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LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2900 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:44 am

So... who's up for a Gamma Elim?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2901 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:46 am

uh why

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2902 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:47 am

In post 2901, DrippingGoofball wrote:uh why

Because everything else sorts itself out. We just let the NKs decide things.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2903 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:49 am

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2904 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:53 am

In post 2903, DrippingGoofball wrote:no

Yes. It's the best strategy instead of leaving it up to WIFOM with the roles. Depending on the NKs we can decide who to lynch from there. If you have nothing to hide, you should be fine with this.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2905 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:58 am

STOP SAYING THAT WORD

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2906 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:59 am

And Shrek needs to go, that's how things get settled.

Roden · Post Post #2907 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:01 am

In post 2898, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2897, Roden wrote:
In post 2726, Roden wrote:I'm so confused?

Cheeky checked DGB and got no result.

Shrek checked DGB and got no result.

DGB checked Shrek and got no result.

How does any of that make any sense?
Ok, to add to this with the new info we got:

Mega watched DGB and saw Shrek and Cheeky visit. StD did not target DGB.

This means DGB wasn't the NK target. Idk who scum targeted, but this does mean they couldn't have blocked Cheeky unless they were fully allowing DGB to check someone. If Shrek is scum and knows he's a likely Loyal Neighborizer target since DGB is targeting people who are top town reads, I think it makes less sense for him to RB Cheeky over DGB.

We also know DGB isn't aesthetic because Mega got a result. Other people mentioned Alien and looking it up on the wiki, I think that's the only way it makes sense for so many people to get no result while DGB also gets a false positive. If this is what happened, then DGB's role can be used against it to falsely accuse town and then likely get it mis-elim'd afterwards.

However, Shrek's response still looks weird. Like he wasn't expecting for DGB to still get a result at all and doesn't understand why DGB isn't claiming an unsuccessful/blocked check over a guilty result.
You're ignoring that Mega can be Scum with DGB.

If Mega is scum with DGB then you aren't confirmed town either and we got zero info out of this hood. We always vote Shrek first here, and if he flips green then we consider DGB + Mega. You seem to trust DGB though so I'm not sure why you're suggesting that pairing?

Roden · Post Post #2908 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:03 am

In post 2900, LicketyQuickety wrote:So... who's up for a Gamma Elim?

Why would we do Gamma first instead of Shrek???

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2909 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:04 am

In post 2907, Roden wrote:
In post 2898, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2897, Roden wrote:
In post 2726, Roden wrote:I'm so confused?

Cheeky checked DGB and got no result.

Shrek checked DGB and got no result.

DGB checked Shrek and got no result.

How does any of that make any sense?
Ok, to add to this with the new info we got:

Mega watched DGB and saw Shrek and Cheeky visit. StD did not target DGB.

This means DGB wasn't the NK target. Idk who scum targeted, but this does mean they couldn't have blocked Cheeky unless they were fully allowing DGB to check someone. If Shrek is scum and knows he's a likely Loyal Neighborizer target since DGB is targeting people who are top town reads, I think it makes less sense for him to RB Cheeky over DGB.

We also know DGB isn't aesthetic because Mega got a result. Other people mentioned Alien and looking it up on the wiki, I think that's the only way it makes sense for so many people to get no result while DGB also gets a false positive. If this is what happened, then DGB's role can be used against it to falsely accuse town and then likely get it mis-elim'd afterwards.

However, Shrek's response still looks weird. Like he wasn't expecting for DGB to still get a result at all and doesn't understand why DGB isn't claiming an unsuccessful/blocked check over a guilty result.
You're ignoring that Mega can be Scum with DGB.
If Mega is scum with DGB then you aren't confirmed town either and we got zero info out of this hood. We always vote Shrek first here, and if he flips green then we consider DGB + Mega. You seem to trust DGB though so I'm not sure why you're suggesting that pairing?

No, actually. I believe Shrek. And I believe Cheeky. Cheeky is clear regardless. Shrek less so, but seems to be pointing in that direction.

If I had to pick a Scum team, I'd go with Gamma, Roden, DGB, Mega. I don't like all the derps that DGB had regarding their claim. That really rubs me the wrong way. I also think DGB didn't actually use a NA last Night.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2910 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:06 am

In post 2908, Roden wrote:
In post 2900, LicketyQuickety wrote:So... who's up for a Gamma Elim?
Why would we do Gamma first instead of Shrek???

Because I gut believe Shrek. I'd like to see what Shrek has to say about their N1, but given Mega's result, I think that more or less clears Shrek unless Shrek is rolestopper.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2911 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:07 am

ok no I wasn't as behind as I thought

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2912 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:08 am

In post 2871, MegAzumarill wrote:Results:
CheekyTeeky and Shrek visited DrippingGoofball last night.

I just thought of an explanation for what's going on that pretty much explains this, and if it's right StD did not target DGB (or he did but was directly targeted)

Dwlee99 · Post Post #2913 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:09 am

Shrek can't be a rolestopper. Shrek also claimed no result, not your target didn't visit anyone.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2914 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:10 am

In post 2912, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2871, MegAzumarill wrote:Results:
CheekyTeeky and Shrek visited DrippingGoofball last night.
I just thought of an explanation for what's going on that pretty much explains this, and if it's right StD did not target DGB (or he did but was directly targeted)

Which is what?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2915 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:11 am

In post 2913, Dwlee99 wrote:Shrek can't be a rolestopper. Shrek also claimed no result, not your target didn't visit anyone.

Tracker sees what the targeted person targets. Watcher sees who targeted the target.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2916 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:12 am

In post 2914, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2912, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2871, MegAzumarill wrote:Results:
CheekyTeeky and Shrek visited DrippingGoofball last night.
I just thought of an explanation for what's going on that pretty much explains this, and if it's right StD did not target DGB (or he did but was directly targeted)
Which is what?

MegA is scum rolestopper or alien, and waited out everyone else to see who they could claim visited DGB

Roden · Post Post #2917 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:12 am

In post 2909, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2907, Roden wrote:
In post 2898, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2897, Roden wrote:
In post 2726, Roden wrote:I'm so confused?

Cheeky checked DGB and got no result.

Shrek checked DGB and got no result.

DGB checked Shrek and got no result.

How does any of that make any sense?
Ok, to add to this with the new info we got:

Mega watched DGB and saw Shrek and Cheeky visit. StD did not target DGB.

This means DGB wasn't the NK target. Idk who scum targeted, but this does mean they couldn't have blocked Cheeky unless they were fully allowing DGB to check someone. If Shrek is scum and knows he's a likely Loyal Neighborizer target since DGB is targeting people who are top town reads, I think it makes less sense for him to RB Cheeky over DGB.

We also know DGB isn't aesthetic because Mega got a result. Other people mentioned Alien and looking it up on the wiki, I think that's the only way it makes sense for so many people to get no result while DGB also gets a false positive. If this is what happened, then DGB's role can be used against it to falsely accuse town and then likely get it mis-elim'd afterwards.

However, Shrek's response still looks weird. Like he wasn't expecting for DGB to still get a result at all and doesn't understand why DGB isn't claiming an unsuccessful/blocked check over a guilty result.
You're ignoring that Mega can be Scum with DGB.
If Mega is scum with DGB then you aren't confirmed town either and we got zero info out of this hood. We always vote Shrek first here, and if he flips green then we consider DGB + Mega. You seem to trust DGB though so I'm not sure why you're suggesting that pairing?
No, actually. I believe Shrek. And I believe Cheeky. Cheeky is clear regardless. Shrek less so, but seems to be pointing in that direction.

If I had to pick a Scum team, I'd go with Gamma, Roden, DGB, Mega. I don't like all the derps that DGB had regarding their claim. That really rubs me the wrong way. I also think DGB didn't actually use a NA last Night.

How do Gamma and I fit onto this scum team...?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2918 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:13 am

In post 2896, DrippingGoofball wrote:Can you imagine being a tracker and not mentioning your Night 1 result?

FYI this is a solid point

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2919 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:14 am

In post 2916, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2914, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2912, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2871, MegAzumarill wrote:Results:
CheekyTeeky and Shrek visited DrippingGoofball last night.
I just thought of an explanation for what's going on that pretty much explains this, and if it's right StD did not target DGB (or he did but was directly targeted)
Which is what?
MegA is scum rolestopper or alien, and waited out everyone else to see who they could claim visited DGB

I mean, it's a wash anyway you put it. The only person 100% cleared is Cheeky. Any of the others, or combination could be Scum (but I don't think Shrek is Scum with DGB or Mega).

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2920 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:14 am

In post 2918, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2896, DrippingGoofball wrote:Can you imagine being a tracker and not mentioning your Night 1 result?
FYI this is a solid point

Not if they didn't get a result.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2921 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:15 am

In post 2920, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2918, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2896, DrippingGoofball wrote:Can you imagine being a tracker and not mentioning your Night 1 result?
FYI this is a solid point
Not if they didn't get a result.

maybe don't give potential scum excuses?
You're basically being the fifth scum rn with how shitty your direction is today

Roden · Post Post #2922 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:16 am

In post 2910, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2908, Roden wrote:
In post 2900, LicketyQuickety wrote:So... who's up for a Gamma Elim?
Why would we do Gamma first instead of Shrek???
Because I gut believe Shrek. I'd like to see what Shrek has to say about their N1, but given Mega's result, I think that more or less clears Shrek unless Shrek is rolestopper.

But how does Gamma fit into the equation here? I do have them in my scum pool, but they're not involved with the hood situation at all. Gamma's flip doesn't prove who's lying and who's telling the truth, while Shrek's flip would.

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #2923 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:17 am

In post 2874, Dwlee99 wrote:How did you get a result but cheeky and Shrek didn't

Because I was roleblocked! Shrek is scum! You people...

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2924 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:17 am

In post 2922, Roden wrote:
In post 2910, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2908, Roden wrote:
In post 2900, LicketyQuickety wrote:So... who's up for a Gamma Elim?
Why would we do Gamma first instead of Shrek???
Because I gut believe Shrek. I'd like to see what Shrek has to say about their N1, but given Mega's result, I think that more or less clears Shrek unless Shrek is rolestopper.
But how does Gamma fit into the equation here? I do have them in my scum pool, but they're not involved with the hood situation at all. Gamma's flip doesn't prove who's lying and who's telling the truth, while Shrek's flip would.

Because I can see a world where Scum twist it to their liking D4 and push a false narrative. That's why we let the NK's sort it out.