mini normal 2226; who won

[DkKoba]

i am getting cold feet on alchemist because he's pushing titus and i'm not sure scum would be pushing titus here

but he's not doing much of anything else and i'm not sure if the above is enough to offset the rest of his play

I thought the way he was recently posting showcased a towny perspective of viewing the game

[DkKoba]

oh, that was me saying "i really want to believe that titus is right about mathblade being town, but that post makes me doubt him again"

rn im more at "titus is TMIing math" but im at the point where i feel comfy eliminating 100% titus/ math together. Math seems to be genuinely approaching the game the more he speaks.

I'm very hesitant on titus because ive misread titus to no end and I'm feeling similar to when ive misread her in the past.

[lukewarm-titus-ari-gamma] is my gun to head poe with a couple there as "what if the top scumread flips town"

[Lukewarm]

have you explained your trs on math and ari further than in the looking for associates post?

also, the way you say it makes me think you're stull suspecting chaos

I did a town case on Ari day 2. Can find it later if you need it.

For math, I in general really like the tone of his posts, and also all of the star wars and Sophie talk with Titus makes me think he is town. I also don't think that if math was scum that T3 would have died day 1 or that there would have been a failed kill day 2.

As for Chaos. Yeah. He was my top scum read all the way to the moment he claimed pr. Which is enough for me to take him off the table for now, but like. I was really sure before, and he has indicated that he has no interest in answering the questions I have to determine if I trust the pr claim. So. Currently just tabling that read, and hoping either him and I die before elo and I never have to work out if that was just a tunnel or not.

[DkKoba]

i am getting cold feet on alchemist because he's pushing titus and i'm not sure scum would be pushing titus here

but he's not doing much of anything else and i'm not sure if the above is enough to offset the rest of his play

I thought the way he was recently posting showcased a towny perspective of viewing the game

VOTE: lukewarm

[ChaosOmega]

I'm not really feeling Koba as scum here. They had opportunity to mislim me D2 and D3 and didn't, and also probably would not have gotten a lot of heat for it.

Need to read back through some of the posts here, but I'm busy at work today, so this might have to wait until tomorrow.

[Alchemist21]

I’m pretty sure Koba’s not scum. The transition from “not gonna tryhard lol” to now trying reads like Town that wanted to hold back but couldn’t help themselves.

[Datisi]

i am getting cold feet on alchemist because he's pushing titus and i'm not sure scum would be pushing titus here

but he's not doing much of anything else and i'm not sure if the above is enough to offset the rest of his play

I thought the way he was recently posting showcased a towny perspective of viewing the game

can you show which posts make you think this?

[Lukewarm]

I’m pretty sure Koba’s not scum. The transition from “not gonna tryhard lol” to now trying reads like Town that wanted to hold back but couldn’t help themselves.

Why could it not be scum who sees they are starting to garner suspicions, and decided that they could not just sit back?

"started efforting" seems like a pretty weak reason to be "pretty sure" that he is town x.x

[DkKoba]

I started efforting when Chaos was top wagon - your point is denied

[Lukewarm]

oh, that was me saying "i really want to believe that titus is right about mathblade being town, but that post makes me doubt him again"

rn im more at "titus is TMIing math" but im at the point where i feel comfy eliminating 100% titus/ math together. Math seems to be genuinely approaching the game the more he speaks.

I'm very hesitant on titus because ive misread titus to no end and I'm feeling similar to when ive misread her in the past.

[lukewarm-titus-ari-gamma] is my gun to head poe with a couple there as "what if the top scumread flips town"

His gth poe are the three people who have voiced suspicions on him + ari

@Koba, weren't you trying to town block with ari earlier? What changed your read on her?

[Titus]

I’m pretty sure Koba’s not scum. The transition from “not gonna tryhard lol” to now trying reads like Town that wanted to hold back but couldn’t help themselves.

When did you see this shift?

[Lukewarm]

I did a town case on Ari day 2. Can find it later if you need it.

does anyone have a direct objection to my Aristeia push?

I like ari for town, and would much prefer chaos or even umlaut

why? I was kinda hoping you and anyone else who spoke up would provide some sort of counterargument to what I'd said

They started with a laissez-faire attitude, that I think is pretty clearly an alt gimmick.

But then their hunger to solve has poked through that facade at various points. 265 666 671 690 703 722. This break from character makes less sense to me coming from scum. A scum ari could hide behind the gimiick more, but then some heavy solving barreled out anyways.

And end of day 1 there was is a lot of effort going out into that prism scum read that 100% depended on a meg scum flip, and then meg flipped town, so that was like a LOT of wasted effort for scum!ari. Similar to T3 doing all of that meta dive work to get a town read on Datsi, that was a lot of mental gymnastics to put us into a game state of town reading prism / not_mafia. I think I would be more suspicious if she had actually tried to push that narrative into a Prism elim, but she didn't.

And then today, this felt like a wild change of pace for scum!ari to make, but also very very similar to what I was thinking about over night

Mostly cried and had paranoid thoughts about Datisi being a scumbag who's playing with my heart.

[Titus]

I'm not really feeling Koba as scum here. They had opportunity to mislim me D2 and D3 and didn't, and also probably would not have gotten a lot of heat for it.

Need to read back through some of the posts here, but I'm busy at work today, so this might have to wait until tomorrow.

I need support for this conclusion.

Koba didn't start defending you until the PR claim.

[Titus]

For math, I in general really like the tone of his posts, and also all of the star wars and Sophie talk with Titus makes me think he is town. I also don't think that if math was scum that T3 would have died day 1 or that there would have been a failed kill day 2.

Thank you.

[DkKoba]

lukewarm, are you trying to claim i outted this suspicion because of an omgus?

because once i take my weights off, its over. You have 1 last chance to stop pursuing me.

[DkKoba]

I didnt even say chaos was town because of the pr claim lmao it had 0% to do with my read.
Nice try tho

[Lukewarm]

I didnt even say chaos was town because of the pr claim lmao it had 0% to do with my read.
Nice try tho

The point Titus made (and I made earlier) had nothing to do with your reason, and everything to do with the timing...

[Titus]

while i guess it's possible umlaut was preparing to jump on meg wagon if need be (1033) and was waiting to see if that will actually be necessary, that feels like a potentially worse outcome than just like. voting meg immedaitely?

Umlaut was widely suspected. His vote might have killed the wagon.

[DkKoba]

Hey Koba, vote Chaos

i cant betray him another time, sorry

[DkKoba]

your point is i faked a townread - rather no, i saw the mounting pressure on my townread and stepped in.

nice try again tho

[Titus]

I didnt even say chaos was town because of the pr claim lmao it had 0% to do with my read.
Nice try tho

The point Titus made (and I made earlier) had nothing to do with your reason, and everything to do with the timing...

[DkKoba]

that's ok. You dont have enough votes to eliminate me.

[Titus]

Also, I'd rather not claim, but there is a reason I had an about-face on Umlaut after N1 and had my vote locked on him all D2.

[Lukewarm]

Hey Koba, vote Chaos

i cant betray him another time, sorry

And again... This is after Chaos claimed pr, and dats backed him up with the day 2 soft

Spoiler:

It feels like Gamma and Luke are both trying to pull momentum away from Umlaut here.

VOTE: Lukewarm

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Also, I'd rather not claim, but there is a reason I had an about-face on Umlaut after N1 and had my vote locked on him all D2.

no shit lol.

I thought it was obvious enough, but I guess not.

i thought the "umlaut, i was townreading you all of d1, now i'm voting you on d2" was very clear. which is also why i had a slight panic reaction this morning when i saw you were at an unannounced y-2.

[Titus]

The PR claim came before your defense Koba.