Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

[Medea the Alien]

Luke, if we're accepting you're NEVER getting sharded of your own volition, I think we need to finish massclaim.

Your plan may or may not get used. But regardless as the shiny green mosueboy stated, still gotta FIND the scum.

Your plan has the potential of us putting ourselves into traditional ELO anwyays JUST to lockout the alt wincon.

[Medea the Alien]

trustfall: bork

That he gave us adequate ways to fight against the alt win con

to borrow some of the terminology of the group

I would eat my hat if titus flipped town.

I am down to take the LLD trade on Titus being scum.

Also yes, Rhea, this was seen and we chuckled.

[Medea the Alien]

If corruptor HAD to turn demon N1, it's just AA9. :/
And we were wrong, humble pie for us. Self-loathing flavor.

[Lukewarm]

Luke, if we're accepting you're NEVER getting sharded of your own volition, I think we need to finish massclaim.

Your plan may or may not get used. But regardless as the shiny green mosueboy stated, still gotta FIND the scum.

Your plan has the potential of us putting ourselves into traditional ELO anwyays JUST to lockout the alt wincon.

It would lock out the alt win con

And still let's us kill our top suspect along the way. so if they flip scum we will not be in Elo anyways, but if they flip town

then we are are at Elo with half the suspects (inluding our top incorrect suspect) dead.

[Medea the Alien]

I still suspect it's novice though.

That only works as town, and becomes Goon as demon, such that scum can't self-demonize both members unless they wish to lose access to the corruption giver.

[Spiffeh]

What has AA9 done that has been remotely Town today?

Other than overtly “not understand” the setup once again?

[Medea the Alien]

Ffery, you around? I need to bounce something off of you.

[Lukewarm]

Luke, if we're accepting you're NEVER getting sharded of your own volition, I think we need to finish massclaim.

I did not claim BECAUSE I know I am not getting it of my own volition, and I am making it harder for them to decide between sharing me or whoever else is still human.

[Spiffeh]

Lukewarm instead of spending multiple posts explaining why you shouldn’t have to give us any reads you could have just provided your reads

You are being purposely unhelpful. I understand you believe this plan is the ideal path forward. Town still can’t win unless we lim scum and it is perfectly reasonable to request your thoughts on this front.

Can you knock it off? This is reinforcing my NON-townread of you

[Lukewarm]

I am currently a vt, and so I have no prior actions to claim to help us. And I am going to still be a vt tonight, so there is no action for tonight to plan.

Stating it now only helps the scum team make an optimal choice tonight (ESPECIALLY if we are not going with my plan)

[Snarky Fishes]

I'm here.

[Lukewarm]

@lld

You are the one who first pointed out the desharder option for manatee.

Are you in favor of this plan, or no?

[Spiffeh]

Like Luke I don't remember you having a read other than your Titus scum read? On Day 1?

Can you see why this I find it problematic that you won't even humor any of us and give us SOMETHING other than farfetched plans that rely on like three things breaking in Town's favor in order to save us?

[Lukewarm]

Lukewarm instead of spending multiple posts explaining why you shouldn’t have to give us any reads you could have just provided your reads

I made... One post about that...

I said no, and then I moved on to other things.

[Medea the Alien]

I'm here.

Looking at my wall of role claims a few pages ago, and with the theory that the novice corrupter can only act as human... do you see what I see?

[Spiffeh]

There’s another one!

Thanks for proving my point!

[Snarky Fishes]

Lukewarm instead of spending multiple posts explaining why you shouldn’t have to give us any reads you could have just provided your reads

I made... One post about that...

I said no, and then I moved on to other things.

Are there any humans you're scumreading currently?

[Medea the Alien]

Literally just state your reads for fuck's sake. This isn't some trick question on an exam.

[Medea the Alien]

Like I get it you have a big shiny plan, but fuck that, reads matter too.

Especially since mechwise you're in the corrupter pool.

[Snarky Fishes]

I'm here.

Looking at my wall of role claims a few pages ago, and with the theory that the novice corrupter can only act as human... do you see what I see?

If I see what you're seeing, I'm trying to fit it in with the current stance and I'm confused.

So maybe you see something different.

[Medea the Alien]

What claim or claims here has justification for wanting to stay human?

Gonna color this using light green for semi-clears. Remember that optimal play that doesn't fuck us over is to hit explicitly the curser today. This is MECH coloring, not reads coloring.

1. Annie Edison (notscience/The Bulge) - VT/1-shot Cop

2. ArcAngel9 - VT/VT

3. Dunnstral - Reflexive Rolename Cop / Reflexive self-watching rolecop (Role is proven to do what he claims it is as he was able to state the role name of people.
If scum is explicitly NOT the curser)

4. Here There Be Dragons (cephrir/Save the Dragons) VT/Desharder (A desharded has to exist and be town or setup's completely fucked from the getgo and jsut go lolsetup postgame and go burn down WI

5. Lady Lambdadelta - Demon-Adverse Hider/??? (Proven nights of results, role confirmed by Dunn reflexively, Scum don't need a demon cop in this setup...)

6. Lukewarm - VT/???

7. ManateeGal - VT/Backup of ???

8. Medea the Alien (cabd/penguin_alien) VT/Introverted Doctor (Starts with two shards) (Can only be scum explicitly with Dunn as a self-watcher)

9. PookyTheMagicalBear - Beloved Princess

10. unwnd - 1-Shot human shard distributor / demonic vanilla townie

11. Snarky fishes (Bell/fferyllt) Supersaint/Vengeful (Only scum if the game explicitly is guaranteed to be over even with their elim today, and even if so that makes them NOT the curser)

12. Spiffeh - VT/Macho Deathseeking Bodyguard (Can only be scum explicitly with Annie Edison AND proven to be human as of night three)

13. Titus - VT/Friendly Neighbor

[Snarky Fishes]

yeah. I was thinking about Luke, but unwnd, also.

[Here There Be Dragons]

how dumb are we if we 4D chess our way out of spiffeh's correct case

[Medea the Alien]

Here's our theory on the scum plan, if it's not AA9:

Demonize AA9 N1, not following game. Corrupt and demonize MG N2 (not very active and not charismatic enough in this playerlist to gain traction) plus demonize AE. N3 corrupt SF (they claimed to have a weird useless role) and demonize Spiffeh, who was only active when getting Pooky deaded, and might be limmable.

[Medea the Alien]

how dumb are we if we 4D chess our way out of spiffeh's correct case

You mean like the Titus case?