of traitor.

If that's the case I'd hazard a guess that "our mob" was not a typo but was in fact a traitor crumb and geraintm voting me is chainsawing for Margot

Another case cracked by bdsm_ultimate_detective

Interesting. I can't see the tmi. Can you elaborate on that?


Your take on geraintm make sense. However, I can't see why geraintm would do such a risky play. It could be easily missed or noticed by Town.

The TMI:

MargotRosa and ssbm are the scumiest from entries.

I doubt Jackson will come to play.

What is scummy about Kyouko?

I think MargotRosa entry is awkward, repeating my joke could be a scum not having an idea how to enter the thread. And Kyouko could notice that as well and stack a vote, distancing herself early.

Margot didnt actually repeat your joke, so this feels like working backwards from Margot being scum. Saying I notice that as well and that I am distancing is setting me up to appear scummy on a scum!Margot flip and actually serves to distance you from Margot: why would Margot copy your joke if you were partners? Why would you point it out if you were partners?, these are questions town may ask themselves in the future

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Alice why do you not think Nathann was distancing from Margo?

Not him, but you. Why you voted Margo?

I understand you're saying you don't think Nathann is distancing. I'm asking

why

you think that, given that both of our votes showed a lack of reasoning.

I dont understand how you get to "Kyouko also noticed Margot copied my joke and stacked a vote on to distance", but you

don't

also get to "Nathann also noticed Margot copied my joke and stacked a vote on to distance"

These are our votes. What is it about me or Nathann that differentiates our Margot votes from one another?

VOTE: MargotRosa

VOTE: Kazyan

Why the self-vote?

Let me know what you eat for breakfast, as that will form the basis of my scumhunting.

What if I don't eat breakfast?

No need to thank me but I've found our first scum
VOTE: MargotRosa

[Nathann]

This is also a bad post. Arbitrary townread here is bad juju.

Says the person Townreading me for my breakfast choice.

I was about to type out the above question on why Alice didn't think I was distancing, so yeah, interested in that answer. Agreed that Kyouko is giving me Townie vibes, 69 is something similar to what I felt about Margot's entry.

I find Alice's 62 a bit weird. I don't think their Townread on me is objectively good (I don't think pulling out some links to the moderator's past games is outside what I would do as scum), but it seemed genuine enough. However, 62 feels weirdly defensive? I guess it strikes me as odd that they would be calling for being disproven by my meta when they've never played with me before, and when my account has one completed game.