Large Normal 235: Large Normal With No Multiball [Game Over]

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah they were pushing hard for Cyrus but not actually voting them until momentum was there.

hmmm

[CheekyTeeky]

Locktown
{Me} - no explanation needed.
{Nero} - strong town vibes, seems to play somewhat different from his traitor game. Talks to people more. I can bin this.
Townlean
{Cheeky, Shrek} - haven't done anything noticeably scummy, good tone.
{STD} - meta read.
Null-ish
{Meg, Norwe, Roden, DOTW, Dwlee}
{DGB, A50, ArcAngel}
{Testarossa}
Scumlean
{Gamma}
Lockscum
{T3}

This readslist doesn't progress well from the initial reads Kitty had at the start. It also goes with consensus in the thread with little reasoning.

Happy to flip this at some point.

Currently at:

{LicketyQuickety, Gamma Emerald, DrippingGoofball, Roden, ArcAngel9}
{Almost50, Dragon of the West, Dwlee99}
{Shrek, Nero Cain, KittyTacky}

If Shrek flips scum PR it definitely puts Dwlee in the lower bracket.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like Dwlee is scum rather than Nero. I’ve had an instance where I thought two players acting in unison were scum partners but eventually rightfully realized one of them was pocketed. That’s kinda what I feel like Dwlee has been doing with Nero.

[Nero Cain]

If I had bullets cheeky would be dead. Scum could shoot her tonight and try to frame me but sadly she's to important to their cause.

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like Dwlee is scum rather than Nero. I’ve had an instance where I thought two players acting in unison were scum partners but eventually rightfully realized one of them was pocketed. That’s kinda what I feel like Dwlee has been doing with Nero.

Possible.

[CheekyTeeky]

If I had bullets cheeky would be dead. Scum could shoot her tonight and try to frame me but sadly she's to important to their cause.

What am I doing to help their cause?

[Nero Cain]

Town reading gamma and scumreading me to start with

[Gamma Emerald]

Town reading gamma

I expect you to be deepthroating these words once Shrek flips scum

[Nero Cain]

How does a Shrek town flip confirm you as town?

[Nero Cain]

We're scum flip

[Gamma Emerald]

when I caught onto Shrek's slip I went HARD against it, while I'd probably be among those coaching him along if I'm scum with him
but you honestly need look no further than his attempts to paint me as the bad guy coming in today. There's very little to gain as scum by trying to off yet another team member when you're also whipping up a bullshit story to get everyone off your back already. The obvious play there would be to make the countercase to the slip, and attempt to "convince" me, rather than immediately attempt to kill me off.

[Nero Cain]

But like there's like a 0% chance we went you over Shrek and distancing from you isn't the world's worst play

[KittyTacky]

Locktown
{Me} - no explanation needed.
{Nero} - strong town vibes, seems to play somewhat different from his traitor game. Talks to people more. I can bin this.
Townlean
{Cheeky, Shrek} - haven't done anything noticeably scummy, good tone.
{STD} - meta read.
Null-ish
{Meg, Norwe, Roden, DOTW, Dwlee}
{DGB, A50, ArcAngel}
{Testarossa}
Scumlean
{Gamma}
Lockscum
{T3}

This readslist doesn't progress well from the initial reads Kitty had at the start. It also goes with consensus in the thread with little reasoning.

Happy to flip this at some point.

Currently at:

{LicketyQuickety, Gamma Emerald, DrippingGoofball, Roden, ArcAngel9}
{Almost50, Dragon of the West, Dwlee99}
{Shrek, Nero Cain, KittyTacky}

If Shrek flips scum PR it definitely puts Dwlee in the lower bracket.

Well no shit? It was half the game ago, my two readslists were close together. My reads changed quite a bit at this point though.

[Nero Cain]

Gamma am I conf town?

[TemporalLich]

VC 4.3

Shrek (2) - CheekyTeeky, Dwlee99
Gamma Emerald (2) - Shrek, Cat Scratch Fever

Not voting: Almost50, Nero Cain, KittyTacky, Gamma Emerald, ArcAngel9, Dragon of the West, Roden, DrippingGoofball

With 12 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-08-30 21:30:00) or when an exile is reached.

Dragon of the West is V/LA until Sunday.

[Dwlee99]

I would have been fine killing mega through the claim cause it was terrible. I am not the one who insisted we force mega to watch DGB. I am the one who pointed out that mega is much more likely to flip scum because their claim contradicted more things, but you'll try to pre-flip paranoia that I was trying to give a scum PR an extra night there instead of it just being the better play.

[Dwlee99]

Why would you be 2-shot AND even-night? Does this game even last to day 6?

Pretty sure that claim is bullshit but if we want to force them to watch DGB we can.

Why would you be 2-shot AND even-night? Does this game even last to day 6?

Pretty sure that claim is bullshit but if we want to force them to watch DGB we can.

I mean just based on numbers it could last through D6 right? And watcher has the potential to be really strong during the end game

Yes it could but even-night is already an extremely hard nerf to the role.

Yea I think watch DGB, and then if no one added to hood there is either a guilty/inno or scum in Mega/DGB.

I don't know who I want to vote though.

I'll probably end up on Cyrus but STD has a point it is like day one and I don't buy that Cyrus being suicidal is him being scum because he just plays like that. It gives me reminders of the Chrono trigger game that just ended and test was scummy but I just don't feel good as good about flipping him as I do mega cause mega's claim is BS.

I don't understand this narrative that I came up with having mega watch DGB.

You also think that I wouldn't have given mega a better claim than 2-shot even-night watcher and claiming to see two people visit that had claimed no result lol

[Dwlee99]

UNVOTE: Perfect, you can either get shot or watch DGB

Oh what's that, you suggested watching and then acted like it was my idea?? What are you doing if you're town cheeky?

[Dwlee99]

I feel like Dwlee is scum rather than Nero. I’ve had an instance where I thought two players acting in unison were scum partners but eventually rightfully realized one of them was pocketed. That’s kinda what I feel like Dwlee has been doing with Nero.

Or me and Nero are both town cause I trust Nero's reads.

[Nero Cain]

I mean my reads haven't been fire but I don't think they've been half bad. But yeah cheeks is being a hypocrite

[Dwlee99]

50/50 early on is decent

[Dwlee99]

My day reads list are typically all town lol

[Dwlee99]

Day one*

[Dwlee99]

Here is what happens in the scum PT day three if I'm evil with mega:
Mega: "what do I say for result"
Dwlee: "no result"
Mega: "okay"

The alternative here is that I had mega tank the claim on purpose to make the argument I wouldn't have been that incompetent which would be super big brain but also ridiculous

[Dragon of the West]

No one has died during the night...

Alright, starting from the beginning of the day. Is there anything we can gather from the no kill? I'm assuming there should be 3 scum remaining....no idea why they would choose to no kill...which makes me wonder if there's another town protective role? Does anyone have an explanation for if scum would choose to no kill?