mini normal 2226; who won

Aristeia · Post Post #2825 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:57 pm

I know I have no night action because the only thing I do at night is dream of flirting with Datisi.

MathBlade · Post Post #2826 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:59 pm

In post 2821, Aristeia wrote:

Not sure how to respond to this without outing you except thank you and your gifs are beautiful.

Titus · Post Post #2827 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:59 pm

In post 2796, MathBlade wrote:And Datisi too. Don’t think he has claimed.

Datisi's conftown so he doesn't to.

Now here's the surprise...

I blocked....

Spoiler: result

deliberately.

MathBlade · Post Post #2828 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:59 pm

What the fuck?

Aristeia · Post Post #2829 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:00 pm

In post 2822, MathBlade wrote:I am. But I just don’t think Mastina makes back to back unwinnable setups for scum.

I have seen normals where town has 2

ungated

investigative roles that get guilties on scum while scum is 2 player team + a traitor.

Though that was with a Loyal Jailkeeper. and the scum team won in a sweep.

Aristeia · Post Post #2830 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:00 pm

maybe not mafia forgot to put a nightkill in

Aristeia · Post Post #2831 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:02 pm

I can assure you that I would not forget something as important as killing people if I were the bad person!

which I am definitely not !

MathBlade · Post Post #2832 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:04 pm

In post 2830, Aristeia wrote:maybe not mafia forgot to put a nightkill in

Possible but I doubt it. When I was scum with Not Mafia just a game ago he checked in. He also never hammered e-1 in those games.

Plus Umlaut v Flubber/Not Mafia is a thing.

Probably looking at an intentional scum no kill.

Aristeia · Post Post #2833 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:05 pm

Alchemist21 Jul 27, 09:18pm Aug 19, 07:38pm 3 days 2 hours 160
Not_Mafia Aug 09, 04:09am Aug 18, 02:19pm 4 days 7 hours 24

^ NM hasn't posted since the Alchemist elimination and is probably the most likely player to "forget" to nightkill

it would fit with a traitor being unable to nightkill or communicate with the Mafia Doctor.

Aristeia · Post Post #2834 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:06 pm

In post 2832, MathBlade wrote:Possible but I doubt it. When I was scum with Not Mafia just a game ago he checked in. He also never hammered e-1 in those games.

Plus Umlaut v Flubber/Not Mafia is a thing.

Probably looking at an intentional scum no kill.

I don't understand why scum would deliberately no kill in this game state.

MathBlade · Post Post #2835 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:07 pm

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87211

Town won due to mod interference I had to make a kill I really shouldn’t have had to make.

MathBlade · Post Post #2836 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:08 pm

In post 2834, Aristeia wrote:
In post 2832, MathBlade wrote:Possible but I doubt it. When I was scum with Not Mafia just a game ago he checked in. He also never hammered e-1 in those games.

Plus Umlaut v Flubber/Not Mafia is a thing.

Probably looking at an intentional scum no kill.

I don't understand why scum would deliberately no kill in this game state.

Me neither. None of that makes sense. But it’s the most likely

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2837 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:08 pm

In post 2832, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2830, Aristeia wrote:maybe not mafia forgot to put a nightkill in
Possible but I doubt it. When I was scum with Not Mafia just a game ago he checked in. He also never hammered e-1 in those games.

Plus Umlaut v Flubber/Not Mafia is a thing.

Probably looking at an intentional scum no kill.

That’s probably just it
The question is who and why

MathBlade · Post Post #2838 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:09 pm

Not mafia doing hammers means he is town here. He’s actually doing his trolling

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2839 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:09 pm

Although I’ve also seen active scum forget to submit because they were busy talking it over

DkKoba · Post Post #2840 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:09 pm

In post 2822, MathBlade wrote:I am. But I just don’t think Mastina makes back to back unwinnable setups for scum.

if her townplay is anything to judge by she will absolutely do the same thing twice

Aristeia · Post Post #2841 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:09 pm

ok but in this game state with 9 alive why would scum choose to deliberately no-kill?

it would actually explain the delayed night end as well if the mod didnt have a nightkill action from the scum player and delayed to give him a new chance to submit a nk but he just didn't do it.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2842 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:11 pm

In post 2841, Aristeia wrote:ok but in this game state with 9 alive why would scum choose to deliberately no-kill?

it would actually explain the delayed night end as well if the mod didnt have a nightkill action from the scum player and delayed to give him a new chance to submit a nk but he just didn't do it.

Yeah this feels like it makes sense, given there was I game I modded where I kinda let a night go on longer than it was supposed to and scum forgot to submit the kill within the actual deadline, and I didn’t accept the late submission

Aristeia · Post Post #2843 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:11 pm

In post 2650, tris wrote:
i will likely be late in starting the day.

In post 2651, tris wrote:
i will start the day at some point after 1 pm PST, and probably after 2 pm PST

^ the timing lines up with the mod giving a 24 hour extension and prodding the mafia player to submit a nightkill but the mafia player just doesn't do it.

MathBlade · Post Post #2844 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:11 pm

In post 2837, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2832, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2830, Aristeia wrote:maybe not mafia forgot to put a nightkill in
Possible but I doubt it. When I was scum with Not Mafia just a game ago he checked in. He also never hammered e-1 in those games.

Plus Umlaut v Flubber/Not Mafia is a thing.

Probably looking at an intentional scum no kill.
That’s probably just it
The question is who and why

Agreed makes me think one of the PR claims has to be scum and they wanna set up Not Mafia

Lukewarm · Post Post #2845 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:12 pm

In post 2827, Titus wrote:
In post 2796, MathBlade wrote:And Datisi too. Don’t think he has claimed.
Datisi's conftown so he doesn't to.

Now here's the surprise...

I blocked....

Spoiler: result
No one

deliberately.

wat

MathBlade · Post Post #2846 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:12 pm

In post 2843, Aristeia wrote:
In post 2650, tris wrote:
i will likely be late in starting the day.

In post 2651, tris wrote:
i will start the day at some point after 1 pm PST, and probably after 2 pm PST

^ the timing lines up with the mod giving a 24 hour extension and prodding the mafia player to submit a nightkill but the mafia player just doesn't do it.

I just don’t think so.
I think tris just had RL.

Anything else is mod interference for scum
I can’t agree with your argument here

Aristeia · Post Post #2847 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:14 pm

not killing at 9 is giving the town an extra elimination - it's really not a great thing to do if you're scum trying to

set someone up

because your max gain if it works is just to get you back to where you should've been in the first place on the kill cycle.

also I don't think a deliberate no kill by choice would've had moderator extending night deadline by a whole day

MathBlade · Post Post #2848 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:15 pm

In post 2847, Aristeia wrote:not killing at 9 is giving the town an extra elimination - it's really not a great thing to do if you're scum trying to
set someone up
because your max gain if it works is just to get you back to where you should've been in the first place on the kill cycle.

also I don't think a deliberate no kill by choice would've had moderator extending night deadline by a whole day

I agree with the last sentence. I just think tris had RL which doesn’t indicate anything.

I literally will never assume a mod sides for town or scum.

Aristeia · Post Post #2849 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:15 pm

In post 2846, MathBlade wrote:I just don’t think so.
I think tris just had RL.

Anything else is mod interference for scum
I can’t agree with your argument here

I don't agree with RL, I think it's more likely she gave mafia an extension to get their NK in and then opened day when the mafia didn't take their chance.

I don't think there's an RL reason to delay day open as it's fairly minimal effort to write "No1 Died" and unlock the thread.