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Post Post #3100 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:38 am

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In post 3095, ChaosOmega wrote:Turns out both our naked votes were softing guilties, lol.
yep, and i absolutely ran with "guys i was just covering for chaos :( i realized he had a guilty i wanted to protect the power roles :( scum thought i was so good they actually tried to shoot me :)" all while i was hysterically laughing irl
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Post Post #3101 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:39 am

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and considering the fact i was NOT shot again, makes me think chaos town, because surely a team with scum!chaos figures out i was talking out of my ass for the entirety of day 3?
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Post Post #3102 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:40 am

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In post 3100, Datisi wrote:
In post 3095, ChaosOmega wrote:Turns out both our naked votes were softing guilties, lol.
yep, and i absolutely ran with "guys i was just covering for chaos :( i realized he had a guilty i wanted to protect the power roles :( scum thought i was so good they actually tried to shoot me :)" all while i was hysterically laughing irl
To be fair I thought you were the one with a guilty and was shading you.

I was literally telling Titus “stop townreading Dat so he doesn’t get shot”

Instead she just protects you and I saw your soft and not hers lol

I was so busy getting scum to kill T3 who was not a PR role it was like doh
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Post Post #3103 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:42 am

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More accurately I just thought she was insulting me :(
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Post Post #3104 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:44 am

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In post 3097, Gamma Emerald wrote:so assuming we flip another scum today:
traitor flip = math could be scum, nontraitor flip = math can only be scum traitor and in that case the game would be over
this might make my "create a townbin and vote outside of it" play even more viable?
if next scum flip is any traitor = my result from today means nothing

if next scum flip is a non-neighbour groupscum = my result from today means nothing

if next scum flip is a mafia neighbour = scum was most likely all in a hood together, math is cleared (if game not over)
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Post Post #3105 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:44 am

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Datisi, is your claim real?
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Post Post #3106 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:45 am

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In post 3104, Datisi wrote:if next scum flip is a mafia neighbour = scum was most likely all in a hood together, math is cleared (if game not over)
i *think* the only way this is not true is if math is a mafia traitor neighbourizer who decided to holster for the whole game, but i kinda don't buy it?

and yes, i'm not gambiting for shits. ask koba what happened last time i did that.
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Post Post #3107 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:50 am

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I mean assume all are town and proposed setup.

Rolecop guilty or inno (eventually for that role no matter who)
Gunsmith Informed of setup making scum doctor a forced thing
PT analyst guilty or inno (because of OP)
Loyal JK which is a delayed IC even if never acts

At the end of N1 you have 4 conf townies and 0-2 more, plus possible guilty.

I don’t see how this passes a review
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Post Post #3108 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:51 am

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In post 3106, Datisi wrote:
In post 3104, Datisi wrote:if next scum flip is a mafia neighbour = scum was most likely all in a hood together, math is cleared (if game not over)
i *think* the only way this is not true is if math is a mafia traitor neighbourizer who decided to holster for the whole game, but i kinda don't buy it?

and yes, i'm not gambiting for shits. ask koba what happened last time i did that.
And there would need to be 3 people in a PT at the start of the game, so it would have to be a mafia neighbor traitor neighborizer? Just gonna pretend this isn't possible and move on.
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Post Post #3109 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:52 am

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Technically if we assume doctor, neighbor, traitor

PT analyst can check any scum
Gunsmith can get a scum and knows to ignore innos
Rolecop anything it gets is a hard check.
If rolecop says X is a doctor then Gunsmith says X is scum because informed

So yeah this doesn’t pass review
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Post Post #3110 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:53 am

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neighborized people don't flip as neighbor fyi
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Post Post #3111 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:53 am

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In post 3108, ChaosOmega wrote:
In post 3106, Datisi wrote:
In post 3104, Datisi wrote:if next scum flip is a mafia neighbour = scum was most likely all in a hood together, math is cleared (if game not over)
i *think* the only way this is not true is if math is a mafia traitor neighbourizer who decided to holster for the whole game, but i kinda don't buy it?

and yes, i'm not gambiting for shits. ask koba what happened last time i did that.
And there would need to be 3 people in a PT at the start of the game, so it would have to be a mafia neighbor traitor neighborizer? Just gonna pretend this isn't possible and move on.
Not a PT
Behind the scenes chat.

Could be multiple PTs.

I am not scum but this is wrong
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Post Post #3112 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:54 am

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what's the difference
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Post Post #3113 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:54 am

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In post 3100, Datisi wrote:
In post 3095, ChaosOmega wrote:Turns out both our naked votes were softing guilties, lol.
yep, and i absolutely ran with "guys i was just covering for chaos :( i realized he had a guilty i wanted to protect the power roles :( scum thought i was so good they actually tried to shoot me :)" all while i was hysterically laughing irl
You do realize this gave cover and legitimacy to a possible scum Chaos right?
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Post Post #3114 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:56 am

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In post 3091, ChaosOmega wrote:So assuming the setup is Mafia Doc + Mafia Neighbor + Mafia Traitor Neighbor, Datisi gets no useful results after Umlaut dies because they're both in a PT by themselves.
i could kinda see this being a thing, considering there's only one scum you could potentially guilty, and while i can guilty any of them, i effectively lose my pr after umlaut dies. that would make the rolecop the actually strong investigative, and he's odd-night. the jailkeeper cannot help follow the cop.

i can see this being a thing. it's very stupid and townsided but i can see it being a thing.

wondering if we should yeet chaos anyway, bc if he's town then both gamma and koba are conftowned, and titus and i can only be scum together (and don't even try it) so that's 4 townies going into night with 8 alive, which wouldn't be too bad, especially since then odds of it being something like math/n_m increases a lot.
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Post Post #3115 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:56 am

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In post 3101, Datisi wrote:and considering the fact i was NOT shot again, makes me think chaos town, because surely a team with scum!chaos figures out i was talking out of my ass for the entirety of day 3?
They could assume sheer luck.
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Post Post #3116 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:56 am

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In post 3112, Gamma Emerald wrote:what's the difference
Chaos said 3 people in A PT.

Assuming the setup is as suggested
Could have started mafia doctor + Umlaut in first PT
Umlaut + traitor in second
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Post Post #3117 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:57 am

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In post 3113, Titus wrote:
In post 3100, Datisi wrote:
In post 3095, ChaosOmega wrote:Turns out both our naked votes were softing guilties, lol.
yep, and i absolutely ran with "guys i was just covering for chaos :( i realized he had a guilty i wanted to protect the power roles :( scum thought i was so good they actually tried to shoot me :)" all while i was hysterically laughing irl
You do realize this gave cover and legitimacy to a possible scum Chaos right?
yes, and?
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Post Post #3118 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:58 am

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atp I think I need to fullclaim in order to ensure the setup spec goes right, I'm really just 2 shot vs. odd night
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Post Post #3119 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:58 am

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In post 3114, Datisi wrote:
In post 3091, ChaosOmega wrote:So assuming the setup is Mafia Doc + Mafia Neighbor + Mafia Traitor Neighbor, Datisi gets no useful results after Umlaut dies because they're both in a PT by themselves.
i could kinda see this being a thing, considering there's only one scum you could potentially guilty, and while i can guilty any of them, i effectively lose my pr after umlaut dies. that would make the rolecop the actually strong investigative, and he's odd-night. the jailkeeper cannot help follow the cop.

i can see this being a thing. it's very stupid and townsided but i can see it being a thing.

wondering if we should yeet chaos anyway, bc if he's town then both gamma and koba are conftowned, and titus and i can only be scum together (and don't even try it) so that's 4 townies going into night with 8 alive, which wouldn't be too bad, especially since then odds of it being something like math/n_m increases a lot.
Agreed it’s stupid and townsided and probably unwinnable for scum but if Chaos is town then it’s likely what happened. So yay autowin! Here we come.
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Post Post #3120 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:58 am

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In post 3116, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3112, Gamma Emerald wrote:what's the difference
Chaos said 3 people in A PT.

Assuming the setup is as suggested
Could have started mafia doctor + Umlaut in first PT
Umlaut + traitor in second
3 people in a PT does not mean the same one necessarily.
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Post Post #3121 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:02 am

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VOTE: Chaos

I think we vote Chaos for the autowin scenario.

If he is town then we lock firm a bunch and if he is scum then we got a scum or traitor so yay!?
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Post Post #3122 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:02 am

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In post 3118, Gamma Emerald wrote:atp I think I need to fullclaim in order to ensure the setup spec goes right, I'm really just 2 shot vs. odd night
Why did you holster night 2?
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Post Post #3123 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:03 am

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How is voting me autowin again?
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Post Post #3124 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:03 am

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In post 3121, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Chaos

I think we vote Chaos for the autowin scenario.

If he is town then we lock firm a bunch and if he is scum then we got a scum or traitor so yay!?
idk if that's what we should do, I'm trying to run the associative math
but I think atp I'm conftown via 2 others having to have fudged something in order for me to be scum?
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