mini normal 2226; who won

[MathBlade]

This still doesn’t account for Titus saving the kill at all.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

I think we do this here and hope this is what's going on rather than Chaos and Koba.

Everyone else here I am getting massive townpings on.

after this game u need to seriously update how you read me - i will cite every single game u misread me in and bury anything u try against me in the future, even if I am scum (although I expect you townread me still if i rand scum and you change nothing)

Then stop being so scummy. I'll always scumread you if you act above basic questioning, scream down my townreads, and attempt to carry grudges into future games.

Right now, I am looking at NM/Math, Chaos/you as my primaries.

"stop being so scummy"

oh sorry i didnt know shielding my townreads was scummy especially when they're accurate.


get real.

[DkKoba]

you wouldn't know my scumtells if they slapped you in the face

[Titus]

I don't really want to kill nm. The umlaut flubber stuff at the very beginning of the game is just so hard to see them as partners.

Then who do you want to kill?

[DkKoba]

also I highly doubt Mastina listens to you given her wallposts in the Garfield game saying you're wrong

she also disagreed with you after the 3 scum doc game

she will not take criticism xD

[Titus]

This still doesn’t account for Titus saving the kill at all.

That's scum's fault. I crumbed it as I had to. They still targeted Datisi.

[MathBlade]

I will even give you Gamma checks a confirmed Townie N1.

Chaos outs scum have 1 gun then town knows there is a scum doctor in the setup as no other mafia role (besides traitor) gives a inno to gunsmith.

Then Titus is de facto lock town.

[DkKoba]

altho tbf the 3 doc setup was alright because yall didnt even bother limming the obv fake vig

[DkKoba]

hey titus if chaos gets killed here- you target me tonight.


no questions asked.

[Aristeia]

Nope they can’t. Assume all are town

Assume Chaos and Gamma claim D2.

Scum kill Gamma. Gamma’s N1 check becomes confirmed town/scum.

Chaos gets off another check. Two players confirmed gunless or Titus confirmed to have a gun.

Latter leaves 3 locktowns left unless scum get lucky and were checked by Chaos.

Otherwise still town sweep.

what if town eliminates gamma d1 and scum shoot chaos at night b4 he can out any results?

[MathBlade]

So this is actually alignment cop, jailkeeper, informed town, informed setup vs 2 goons and a traitor.

This never passes a normal review so it can’t be right

[DkKoba]

(koba why did you not say if they are town? well its because it is literally blatant that chaos is town and you have to be scum or horribly in another world to see otherwise.)

[MathBlade]

Nope they can’t. Assume all are town

Assume Chaos and Gamma claim D2.

Scum kill Gamma. Gamma’s N1 check becomes confirmed town/scum.

Chaos gets off another check. Two players confirmed gunless or Titus confirmed to have a gun.

Latter leaves 3 locktowns left unless scum get lucky and were checked by Chaos.

Otherwise still town sweep.

what if town eliminates gamma d1 and scum shoot chaos at night b4 he can out any results?

You mean what if town throws and scum are god tier?

Then it’s possible scum win but that’s not even remotely probable

[Lukewarm]

Chaos's claimed role is super weak in my opinion. It has 1 player in the entire game it can inno, and 1 player in the entire game that it can guilty. And then 10 players that it gives a "fuck if I know" result.

It feels weird that I am somewhat doubtful of the claim because of how shitty it is, and also the fact that it still managed to land on both its inno and its guilty already, to then see you sitting there arguing that it is doubtful because the town is too powerful

Maybe I am just dense (and I am still not gonna take the time to run models lol)

[Aristeia]

You mean what if town throws and scum are god tier?

Then it’s possible scum win but that’s not even remotely probable

well it is

a path

[MathBlade]

There should always be a path for town and scum to win that doesn’t rely on the other side throwing the game

[DkKoba]

Chaos's claimed role is super weak in my opinion. It has 1 player in the entire game it can inno, and 1 player in the entire game that it can guilty. And then 10 players that it gives a "fuck if I know" result.

It feels weird that I am somewhat doubtful of the claim because of how shitty it is, and also the fact that it still managed to land on both its inno and its guilty already, to then see you sitting there arguing that it is doubtful because the town is too powerful

Maybe I am just dense (and I am still not gonna take the time to run models lol)

since you're sitting in poe - how do you feel about ari/math scum team?

[Lukewarm]

I don't really want to kill nm. The umlaut flubber stuff at the very beginning of the game is just so hard to see them as partners.

Then who do you want to kill?

I am waffling between joining Math on the chaos wagon, or just voting math atm

[MathBlade]

You mean what if town throws and scum are god tier?

Then it’s possible scum win but that’s not even remotely probable

well it is

a path

It’s also a path to victory for town if scum no kill every night.

Play shouldn’t be balanced around that.

There has to be a remotely probable path to victory.

[DkKoba]

are umlaut or chaos at all experienced in setup creation/design?

[Titus]

Chaos's claimed role is super weak in my opinion. It has 1 player in the entire game it can inno, and 1 player in the entire game that it can guilty. And then 10 players that it gives a "fuck if I know" result.

It feels weird that I am somewhat doubtful of the claim because of how shitty it is, and also the fact that it still managed to land on both its inno and its guilty already, to then see you sitting there arguing that it is doubtful because the town is too powerful

Maybe I am just dense (and I am still not gonna take the time to run models lol)

+1

[DkKoba]

You mean what if town throws and scum are god tier?

Then it’s possible scum win but that’s not even remotely probable

well it is

a path

It’s also a path to victory for town if scum no kill every night.

Play shouldn’t be balanced around that.

There has to be a remotely probable path to victory.

its more likely titus is scum here over chaos. get real.

[Aristeia]

if math is scum, he is traitor scum and protecting NM main scum imo.

i dont see a world where mathblade main scum forgets to submit NK and then spends the entire day hard defending the person most likely to be blamed for "forgetting to submit the NK"

[MathBlade]

Chaos's claimed role is super weak in my opinion. It has 1 player in the entire game it can inno, and 1 player in the entire game that it can guilty. And then 10 players that it gives a "fuck if I know" result.

It feels weird that I am somewhat doubtful of the claim because of how shitty it is, and also the fact that it still managed to land on both its inno and its guilty already, to then see you sitting there arguing that it is doubtful because the town is too powerful

Maybe I am just dense (and I am still not gonna take the time to run models lol)

+1

Why is Chaos informed when there’s already an informed in the OP?

[Lukewarm]

Chaos's claimed role is super weak in my opinion. It has 1 player in the entire game it can inno, and 1 player in the entire game that it can guilty. And then 10 players that it gives a "fuck if I know" result.

It feels weird that I am somewhat doubtful of the claim because of how shitty it is, and also the fact that it still managed to land on both its inno and its guilty already, to then see you sitting there arguing that it is doubtful because the town is too powerful

Maybe I am just dense (and I am still not gonna take the time to run models lol)

since you're sitting in poe - how do you feel about ari/math scum team?

That would be strictly a poe solve for me. I town read ari like the entire game