mini normal 2226; who won

[Titus]

because gamma's role is clearly odd night and he should have a 100% confiremd green or red check.

with the setup info - a role cop is literally an alignment cop.

Vts don't exist because?

scum neighbor shows up as neighbor.

can't hide from rolecop.

Right. Vts are a thing. False neighbor.

[DkKoba]

nope I softed it to protect the real on but it looks like it was positive utility claimed from my pov in terms of dayplay.

you know who else benefits from those claims happening? SCUM!!!

ok but resolving 2 slots at once is actually pretty useful too.

now you have no excuse for not dying tonight unless there is another no kill - and no one needs to ever tinfoil titus anymore.

[DkKoba]

because gamma's role is clearly odd night and he should have a 100% confiremd green or red check.

with the setup info - a role cop is literally an alignment cop.

Vts don't exist because?

scum neighbor shows up as neighbor.

can't hide from rolecop.

Right. Vts are a thing. False neighbor.

imma just let you figure out why this is a bad statement.

hint: what does VT show up on for a rolecop report vs what does a neighbor show up as on a rolecop report.

[Titus]

Dumb question: Assume Chaos had a guilty on Umlaut?

Explain how two things that can fire that can get guilties on scum?

That’s like moderator no no.

I have concerns here too ngl but all prs are gated is my bet

[Alchemist21]

Ok still a couple pages behind but if Gamma is a rolecop what sort of investigative role would Chaos have? What’s the realistic chance of 2 Town TIs?

[MathBlade]

Dumb question: Assume Chaos had a guilty on Umlaut?

Explain how two things that can fire that can get guilties on scum?

That’s like moderator no no.

I have concerns here too ngl but all prs are gated is my bet

I have my reservations something is hinky here.

This doesn’t add up somewhere but I am going to take my sweet time to figure out what.

Whoever is scum is going to have to kill me or keep up their PR charade and hope I don’t catch on.

[Titus]

because gamma's role is clearly odd night and he should have a 100% confiremd green or red check.

with the setup info - a role cop is literally an alignment cop.

Vts don't exist because?

scum neighbor shows up as neighbor.

can't hide from rolecop.

Right. Vts are a thing. False neighbor.

imma just let you figure out why this is a bad statement.

hint: what does VT show up on for a rolecop report vs what does a neighbor show up as on a rolecop report.

Goons and traitors likely show as vanilla. So 1 hypo guilty

That's not a shoot immediately

[DkKoba]

I don't think this setup has a traitor and its just wifom

[Datisi]

traitors show as traitors

yes i am still awake shut up

[MathBlade]

because gamma's role is clearly odd night and he should have a 100% confiremd green or red check.

with the setup info - a role cop is literally an alignment cop.

Vts don't exist because?

scum neighbor shows up as neighbor.

can't hide from rolecop.

Right. Vts are a thing. False neighbor.

imma just let you figure out why this is a bad statement.

hint: what does VT show up on for a rolecop report vs what does a neighbor show up as on a rolecop report.

Goons and traitors likely show as vanilla. So 1 hypo guilty

That's not a shoot immediately

Nope

A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:
is Mafia-aligned
knows the identities of all of the Mafia team
identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists
cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an "innocent" result to Gunsmiths, and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops

[Alchemist21]

Before I go and pull the things i saw from alch that made me think he is town -> I'd like Alch to present how he feels about the gamestate now that it's shifted dramatically.

Titus is hardcleared unless NM counterclaims.

I think it’s a little convenient for Gamma to claim they targeted Umlaut N1.

I also hate how everyone is at each other’s throats more after the scumflip as opposed to before. The game felt way more cohesive D2.

[Datisi]

that said it's possible the remaining members of the scumteam are neighbour + goon so a "vanilla" result ain't clearing but that's neither here nor there ig

[MathBlade]

Before I go and pull the things i saw from alch that made me think he is town -> I'd like Alch to present how he feels about the gamestate now that it's shifted dramatically.

Titus is hardcleared unless NM counterclaims.

I think it’s a little convenient for Gamma to claim they targeted Umlaut N1.

I also hate how everyone is at each other’s throats more after the scumflip as opposed to before. The game felt way more cohesive D2.

?? not Mafia counterclaims?

*confusion*

What does Not Mafia have to do with any of this?

[Titus]

Dumb question: Assume Chaos had a guilty on Umlaut?

Explain how two things that can fire that can get guilties on scum?

That’s like moderator no no.

I have concerns here too ngl but all prs are gated is my bet

I have my reservations something is hinky here.

This doesn’t add up somewhere but I am going to take my sweet time to figure out what.

Whoever is scum is going to have to kill me or keep up their PR charade and hope I don’t catch on.

The mod made follow the cop impossible. With the gating, a cop doesn't get anymore results after claiming... usually

[Alchemist21]

Dumb question: Assume Chaos had a guilty on Umlaut?

Explain how two things that can fire that can get guilties on scum?

That’s like moderator no no.

Oh I see you beat me to that thought

[MathBlade]

Dumb question: Assume Chaos had a guilty on Umlaut?

Explain how two things that can fire that can get guilties on scum?

That’s like moderator no no.

I have concerns here too ngl but all prs are gated is my bet

I have my reservations something is hinky here.

This doesn’t add up somewhere but I am going to take my sweet time to figure out what.

Whoever is scum is going to have to kill me or keep up their PR charade and hope I don’t catch on.

The mod made follow the cop impossible. With the gating, a cop doesn't get anymore results after claiming... usually

Nah if I assume you and Chaos and Gamma all town follow the cop is still a thing if I assume you’re ungated. If I assume you’re gated then you’re Xshot or even night then by virtue of setup that’s mass claim at open so FTC is a thing.

So I am trying to jam into together all of you town and it feels right gut wise but logically it’s a square peg round hole situation.

[Gamma Emerald]

nope I softed it to protect the real on but it looks like it was positive utility claimed from my pov in terms of dayplay.

you know who else benefits from those claims happening? SCUM!!!

ok but resolving 2 slots at once is actually pretty useful too.

now you have no excuse for not dying tonight unless there is another no kill - and no one needs to ever tinfoil titus anymore.

afaict no one WAS tinfoiling Titus until YOU came along.

[MathBlade]

I am kinda going with it to see how it plays out and I can just coast to victory but seems pretty weird to me.

[Alchemist21]

Before I go and pull the things i saw from alch that made me think he is town -> I'd like Alch to present how he feels about the gamestate now that it's shifted dramatically.

Titus is hardcleared unless NM counterclaims.

I think it’s a little convenient for Gamma to claim they targeted Umlaut N1.

I also hate how everyone is at each other’s throats more after the scumflip as opposed to before. The game felt way more cohesive D2.

?? not Mafia counterclaims?

*confusion*

What does Not Mafia have to do with any of this?

He’s the only person left who could counterclaim because everyone has said something.

Wait I forgot about Luke so there’s another.

But you get my point; I doubt there will be a cc.

[Gamma Emerald]

Before I go and pull the things i saw from alch that made me think he is town -> I'd like Alch to present how he feels about the gamestate now that it's shifted dramatically.

Titus is hardcleared unless NM counterclaims.

I think it’s a little convenient for Gamma to claim they targeted Umlaut N1.

I also hate how everyone is at each other’s throats more after the scumflip as opposed to before. The game felt way more cohesive D2.

But does it not track that me getting blocked > voted the person I tried to target? "I trust Titus" was clearly a BS reason to cover for my NA since Titus voted Umlaut

after

me.

[MathBlade]

Before I go and pull the things i saw from alch that made me think he is town -> I'd like Alch to present how he feels about the gamestate now that it's shifted dramatically.

Titus is hardcleared unless NM counterclaims.

I think it’s a little convenient for Gamma to claim they targeted Umlaut N1.

I also hate how everyone is at each other’s throats more after the scumflip as opposed to before. The game felt way more cohesive D2.

?? not Mafia counterclaims?

*confusion*

What does Not Mafia have to do with any of this?

He’s the only person left who could counterclaim because everyone has said something.

Wait I forgot about Luke so there’s another.

But you get my point; I doubt there will be a cc.

Luke + Alch and slip NM is town?

*spit ballin like a boss*

[Titus]

Before I go and pull the things i saw from alch that made me think he is town -> I'd like Alch to present how he feels about the gamestate now that it's shifted dramatically.

Titus is hardcleared unless NM counterclaims.

I think it’s a little convenient for Gamma to claim they targeted Umlaut N1.

I also hate how everyone is at each other’s throats more after the scumflip as opposed to before. The game felt way more cohesive D2.

?? not Mafia counterclaims?

*confusion*

What does Not Mafia have to do with any of this?

He’s the only person left who could counterclaim because everyone has said something.

Wait I forgot about Luke so there’s another.

But you get my point; I doubt there will be a cc.

Luke + Alch and slip NM is town?

*spit ballin like a boss*

Likely an innocent mistake and I feel Alch is scum.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Alch

Why not? Then I can catch up overnight and see if I find any scum in Titus/Gamma/Chaos.

[Alchemist21]

Before I go and pull the things i saw from alch that made me think he is town -> I'd like Alch to present how he feels about the gamestate now that it's shifted dramatically.

Titus is hardcleared unless NM counterclaims.

I think it’s a little convenient for Gamma to claim they targeted Umlaut N1.

I also hate how everyone is at each other’s throats more after the scumflip as opposed to before. The game felt way more cohesive D2.

But does it not track that me getting blocked > voted the person I tried to target? "I trust Titus" was clearly a BS reason to cover for my NA since Titus voted Umlaut

after

me.

Mate apparently there was a soft guilty from Chaos on Umlaut that people picked up on. There was never really a wagon outside of Umlaut.

Why did you target Umlaut N1? What were your thoughts on Chaos claiming TI who had a guilty on Umlaut?

[DkKoba]

that said it's possible the remaining members of the scumteam are neighbour + goon so a "vanilla" result ain't clearing but that's neither here nor there ig

oh my brain lol


i forgot that being in a scum pt makes u automatically in a PT .. the neighbor flip from umlaut just sorta made my brain shut off and think that it had to be so.

another townslip oops!