Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over


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Post Post #4575 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:54 am

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Post Post #4576 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:54 am

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In post 4571, Snarky Fishes wrote:Cabd want to talk about the corrupter?
It's within {AA9, Unwnd, AE} for us. Even though I have above-zero townreads on those names.

It doesn't make sense to be manatee right now. It doesn't really make sense for it to be Luke.

Once Olivia is asleep tonight Penguin and I are gonna pull out our tool we use to calculate best and worst case scenarios when designing setups and run it on our current situation.
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Post Post #4577 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:55 am

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And we do not appear particularly unified or confident on having the correct solve atm
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Post Post #4578 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:57 am

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Corrupter:

Can't be Rhea, or Me, or you, or Dunn.

Can't be spiffeh unless it's explciitly AA-Spiffeh but then Rhea's result makes no sense, so it's not spiffeh.

Can't be Cephtd unless setup is comepltely and utterly a middle finger at town.

That literally leaves those five names:
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Post Post #4579 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:02 pm

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In post 4576, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 4571, Snarky Fishes wrote:Cabd want to talk about the corrupter?
It's within {AA9, Unwnd, AE} for us. Even though I have above-zero townreads on those names.

It doesn't make sense to be manatee right now. It doesn't really make sense for it to be Luke.

Once Olivia is asleep tonight Penguin and I are gonna pull out our tool we use to calculate best and worst case scenarios when designing setups and run it on our current situation.
Explain why it doesn't really make sense for it to be Luke?

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Also, Luke, you said something about having planned to ask me about Bulge.

IME he's usually a very low activity player and I've seen him miselimmed in part due to that lack of activity in more than one game.

His activity level in the Annie hydra here looks about the same as in the Annie hydra's activity level in Tenet.

I feel like focusing on a read of him in the Annie hydra is kinda similar to focusing on a read of me in this hydra.
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Post Post #4580 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:03 pm

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In post 4579, Snarky Fishes wrote:Explain why it doesn't really make sense for it to be Luke?
Can I take a raincheck on this until after we run some numbers? It'll be like 3 hours form now tops. After your walkies.
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Post Post #4581 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:03 pm

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He said he was going out for milk :(
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Post Post #4582 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:04 pm

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Did I imagine a theory being posted earlier to the effect that the corrupter would have to be human?


pedit walkies probs in 3 hours and not likely sooner because it's fucking hot and smoky out.
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Post Post #4583 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:06 pm

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In post 4582, Snarky Fishes wrote:Did I imagine a theory being posted earlier to the effect that the corrupter would have to be human?


pedit walkies probs in 3 hours and not likely sooner because it's fucking hot and smoky out.
That was my setup-being-fair thought. SO that mafia can't just self-corrupt both of themselves as soon as pooks dies.
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Post Post #4584 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:11 pm

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In post 4579, Snarky Fishes wrote:Also, Luke, you said something about having planned to ask me about Bulge.

IME he's usually a very low activity player and I've seen him miselimmed in part due to that lack of activity in more than one game.

His activity level in the Annie hydra here looks about the same as in the Annie hydra's activity level in Tenet.

I feel like focusing on a read of him in the Annie hydra is kinda similar to focusing on a read of me in this hydra.
Outside of Annie, I have played 1 game with Notty and 2 games with the bulge. All 3 game, they were town and I was also town.

In this game looking at bulge's post, I had him leaning scum when I had him as town reads in both of the others games. So, on a Bulge stand point that is concerning to me.

In this game looking at just notty's post, I had him leaning town (all the way up to the recent couple pages about using your ability, which is not a good look imo), but definitely not as strongly as the other game that I played with him in even before that.
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Post Post #4585 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:13 pm

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In post 4583, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 4582, Snarky Fishes wrote:Did I imagine a theory being posted earlier to the effect that the corrupter would have to be human?


pedit walkies probs in 3 hours and not likely sooner because it's fucking hot and smoky out.
That was my setup-being-fair thought. SO that mafia can't just self-corrupt both of themselves as soon as pooks dies.
If you apply that filter then your list goes down to two names.
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Post Post #4586 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:14 pm

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It’s hard for me to be like Berserker on notty. It’s easier under cobra Kai or anon alts. I’ve been trying to replicate it.

Or if you’re talking about where I lolhammered marci then like… duh this game is different
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Post Post #4587 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:17 pm

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In post 4586, Annie Edison wrote:It’s hard for me to be like Berserker on notty. It’s easier under cobra Kai or anon alts. I’ve been trying to replicate it.

Or if you’re talking about where I lolhammered marci then like… duh this game is different
the lolhammer on marci was an annie game.

I was referring to the FGO game, where you were my number 1 top town read halfway through day 0.

Day 1 of this game, you seemed townie, and I was leaning town on you, but not as strongly as that game.
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Post Post #4588 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:19 pm

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Medea can correct me if I’m wrong, but that was cobra kai play. It’s really hard to replicate under me, and it’s something I’ve repeatedly struggled with (again, this can be verified by others in this game)

Basically the playstyle I chose there isn’t my normal playstyle and even though I want to be more like that all the time I haven’t flipped the switch to be.
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Post Post #4589 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:20 pm

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(This ties back into my discussion with unwnd earlier about pressure, THAT is the standard I am holding myself to)
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Post Post #4590 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:20 pm

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Annie, if we were to go with my plan. Who do you think is a better target in the demonized pool?

The only options in that pool are you, Medea, AA9, Spiffeh,
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Post Post #4591 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:22 pm

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AA9. (But manatee because I have way more tinfoil thoughts there)

I have a clear on Spiffeh and Medea doesn’t make sense as scum with Pooky.
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Post Post #4592 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:32 pm

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In post 4591, Annie Edison wrote:Medea doesn’t make sense as scum with Pooky
What about the two of them makes you feel like they are unaligned?
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Post Post #4593 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:34 pm

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Subject: TENET - Algorithm Assembled
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Post Post #4594 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:39 pm

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In post 4592, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 4591, Annie Edison wrote:Medea doesn’t make sense as scum with Pooky
What about the two of them makes you feel like they are unaligned?
Medea has to be aligned with Dunn

Why are neither of them on pookys final wagon

Why does scum Pooky enter the game lolwagoning scumMedea
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Post Post #4595 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:47 pm

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In post 4593, Medea the Alien wrote:@youknowwho

Subject: TENET - Algorithm Assembled
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Post Post #4596 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:50 pm

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That you're asking "and" means the signal was lost in noise. I'll just state it outright tonight once Penguin and I do our home work.
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Post Post #4597 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:52 pm

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Side note, where’s the neighborhood this game
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Post Post #4598 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:29 pm

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Snarky's role isn't useful for us.

Let's say we find mafia and tell them to vote Snarky Fishes.

Well, they're not going to do it.

So then we wagon that person instead, but if we're asking somebody to hammer Snarky Fishes then we were set on eliminating that person anyway.

The only time Snarky Fishes gets hammered is if the other person is town.
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Post Post #4599 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:31 pm

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In post 4598, Dunnstral wrote:Snarky's role isn't useful for us.

Let's say we find mafia and tell them to vote Snarky Fishes.

Well, they're not going to do it.

So then we wagon that person instead, but if we're asking somebody to hammer Snarky Fishes then we were set on eliminating that person anyway.

The only time Snarky Fishes gets hammered is if the other person is town.
There's a niche case where we can do an Indy Idol Swap here, Penguin will have details.
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