Newbie 2076 [Game Over]

[LicketyQuickety]

If you're asking about the RQS scum tell sample size, you've been on this site long enough to know that one.

If it's the "tbh" tell I'm not sure how you expect me to source that unless you want me to comb through every newbie game and CTRL+F scum ISO's for "tbh" and "honestly". Which uh, I'm not gonna do. But I'm clearly not the only one who's heard of that tell anyway.

Going back to this, this is pretty Scummy?

Feels sorta like fake.

Ditto except in reference to your response.

I'll be honest, IDK what this means.

[T3]

Meta is for nerds I prefer to learn through experience.

I forgot why I quoted this

[LicketyQuickety]

Meta is for nerds I prefer to learn through experience.

I forgot why I quoted this

Actually, comical.

[Ythan]

I'm no stranger to getting tilted over a mafia game. I think you're neat I just gotta vote you rn.

[T3]

CRINGEEEEEEEEEEEE pages 19-23&
LQ is town though.

[Ythan]

If you're asking about the RQS scum tell sample size, you've been on this site long enough to know that one.

If it's the "tbh" tell I'm not sure how you expect me to source that unless you want me to comb through every newbie game and CTRL+F scum ISO's for "tbh" and "honestly". Which uh, I'm not gonna do. But I'm clearly not the only one who's heard of that tell anyway.

Going back to this, this is pretty Scummy?

Feels sorta like fake.

Ditto except in reference to your response.

I'll be honest, IDK what this means.

Feels sorta like fake.

Are you spending this time trying to sort me?

[LicketyQuickety]

If you're asking about the RQS scum tell sample size, you've been on this site long enough to know that one.

If it's the "tbh" tell I'm not sure how you expect me to source that unless you want me to comb through every newbie game and CTRL+F scum ISO's for "tbh" and "honestly". Which uh, I'm not gonna do. But I'm clearly not the only one who's heard of that tell anyway.

Going back to this, this is pretty Scummy?

Feels sorta like fake.

Ditto except in reference to your response.

I'll be honest, IDK what this means.

Feels sorta like fake.

Are you spending this time trying to sort me?

You're outed tracker and no one has CC'd that. So I don't really feel like I have to sort you until there's a CC somewhere, and that doesn't look very likely since everyone already knows you claimed. I mean, COULD your slot claim tracker as Scum? I suppose. But I would not expect that from a newbie. I was more just wondering what you meant in that post since it was hard for me to follow exactly what you were saying. I thought you were agreeing with me, but then I didn't know what the rest was about.

[Ythan]

Mafia not killing anyone is worse than them killing a VT. It's not logical for them to take that risk.

Are you suggesting that Scum will not used their NK if we do this strategy?

No. I'm saying that scum going for Tracker in a 50/50 nk/kill tracker isn't worth it if it fails.

VOTE: T3

Switching vote to T3 for what is either some wild scummy behaviour, or a galaxy brain townie that will lead us astray anyway.

If we reveal who tracker is, scum knows who tracker is. They also know that, whatever the setup, there is one town PR left, and if they manage to snipe them, they can take out the tracker, who they 100% already know. Town is automatically far more likely to lose both power roles, if chance alone is factored in.

If we don't reveal tracker, the likelihood that town randomly loses both PRs by d3 is 2/7 * 1/6 = ~4.8% chance. This is not even taking into account whether we have a doctor, and if we do, that chance is lessened even more.

On the other hand, if we do reveal tracker, the chance that we lose both PRs by d3 is the chance of randomly picking the doctor out of the remaining 6 townies, allowing them to kill the tracker n2, giving 1/6 = ~17% chance. Here, there is no real doctor to lessen the chance further, as doc needs to protect tracker on the off chance scum play a wild card and kill tracker as a fake (risk of this happening is higher than the probability of randomly picking the 1/6 townie that scum will also target).

That is how much we screw ourselves by revealing a role. <4.8% chance of randomly losing both PRs goes up to ~17% chance.

As T3 is a seasoned forum player, I'd expect them to know this, or have at least observed it. Absolutely scum read on T3.

I don't really love all the hedging in this.

[Ythan]

Don't like this vote. IIRC there was something like this brought up in past Newbie games.

Honestly sincerely would love to see one or more games where you have witnessed this before.

[Ythan]

Still on the side of tracker claiming late d1 imo

Lol

[LicketyQuickety]

Don't like this vote. IIRC there was something like this brought up in past Newbie games.

Honestly sincerely would love to see one or more games where you have witnessed this before.

I'd have to dig. Want me to? I suspect it won't change your read on me so it's kinda pointless, but I will if you want me to.

[Ythan]

Don't like this vote. IIRC there was something like this brought up in past Newbie games.

Honestly sincerely would love to see one or more games where you have witnessed this before.

I'd have to dig. Want me to? I suspect it won't change your read on me so it's kinda pointless, but I will if you want me to.

I am considering moving my vote but don't be surprised if I don't.

You repeatedly saying this is normal when I don't think that's true is a sticking point though.

[LicketyQuickety]

Don't like this vote. IIRC there was something like this brought up in past Newbie games.

Honestly sincerely would love to see one or more games where you have witnessed this before.

I'd have to dig. Want me to? I suspect it won't change your read on me so it's kinda pointless, but I will if you want me to.

I am considering moving my vote but don't be surprised if I don't.

You repeatedly saying this is normal when I don't think that's true is a sticking point though.

Found it, just in case you were wondering. I used to go by Quick. Actually I started as LQ then made a main alt of Quick, then went back to LQ. IDK if this matters to you or not, but here's where I saw it at least once.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10116096

[Ythan]

Thank you.

[LicketyQuickety]

Okay, going to buy groceries. Don't hammer before I get back.

[Ythan]

The number 8

[LicketyQuickety]

The number 8

Huh?

[LicketyQuickety]

You mean 8th on the player list, me?

[Ythan]

No I'm keeping track of where I am in a review. I feel extra free to just post whatever given my position.

[Ythan]

VOTE: T3

For being so low energy. Can't talk about this read much, but I do think T3 doesn't have much vigor this game. He also isn't explaining himself very well. Both things point to him being red.

But since Hockey has played with T3 before I want them to answer if T3 was this low energy in the game they played together. Will check for myself.

I just really don't buy a lot of stuff you say and here's an example. I don't really think the points you started from are true, and I don't think the conclusion you draw from those points makes sense either.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: T3

For being so low energy. Can't talk about this read much, but I do think T3 doesn't have much vigor this game. He also isn't explaining himself very well. Both things point to him being red.

But since Hockey has played with T3 before I want them to answer if T3 was this low energy in the game they played together. Will check for myself.

I just really don't buy a lot of stuff you say and here's an example. I don't really think the points you started from are true, and I don't think the conclusion you draw from those points makes sense either.

I mean, when T3 actually agrees with me about this I'm not really sure why you would think these would be bad points.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: T3

For being so low energy. Can't talk about this read much, but I do think T3 doesn't have much vigor this game. He also isn't explaining himself very well. Both things point to him being red.

But since Hockey has played with T3 before I want them to answer if T3 was this low energy in the game they played together. Will check for myself.

I'm very low energy because this is a stagnant newbie.

Like, plain black and white that T3 is agreeing with me. It's for a different reason, but it does say I had a point about T3.

Seriously Ythan, your case on me is BAD.

[Ythan]

VOTE: T3

For being so low energy. Can't talk about this read much, but I do think T3 doesn't have much vigor this game. He also isn't explaining himself very well. Both things point to him being red.

But since Hockey has played with T3 before I want them to answer if T3 was this low energy in the game they played together. Will check for myself.

I just really don't buy a lot of stuff you say and here's an example. I don't really think the points you started from are true, and I don't think the conclusion you draw from those points makes sense either.

I mean, when T3 actually agrees with me about this I'm not really sure why you would think these would be bad points.

He acknowledged he was low energy, I don't believe I saw him agree with the other. I still think they're illogical points to pick out and you didn't respond to the bit about how your conclusions don't make sense.

[Ythan]

VOTE: T3

For being so low energy. Can't talk about this read much, but I do think T3 doesn't have much vigor this game. He also isn't explaining himself very well. Both things point to him being red.

But since Hockey has played with T3 before I want them to answer if T3 was this low energy in the game they played together. Will check for myself.

I'm very low energy because this is a stagnant newbie.

Like, plain black and white that T3 is agreeing with me. It's for a different reason, but it does say I had a point about T3.

Seriously Ythan, your case on me is BAD.

I'm perfectly content to let you hang if it means I don't hear anymore ATE for the rest of the game, tread lightly.

[Ythan]

The number 10