mini normal 2226; who won

[MathBlade]

because omega (1) said there's no scum with guns left and (2) confirmed gamma as having a gun (rolecops have a gun). so if gamma is scum, omega must be too.

Or Gamma is a Joat with a doctor in it?

[MathBlade]

And one of the others is an invest not rolecop

[ChaosOmega]

I said Gamma has a gun and because of my informed knowledge, he's confirmed town. If he flips scum, I'm lying and therefore scum.

[Datisi]

then gamma wouldn't show up as having a gun. "there is only one scum that has a gun" and "gamma has a gun" cannot be worked around.

[MathBlade]

Ah fair enough.

So chaos has to be scum or Titus is.
I don’t think Titus is so Chaos by PoE.

[Lukewarm]

Dats, are you claiming a PR?

[Lukewarm]

Or are you just making a hypothetical to make math do more math? lol

[ChaosOmega]

Ah fair enough.

So chaos has to be scum or Titus is.
I don’t think Titus is so Chaos by PoE.

Said Mathblade incorrectly.

[Datisi]

Dats, are you claiming a PR?

yeah. 2912 wasn't too off the mark. i'm a traffic analyst.

[Datisi]

which is why i've been saying that titus can only be scum with me. i can confirm that i got blocked on n2. so unless she's a scum!blocker who's truthfully claiming all targets and no-killing to go along with it, she's town.

[Lukewarm]

Dats, are you claiming a PR?

yeah. 2912 wasn't too off the mark. i'm a traffic analyst.

I don't know how that role works. Do you have results?

[Lukewarm]

Oh. its a pt cop. Which I was expecting lol

[MathBlade]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... al_version

Yeah if Datisi is town I don’t see how Chaos is or scum just lose this.

[Datisi]

it's the same a pt cop, except for:

- mailman returns a positive result
- a person alone in a pt returns a negative result.

n1 checked umlaut, got a can communicate. i very subtly softed this on d2, you may have noticed.

n2 i checked alch, got no result. (soft in 1656 - "not sure where to go now")

n3 i checked mathblade, got a cannot communicate. (soft in 2655 - "dreams don't always come true", i talked about having a dream where math was scum earlier in the game.) this is why i said that we don't yeet him before another scum has flipped, because then we get insight on the scum pt distributions. a traffic analyst gets a "cannot communicate" result (false clear, basically) on people that are alone in their pt. right now, there's no way to know if the remaining two scum are in a pt together (which would make this a hardclear), or if the team is something like {mafia doctor, mafia neighbour, mafia traitor neighbour} which would make my result literally worthless.

[Gamma Emerald]

Dats, are you claiming a PR?

yeah. 2912 wasn't too off the mark. i'm a traffic analyst.

do you have a result from last night?

[Gamma Emerald]

oh nvm, cool

[ChaosOmega]

So assuming the setup is Mafia Doc + Mafia Neighbor + Mafia Traitor Neighbor, Datisi gets no useful results after Umlaut dies because they're both in a PT by themselves.

[Lukewarm]

Your night 1 result should be a clear right?

[MathBlade]

it's the same a pt cop, except for:

- mailman returns a positive result
- a person alone in a pt returns a negative result.

n1 checked umlaut, got a can communicate. i very subtly softed this on d2, you may have noticed.

n2 i checked alch, got no result. (soft in 1656 - "not sure where to go now")

n3 i checked mathblade, got a cannot communicate. (soft in 2655 - "dreams don't always come true", i talked about having a dream where math was scum earlier in the game.) this is why i said that we don't yeet him before another scum has flipped, because then we get insight on the scum pt distributions. a traffic analyst gets a "cannot communicate" result (false clear, basically) on people that are alone in their pt. right now, there's no way to know if the remaining two scum are in a pt together (which would make this a hardclear), or if the team is something like {mafia doctor, mafia neighbour, mafia traitor neighbour} which would make my result literally worthless.

I told you your keyboard was broken *shrug*

[Lukewarm]

Oh

[ChaosOmega]

Turns out both our naked votes were softing guilties, lol.

[Datisi]

well n1 result should've been a clear, but apparently every investigative in this stupid game dogpiled on umlaut on n1, so.

[Gamma Emerald]

it's the same a pt cop, except for:

- mailman returns a positive result
- a person alone in a pt returns a negative result.

n1 checked umlaut, got a can communicate. i very subtly softed this on d2, you may have noticed.

n2 i checked alch, got no result. (soft in 1656 - "not sure where to go now")

n3 i checked mathblade, got a cannot communicate. (soft in 2655 - "dreams don't always come true", i talked about having a dream where math was scum earlier in the game.) this is why i said that we don't yeet him before another scum has flipped, because then we get insight on the scum pt distributions. a traffic analyst gets a "cannot communicate" result (false clear, basically) on people that are alone in their pt. right now, there's no way to know if the remaining two scum are in a pt together (which would make this a hardclear), or if the team is something like {mafia doctor, mafia neighbour, mafia traitor neighbour} which would make my result literally worthless.

so assuming we flip another scum today:
traitor flip = math could be scum, nontraitor flip = math can only be scum traitor and in that case the game would be over
this might make my "create a townbin and vote outside of it" play even more viable?

[Lukewarm]

So all 3 of our investigatives happened to target umlaut night 1?

[Gamma Emerald]

Turns out both our naked votes were softing guilties, lol.

tfw 3 TIs presumably targeted the same scum n1
Umlaut was straight up uberfucked, jeez