mini normal 2226; who won

[Titus]

Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?

[Gamma Emerald]

I could see maybe 4 scum with (traitor, traitor neighbor, neighbor goon, doctor) perhaps working

[MathBlade]

Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?

I sheep you and win. *shrug*

There’s too much mechanics. Soon as I try by play I remember mechanics then realize my idea was stupid.

[Lukewarm]

DkKoba
Gamma Emerald
Datisi
MathBlade
Aristeia
Titus
Lukewarm
ChaosOmega
Not_Mafia

Gamma and chaos both got results, so not them.

Koba has been cleared, and would not have been the night kill, so not him.

I would not have been surprised if you had jailed me after the lolhammer, but I doubt the scum team ever targets me after the lolhammer, and a kill stopped. So not me.

So : dats again, math, Ari, nm are the options imo.

Dats could have been the kill target again, trying to put smart you protecting one of the investigatives (and failing)

I really think nm is town, but also never getting shot. So taking him off again.

So my guess is either Ari or math.

Gth, it's math. Final answer

[Datisi]

I could see maybe 4 scum with (traitor, traitor neighbor, neighbor goon, doctor) perhaps working

i have a feeling i've seen mastina say somewhere that she hates 4-scum mini normals. i can try to find it later, but i don't think it's likely she'd design a game like that

[Titus]

*scribbles notes*

Math, an analysis like 2728 please.

[MathBlade]

Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?

I feel like scum have been buttering you up.

It’s just each time I pick someone as likely butterer I get no where
Datisi is lock town because you blocked >> could be killer but doubt it

There is no resistance to you leading which is weird.

[Titus]

Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?

I feel like scum have been buttering you up.

It’s just each time I pick someone as likely butterer I get no where
Datisi is lock town because you blocked >> could be killer but doubt it

There is no resistance to you leading which is weird.

This situation is weird, which is why I am pleading with you for moonlogic.

[MathBlade]

DkKoba
Gamma Emerald
Datisi
MathBlade
Aristeia
Titus
Lukewarm
ChaosOmega
Not_Mafia

Gamma and chaos both got results, so not them.

Koba has been cleared, and would not have been the night kill, so not him.

I would not have been surprised if you had jailed me after the lolhammer, but I doubt the scum team ever targets me after the lolhammer, and a kill stopped. So not me.

So : dats again, math, Ari, nm are the options imo.

Dats could have been the kill target again, trying to put smart you protecting one of the investigatives (and failing)

I really think nm is town, but also never getting shot. So taking him off again.

So my guess is either Ari or math.

Gth, it's math. Final answer

I don’t remember Gamma saying he had results then but if he did he wasn’t blocked.

So then assuming you’re all town then I would go with Ari here first as scum? Like the logic seems sound

I just don’t think it’s right by mechanics and gut

[MathBlade]

Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?

I feel like scum have been buttering you up.

It’s just each time I pick someone as likely butterer I get no where
Datisi is lock town because you blocked >> could be killer but doubt it

There is no resistance to you leading which is weird.

This situation is weird, which is why I am pleading with you for moonlogic.

My moonlogic is Datisi is scum killer.

[Titus]

Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?

I feel like scum have been buttering you up.

It’s just each time I pick someone as likely butterer I get no where
Datisi is lock town because you blocked >> could be killer but doubt it

There is no resistance to you leading which is weird.

This situation is weird, which is why I am pleading with you for moonlogic.

My moonlogic is Datisi is scum killer.

Going to tell you that this moonlogic is actually impossible. It's the only moonlogic that is. You'd put no kill before Datisi scum.

[MathBlade]

Like I doubt it but I don’t see things fitting unless one in Chaos or Gamma or Datisi is scum.

I don’t see Chaos lying about being informed there because outed as soon as two scum with guns flip so likely true regardless of alignment.

Leaves Gamma and Dat and mechanically Datisi has the biggest chance of being scum.

Pedit: not sure how? If you’re jailkeeper you have to block Datisi to save him yeah?

*confused*

[Titus]

I don’t see Chaos lying about being informed there because outed as soon as two scum with guns flip so likely true regardless of alignment.

As long as his partner doesn't flip before him, he's fine with this claim.

I'd have Gamma check Chaos to secure our pool possibly. Not sure.

[MathBlade]

I don’t see Chaos lying about being informed there because outed as soon as two scum with guns flip so likely true regardless of alignment.

As long as his partner doesn't flip before him, he's fine with this claim.

I'd have Gamma check Chaos to secure our pool possibly. Not sure.

I guess it works if Chaos is traitor only. Then he just instantly loses if a buddy is flipped anyway.

[MathBlade]

Assuming three scum like Datisi suggested

[Titus]

I don’t see Chaos lying about being informed there because outed as soon as two scum with guns flip so likely true regardless of alignment.

As long as his partner doesn't flip before him, he's fine with this claim.

I'd have Gamma check Chaos to secure our pool possibly. Not sure.

I guess it works if Chaos is traitor only. Then he just instantly loses if a buddy is flipped anyway.

True, but how would he know he wasn't blocked as the traitor?

[MathBlade]

It just seems like such a far fetched claim to be fake.

Pedit: His buddy would have to do the kill not him. So since no kill he could assume his buddy was blocked maybe?

[Gamma Emerald]

I could see maybe 4 scum with (traitor, traitor neighbor, neighbor goon, doctor) perhaps working

i have a feeling i've seen mastina say somewhere that she hates 4-scum mini normals. i can try to find it later, but i don't think it's likely she'd design a game like that

Oh was she a reviewer? Ngl that makes me more inclined to just forget about what’s balanced or not since she always explains her thought process from the review postgame

[Datisi]

designed by mastina!! reviewed by Something_Smart!!

[Titus]

Mod: Would a mafia joat with a doctor come back as having a gun?

[DkKoba]

I'm an informed gunsmith. N1 Umlaut has a gun, N2 Koba no gun, N3 Gamma has a gun.

I am informed that only one mafia has a gun, which is why I've been bringing up traitors throughout the game.

Well in this case Koba actually is town, since Koba is vanilla, and has no gun; this means that there is no role combination Koba can be in order to be mafia without a gun. So while I’m still disappointed in them, Koba is conf town now at least

eat crow

[DkKoba]

also we're turbo eliminiating luke today

And i said alch was town amd yall rushed that shit.

[MathBlade]

I'm an informed gunsmith. N1 Umlaut has a gun, N2 Koba no gun, N3 Gamma has a gun.

I am informed that only one mafia has a gun, which is why I've been bringing up traitors throughout the game.

Well in this case Koba actually is town, since Koba is vanilla, and has no gun; this means that there is no role combination Koba can be in order to be mafia without a gun. So while I’m still disappointed in them, Koba is conf town now at least

eat crow

?? Why are you saying to Gamma eat crow ??

*confusion level rising if that is even possible*

[DkKoba]

also i confirm im vt if it isnt clear

[Gamma Emerald]

If you’re going to continue being unpleasant and acting like your play was perfectly fine then I’m very likely just avoiding you from now on, because you still thought “these people are being cagey so they have to be scum because there’s ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO POSSIBLE UNIVERSE where they’re PRs right?”