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[Jolyne]

AliceK looks better after the response.

[Jolyne]

@Nathann

My Andres scum read is a holistic one. There is more nongame padding and conciliatory speak than I am used to seeing from Andres. Unlike some of my other reads which are based on specific towntells, this one is based on the whole body of work.

A scum grandpa implies town dgb too

[Jolyne]

Oops

[Kazyan]

Enchant, when can we expect something from you?

Kazyan, is there anyone your heart does want to vote?

DGB or GrandpaMo. Whenever someone plays the "I'm not bothering to read the game but I still have strong opinions" game, that irks me on a personal level. They're either scum or actively detrimental to a town, and either way, need to get ejected.

I see we're starting to consolidate. VOTE: GrandpaMo

[Kazyan]

Actually, posts 408 and 416 look like DGB is actually reading now, so that puts me more at ease there.

[Enchant]

Hello, i am Enchant.

What's up?

[Andresvmb]

@Jolyne I’m thinking Enchant is Scum here. They’ve pulled this nonsense before as Scum if I remember correctly. At least it’s worth pushing. Also, I think ignoring DGB’s reads makes sense :shrug: I’m not sure I would go as far as to policy any slot btw, but if I read slowly and actually find them Scummy I’ll let you know.

[Enchant]

@Jolyne I’m thinking Enchant is Scum here. They’ve pulled this nonsense before as Scum if I remember correctly. At least it’s worth pushing. Also, I think ignoring DGB’s reads makes sense :shrug: I’m not sure I would go as far as to policy any slot btw, but if I read slowly and actually find them Scummy I’ll let you know.

I have 2 posts in this game.

What nonsense.

[Enchant]

Well, actually 3 now.

[Enchant]

Disregard previous post, 4.

[Andresvmb]

Where you ask what’s up and just avoid actually speaking about the game or provide any positive contribution at all.

[Enchant]

Where you ask what’s up and just avoid actually speaking about the game or provide any positive contribution at all.

It's not like you want to ask something from me, or so on.

[Kazyan]

Enchant, gib reads. Do you have an opinion on any of the following people: GrandpaMo, Nixie, and/or Andre?

[Andresvmb]

I will scumread whoever I want to scumread.

You can absolutely do this. But see here’s the problem. You’re wrong. And you completely fail to take into account the views of players that are reading closely and have demonstrated competence in other games, like Koba. Which is why I think your reads should be discarded.

Also, I’ve been Town 16 games in a row in this forum, and have yet to play Scum. In fact I think it’s very likely you have no idea how I play as Scum, but should have a very good grasp for how to confidently pick out when I’m Town. The fact that you think you can confidently say that I’m Scum is aggravating, particularly when I’m actually present in this game.

As a side note, I purposefully decided to take a break because I was not contributing in the way that I liked the last few games, and now that you can see I’m not just lurking D1 out or coming in at odd times, you still get me wrong. And okay it’s D1, but you’re pretending like your read is rock solid. It’s horrendous.

[Andresvmb]

The reason I out this now is because I realize I'm slowly getting tunnelled on that read, and could probably use a sanity check. And you were the only one (I think) to express a read on them earlier, and I'm gonna cheat slightly and sheep our IC's read on you for the time being, so. What do you think?

I’ll re-read the ISO and tell you what I think, but I think the nuance you’re showing in your analysis is strongly Town indicative. So I’m going to try and give you my honest opinion.

[Enchant]

Enchant, gib reads. Do you have an opinion on any of the following people: GrandpaMo, Nixie, and/or Andre?

GrandPa idk, he just looked on post where i was voted and like "Wait wot". Perhaps confused townie, because mafia would simple say "Ye Enchant indeed maf go" and so on.
Nixie who the hell is it
Andre confscum, i am not gonna change vote ty.

[Andresvmb]

Andre confscum, i am not gonna change vote ty.

@Jolyne, is there anything else you need?

[Enchant]

Andre confscum, i am not gonna change vote ty.

@Jolyne, is there anything else you need?

Ok mafia

[Andresvmb]

Andre confscum, i am not gonna change vote ty.

@Jolyne, is there anything else you need?

Ok mafia

I’m Scum because I think that your activity is more often than not Scum indicative, and you’re choosing to tunnel me when I point it out? Either this is really basic Scum play or you’re just bad. Which is it?

[Enchant]

Andre confscum, i am not gonna change vote ty.

@Jolyne, is there anything else you need?

Ok mafia

I’m Scum because I think that your activity is more often than not Scum indicative, and you’re choosing to tunnel me when I point it out? Either this is really basic Scum play or you’re just bad. Which is it?

Ok mafia

[Nathann]

It's not like you want to ask something from me, or so on.

Do you respond to those who do actually ask something of you?

[Kazyan]

Enchant, gib reads. Do you have an opinion on any of the following people: GrandpaMo, Nixie, and/or Andre?

GrandPa idk, he just looked on post where i was voted and like "Wait wot". Perhaps confused townie, because mafia would simple say "Ye Enchant indeed maf go" and so on.
Nixie who the hell is it
Andre confscum, i am not gonna change vote ty.

Aight, town, what do we think about these responses? I asked about random-ass people to throw Enchant off-script, but the Nixie read seems genuine; if scum were just playing it cool and trying to give real responses, they wouldn't verbally shrug like that.

[Nathann]

I realize now I missed 490, but uh. Don't think it invalidates my point

that

much.

[Nathann]

I asked about random-ass people to throw Enchant off-script, but the Nixie read seems genuine; if scum were just playing it cool and trying to give real responses, they wouldn't verbally shrug like that.

Judging by Andres's 485, it looks like Scum!Enchant does verbally shrug a lot.

[Dwlee99]

496 feels sort of perspective slippy but I'm more concerned about enchant cause I don't feel like he is doing much still and the tunnel on Andres doesn't make sense to me.