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[Jolyne]

I was someone trying to not alt slip but also now I can say that what alignment I say kyouko is is what people are sheeping for the rest of the game no questions asked, I have a recent 100% read rate on kyouko as both alignments and they won't break out of it unless they evolve away from playing with me

[Jolyne]

somewhat*

[Ythan]

Sounds deeper with someone.

[Ythan]

I'm at work pardon the shitposting.

[DrippingGoofball]

hi

[DrippingGoofball]

I totally forgot about this game.

[Nathann]

Do you have a read on Kazyan outside of 64?

Their readslist seemed fine, but I do agree with (I think it was) you when you pointed out that the vote didn’t match the strongest SR. That seemed interesting.

The readslist is as fine as a page 6 readslist can be. Interesting definitely, though I'd be lying if I said it makes me lean one alignment over the other.

Anyway, the reason I ask. Kazyan is the person I was getting scumpings on earlier. Things like responding with "good point" when there was no point made (46) or pointing out how there's not enough info for them to do anything

while

there was somewhat productive discussion happening around the (92) pinged me the wrong way. Readlist was okay, and I disliked the focus on teamreads rather than individual reads, as that feels like an easy way to stay busy while not actually helping. The explanation for that in 257 is okay, I guess.

The reason I out this now is because I realize I'm slowly getting tunnelled on that read, and could probably use a sanity check. And you were the only one (I think) to express a read on them earlier, and I'm gonna cheat slightly and sheep our IC's read on you for the time being, so. What do you think?

Of course, others' takes also welcome.

[Ythan]

Hi DGB.

[Nathann]

I think it’s Scummy that DW called a whole post Towny thoughts, was challenged on the content of the post they said contained a Towny thought process (even though clearly they don’t think all of the content makes sense), and then narrowed the scope of their comment to the first paragraph when the second paragraph clearly follows from the first (and said the second paragraph was NAI). What I guess I’m saying is that we could be seeing fake reasoning for a read (that I think is correct, funny enough). It just seemed like a really superficial read to me.

Don't think I'm gonna agree. I can see where you're coming from, and if I think about it a bit more, I can see the backpedalling of "it was only the first paragraph" as Scum caught in a shallow read. But I think it's just as likely that that was Town!Dwlee who thought of the first paragraph as Townie, and didn't bother to specify which part of the post they were referring to. And having skimmed that part of their ISO and not seeing evidence of them calling the second paragraph Townie then backpedalling (and since I already had some Townie gutpings on Dwlee), I'm gonna go with the latter.

[Enchant]

Why you say setup is easy to exploit?

Is this known already?

[Nathann]

Still, Dwlee is currently one of those cases where the evidence seems to point to scum, so that's where I should vote...but for whatever reason, my heart isn't in it.

I am kind of inclined to Townread this, considering this is something I often feel. Easily faked, but does Scum think to fake it...

I'm not accepting criticism.

Heh.

I'd be lying if I said I fully get why the reaction of "what if Traitor" is a Towntell while assuming three Scum isn't, but I don't plan on arguing about it for now.

[Nathann]

I get that he was sticking out, but it looked like sticking out in a Townie manner.

Don't see what you're seeing.

I skipped over this - I dunno, he just gives me the vibe of a Townie doing dumb things not caring how he looks. I assume Scum would probably be aware that openly speculating on the IC and listing claimed roles repeatedly will do nothing but potentially piss people off and bring heat his way. And considering geraintm said himself (or has it been mentioned by Andres? I don't care enough to go back to look) that he's not a strong player Day 1, doesn't that just unnecessarily increase the odds he gets yeeted?

Obviously it could be a bluff by Scum, but that requires a bit higher level of play that my gut tells me he's not playing on here. Which, again, if there's evidence to geraintm playing this way on Day 1 as Scum, I'm open to reconsideration. I am getting kind of worried about him being gone anyway, but I'm not sure if I should actually be expecting anything.

[DrippingGoofball]

From my skimming of the those games, DGB would be fuming right now

What am I missing?

[Dwlee99]

From my skimming of the those games, DGB would be fuming right now

What am I missing?

Game seems to try to screw with the players by having weird things. One of the games had two millers

[DrippingGoofball]

Nixie is town.

CLAIM: Day 8 Guilty Hag.

[DrippingGoofball]

I like Nathann for town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Confirmed Town

:
Jolyne (duh)

Townread

:
ssbm_Kyouko (actual attempts to solve the game without trying to cover her butt. Town wants to be right; this is what Kyo is doing)

Townlean

:
Nixie (trying to guide the conversation somewhere useful instead of letting a not-very-talkative town waste their time)
Nathann (gut read--his actions aren't obviously town, but I get a vibe)
geraintm (I think this guy is just a goober, not flailing scum.)

Null

:
Ythan (Coming out with a scumread does seem Ythan!town-y. Could also be trying to Rush Posting as scum, since that's what we all learned from NQN)

"Pls post" Pile

:
Andresvmb
DGB
MargotRose

Scumlean

:
Alice (stilted, fake-seeming communication style)
GrandpaMo (gut read; don't take this too seriously because I'm garbage at scumhunting)

Scumread

:
Dwlee99 (There's a lot of gags and a few opinions in Dwlee's ISO, but zero solvy energy, despite apparently having a strong townread. Picking on Ythan feels opportunistic.)

I hate this list.

[DrippingGoofball]

Could also be trying to Rush Posting as scum, since that's what we all learned from NQN

Twelve years I've been on this site. 2021 games are not a learning experience for me.

noob

[DrippingGoofball]

Andres is scum.

[Jolyne]

Andres is scum.

I will push a policy on you if you try to push him.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm not getting geraintm town vibes, but it's early in the game and I have faith I'll be able to read that slot eventually.

[Jolyne]

I don't care how sure you think you are, I know the nuances of Andres' towngame and there's much more reason to townlock him than not.

[DrippingGoofball]

Andres is scum.

I will push a policy on you if you try to push him.

Go on.

VOTE: Andres

[Jolyne]

How do you feel about AliceK, DGB?

[DrippingGoofball]

Enchant is scum.