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[Dwlee99]

I think I agree with koba on Andres/Kyo but I don't think my reads are ever good enough to lead until later in the game when I can PoE better, which I appreciate Koba is helping setup. More later when not phone/moving.

[Kazyan]

So, if you're not paying attention, those posts make you scumread a person, but when you reread, you found them NAI, did I get that right? Why do you no longer find it Scummy then?

And I'm not sure if you got what I'm saying here. Or maybe I don't get your reply. I know GrandpaMo wouldn't think of his own post like that. However, my issue is that he uses someone else's confusion at his post to Townread them. Ythan's reaction was basically "wtf", and GrandpaMo declared that reaction as Townie because "only town would react in a way where they thought the way i said was weird." I get the feeling there's something off about thinking that only Town would react with confusion at a confusing post.

Yes, you got that right. As for why...I mean, I'm getting convinced by Andre that I had wrong expectations for the appropriate amount of fluffposting, there. I open up the ISO and think "early game starts here", but when I'm in the moment of viewing posts as they trickle into the game, I start thinking "no longer early game" after a few days. So there's that disconnect.

It's not

only

town that would react with confusion to a confusing post, but scum tries to act like they know what's going on and have Real Opinions, so expression confusion seems like something they're disinclined to do, probably. In my first game, I got a lot of "what even is this post?" kind of reactions to when I was learning the ropes of how to communicate townily, and they all came from town IIRC. I have a 2020 join date, though, so I don't actually know what the site meta is about this reaction.

[Andresvmb]

Btw I’ll correct myself - GMo never claimed to be bored. I’m not sure why that was buried in my brain. The rest of the post still stands.

[Andresvmb]

I think {Enchant, Ythan, GrandpaMo} is where my vote will land today most likely, unless something changes. I am not getting negative vibes from Kazyan’s last set of posts. @Koba you tell me what you see, but they just seem to be a hesitant player. I’m not finding it Scummy.

@DW, talk to me about Ythan some more.

[Andresvmb]

^or Nathann rather. DW you can chime in too why not.

[Andresvmb]

I know anti town behavior isn't automatically scum you clown but it's the best thing I have to go on right now and it does stick out to me more than anything else going on.

If I had to guess, I actually would say this is coming from Town. So maybe not Ythan.

[Andresvmb]

Hi DGB.

I noticed you, senpai.

Maybe the real senpai was inside me all along

I also like this joke haha

[Enchant]

It's deep night, i plan to sleep, but i am merciful enough.

You can ask me one question before i go.

[Andresvmb]

@Nathann I read Ythan’s ISO (it’s short). I don’t know Ythan’s meta, but I’ll say this - I don’t see them as Scum here. It’s early, the takes are dry, but they seem unconcerned about how others perceive them and seem genuine to me. Not rock solid, can be faked, and I don’t trust all my early reads. But at a gut level, seems like Town.

[Jolyne]

@Nathann I read Ythan’s ISO (it’s short). I don’t know Ythan’s meta, but I’ll say this - I don’t see them as Scum here. It’s early, the takes are dry, but they seem unconcerned about how others perceive them and seem genuine to me. Not rock solid, can be faked, and I don’t trust all my early reads. But at a gut level, seems like Town.

Thats just his personality in general. He posts the same way in speakeasy lol

[Andresvmb]

Thats just his personality in general. He posts the same way in speakeasy lol

Is that a game they were Scum in?

[Nathann]

@Nathann I read Ythan’s ISO (it’s short). I don’t know Ythan’s meta, but I’ll say this - I don’t see them as Scum here. It’s early, the takes are dry, but they seem unconcerned about how others perceive them and seem genuine to me. Not rock solid, can be faked, and I don’t trust all my early reads. But at a gut level, seems like Town.

My main issue was that his scumread of geraintm felt opportunistic to me. I got a strong gut feeling that geraintm was a Townie who was tripping over his own words, and that made me see Ythan as scum that's trying to take advantage of anti-Town behaviour.

I know that's not foolproof, but /shrug. I don't have much else, as the rest of his posts don't sway me one way or another, at least not from memory.

[Andresvmb]

Where you ask what’s up and just avoid actually speaking about the game or provide any positive contribution at all.

It's not like you want to ask something from me, or so on.

This is some low low low hanging fruit

I’ll just highlight this for the future - if Enchant flips Scum, then Ythan should permanently be in the POE.

[Nathann]

Maybe an interesting question would be why Ythan saw geraintm as possible Scum, while he declared Enchant as low hanging fruit, but I feel like the two have had different enough plays, it wouldn't be too difficult to come up with a decent answer.

[Andresvmb]

I want to see more takes from @Nixie.

[Ythan]

This has somehow made me wanna yeet Ythan again.

This may sound self serving coming from me but that's sure and odd conclusion to draw after the rest of your post (which I snipped out to highlight the specific part I'm referring to)

[Nathann]

This has somehow made me wanna yeet Ythan again.

This may sound self serving coming from me but that's sure and odd conclusion to draw after the rest of your post (which I snipped out to highlight the specific part I'm referring to)

I won't say it isn't. I started thinking whether GrandpaMo's reaction to your post actually made sense from a Town perspective or not, which made me think of that post of yours, which then made me think back to our spat early game and how I hadn't noticed anything Townie from you in the meantime.

[Ythan]

Maybe an interesting question would be why Ythan saw geraintm as possible Scum, while he declared Enchant as low hanging fruit, but I feel like the two have had different enough plays, it wouldn't be too difficult to come up with a decent answer.

To be clear I don't mean low hanging fruit isn't scum it was just an overtly scummy post staring me in the face.

[DkKoba]

Thats just his personality in general. He posts the same way in speakeasy lol

Is that a game they were Scum in?

nah its an opt in secret section of the site for more personal threads and such that's 18+ and doesnt show up in searches with no alts allowed.

[Jolyne]

Thats just his personality in general. He posts the same way in speakeasy lol

Is that a game they were Scum in?

nah its an opt in secret section of the site for more personal threads and such that's 18+ and doesnt show up in searches with no alts allowed.

fUCK

[Ythan]

For a second I thought the fuck was because you're an alt and not allowed in the speakeasy.

[Ythan]

I think this is good.

VOTE: GrandpaMo

[Enchant]

You lost your chance.

See ya tomorrow (or not idk)

[Dwlee99]

^or Nathann rather. DW you can chime in too why not.

Can confirm that he posts like this in the speakeasy like Koba said. That's probably town cause it shows he is being himself and not faking anything.

My list today is {Enchant, Grandpa, Kazyan???} as a third because I felt like he may have perspective slipped in that one post.

[DrippingGoofball]

Kazyan's frustration is town.