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[GrandpaMo]

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[ssbm_Kyouko]

Going to work on these players:

Kazyan
Nixie (Titus)
Ythan
DGB
AliceK

Going to continue with this. Titus doesnt seem town yet, tried to get a bit out of her earlier today when GMo was RTing with the fake roleclaim. I dont think I really know how to read her yet though as I've only been town with her once recently. I was scum with her once and scum against her once too, but have only had to read her once recently, and she was a claimed PR that was NKed early, so I didnt have to figure her out in that game either.

[GrandpaMo]

Going to work on these players:

Kazyan
Nixie (Titus)
Ythan
DGB
AliceK

Going to continue with this. Titus doesnt seem town yet, tried to get a bit out of her earlier today when GMo was RTing with the fake roleclaim. I dont think I really know how to read her yet though as I've only been town with her once recently. I was scum with her once and scum against her once too, but have only had to read her once recently, and she was a claimed PR that was NKed early, so I didnt have to figure her out in that game either.

Can you actually link me to those games.

[Jolyne]

Can we prod Alice please? Or is there no prod requests

Actually just saw the VC and was thinking along the same lines. Alice promised us a catchup on Monday, she's in Europe, and the catchup isn't here and its monday night there. Could be scum thinking that with wagons on GpaMo and Enchant that she can ride it out until deadline without updating us on anything and slide into D2

Don't always assume here.

It's faulty logic especially if you are using "not talking" as in means of scum reading someone. I like your speculation but don't go anywhere with it since it is mostly NAI.

Enchant over Alice imo

no

Why

what puts Enchant outside of scum/townrange

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Spoiler: Ythan-Kazyan raw quotes

I thought it might be a little scummy to ask a probing question over something that clearly doesn't matter, but then I realized that a "peck" at someone hasn't historically come from scum in my games--Lunar Martian in Mini Normal 2187, or T3's initial questions in Not Quite Normal Multiball. And then you gave a reasonable answer, so now I'm not getting any scum vibes from you.

Don't love this on gut. The town read possible pocket attempt at the end particularly but the back and forth at the beginning and multiple meta citations as well.

VOTE: Kazyan

Why the self-vote?

It's an RVS gag? Weird question.

I think it's a stretch to call that a weird question.

Oh....this game is going to be weird from what I've read above.

Will post more later.

This is post 20

VOTE: geraintm

This is a good point. geraintm, can you elaborate on "weird"?

Calling this a good point when there's no context seems "weird" but Gramps is already a top suspect of mine. This can be tabled for later.

I feel potentially conf biased and am going to take a break.

Y'all are both gonna be sad when Gramps isn't here to soak up votes.

Y'all are both gonna be sad when Gramps isn't here to soak up votes.

There is a lot to unpack in this one line. Can you unpack it?

Also, should we consolidate wagons?

Y'all are both gonna be sad when Gramps isn't here to soak up votes.

There is a lot to unpack in this one line. Can you unpack it?

Also, should we consolidate wagons?

Both players posting before me are scum reads but I continue to prefer Gramps because his scummy behavior is more consistent than DGB's and Enchant is just being a low content lurker.

As to your only question the only wagon with two votes besides Gramps happens to be those exact two players. On Andres who is posting mad content.

To actually answer you though obviously yes.

As to your other question*

Also, should we consolidate wagons?

On second thought this is actually a weird question.

Also you're the only player not voting?

As to your only question the only wagon with two votes besides Gramps happens to be those exact two players. On Andres who is posting mad content.

To actually answer you though obviously yes.

Also, should we consolidate wagons?

On second thought this is actually a weird question.

I mean, we have a lot of players who have gone practically silent, so we kinda need a huge majority of active players cooperate to avoid a no-lim today, not just n/2 + 1. VOTE: GrandpaMo. Andre, if you're scum, you're really good at providing scumcases on people.

Kyo, if you're out there, please hammer.

Lemme start that wagon, then. VOTE: Enchant

I understand time is getting short but asking for a hammer without a claim is also a look.

I understand time is getting short but asking for a hammer without a claim is also a look.

And time is not even as short as I thought.

I like that we have things to talk about already besides the IC, though I'm still kinda in the phase where I only know anything about Jolyne's role and my role. So, I'm going to watch and reread for a while in order to differentiate people in my mind.

This feels to me like not purely fluff but a subtle suggestion that you are uninformed town. And other than that it is fluff which makes it stand out.

I could do Kazyan but I'd rather not do a lurker (Enchant) over him or Gramps d1. I'm judging them on content they posted and that's not likely to change going forward but a lurker will either do something later or be a better target if he's still lurking later imo.

Still prefer Gramps over Kaz though actually and if it's a question of moving to the lurker or not I'd say stay on Gramps.

I like that we have things to talk about already besides the IC, though I'm still kinda in the phase where I only know anything about Jolyne's role and my role. So, I'm going to watch and reread for a while in order to differentiate people in my mind.

This feels to me like not purely fluff but a subtle suggestion that you are uninformed town. And other than that it is fluff which makes it stand out.

There is a specific purpose to that post. ♬~

Look for scum or I'll hang you later.

I catched more scums than you already.

I'm still learning all of these Mafia acronyms; what is "NoU" short for?

I could do Kazyan but I'd rather not do a lurker (Enchant) over him or Gramps d1. I'm judging them on content they posted and that's not likely to change going forward but a lurker will either do something later or be a better target if he's still lurking later imo.

If you're judging them on the content they posted, why do you think it's not gonna change going forward? Your recent posts seem to be going through Kazyan's ISO, and judging by 679, you're still only on 92, which feels like a bit of an early call?

@Dwlee, what changed your mind on me? And on Kazyan, why not.

I mean I'm looking at their content now and tomorrow they'll have more of the same. It's helpful but I think the difference between a lurker as a potential wagon is larger between days 1 and 2 if that makes sense.

I think d1 is the easiest time to miselim someone just for lurking.

So how long has this leading wagon on Gramps been an ego push to punish his play over the last twenty four hours.

@Ythan, what prompted you to look at Kazyan's ISO in your 632-634?

You seem like you SR Kazyan consistently in your interactions with him but never push or vote there, only shade. Yet when Kazyan starts to become a wagon you make 1001, but you've said before youd sooner elim Kazyan or Grandpa before Enchant (a lurker). But also you want to elim Grandpa more than Kazyan you say. Kazyan is also softing a PR in 11v2. Surely that's not why you backed off?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Going to work on these players:

Kazyan
Nixie (Titus)
Ythan
DGB
AliceK

Going to continue with this. Titus doesnt seem town yet, tried to get a bit out of her earlier today when GMo was RTing with the fake roleclaim. I dont think I really know how to read her yet though as I've only been town with her once recently. I was scum with her once and scum against her once too, but have only had to read her once recently, and she was a claimed PR that was NKed early, so I didnt have to figure her out in that game either.

Can you actually link me to those games.

I'm on mobile but you can get them from my ego. should be Large 233 (scum-scum), osuka's Mini (scum-town), and my recently ended T3 mini (town-town babysitter). Osuka and T3 are the mods.

[Ythan]

snip

Saving my place

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Large 233 - scum/scum
Mini 2223 - town/town Babysitter
Mini 2218 - scum/town

My role/Titus's role

[Dwlee99]

what puts Enchant outside of scum/townrange

I don't really think anyone is outside of town range rn

[Titus]

what puts Enchant outside of scum/townrange

I don't really think anyone is outside of town range rn

Lol

[Dwlee99]

what puts Enchant outside of scum/townrange

I don't really think anyone is outside of town range rn

Lol

Who is outside of town range?

[Jolyne]

just wagon alicek thx

[Jolyne]

btw i untabled dwlee for a reason - there's a lack of fire in their oosts they have as town normally and I'm not conformable townbinning him anymore

[Kazyan]

VOTE: AliceK

Can we wagon Dwlee instead or is that not gonna be possible with 20 hours left

[Ythan]

I was someone trying to not alt slip but also now I can say that what alignment I say kyouko is is what people are sheeping for the rest of the game no questions asked, I have a recent 100% read rate on kyouko as both alignments and they won't break out of it unless they evolve away from playing with me

lol i think ik who u are

fuck so i was right LOL

Jesus Christ

[Dwlee99]

btw i untabled dwlee for a reason - there's a lack of fire in their oosts they have as town normally and I'm not conformable townbinning him anymore

I wasn't expecting this to be as mountainous as it probably is when I first started posting and I'm not super thrilled about it

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Going to work on these players:

Kazyan
Nixie (Titus)
Ythan
DGB
AliceK

Going to continue with this. Titus doesnt seem town yet, tried to get a bit out of her earlier today when GMo was RTing with the fake roleclaim. I dont think I really know how to read her yet though as I've only been town with her once recently. I was scum with her once and scum against her once too, but have only had to read her once recently, and she was a claimed PR that was NKed early, so I didnt have to figure her out in that game either.

Finished reading these. I take Ythan out of poe toDay and would especially like to revisit if Kazyan flips scum and I'm still alive. Those posts in the early 600s where he randomly starts ISOing Kazyan look unnatural to me. If Kazyan is scum Ythan is a plausible partner.

Prefer to vote any of the other 4, in this order:
Kazyan (scummiest imo)
AliceK/DGB (not towny)
Titus (more proficient as town than AliceK/DGB, but also not towny)

[Ythan]

Spoiler: Ythan-Kazyan raw quotes

I thought it might be a little scummy to ask a probing question over something that clearly doesn't matter, but then I realized that a "peck" at someone hasn't historically come from scum in my games--Lunar Martian in Mini Normal 2187, or T3's initial questions in Not Quite Normal Multiball. And then you gave a reasonable answer, so now I'm not getting any scum vibes from you.

Don't love this on gut. The town read possible pocket attempt at the end particularly but the back and forth at the beginning and multiple meta citations as well.

VOTE: Kazyan

Why the self-vote?

It's an RVS gag? Weird question.

I think it's a stretch to call that a weird question.

Oh....this game is going to be weird from what I've read above.

Will post more later.

This is post 20

VOTE: geraintm

This is a good point. geraintm, can you elaborate on "weird"?

Calling this a good point when there's no context seems "weird" but Gramps is already a top suspect of mine. This can be tabled for later.

I feel potentially conf biased and am going to take a break.

Y'all are both gonna be sad when Gramps isn't here to soak up votes.

Y'all are both gonna be sad when Gramps isn't here to soak up votes.

There is a lot to unpack in this one line. Can you unpack it?

Also, should we consolidate wagons?

Y'all are both gonna be sad when Gramps isn't here to soak up votes.

There is a lot to unpack in this one line. Can you unpack it?

Also, should we consolidate wagons?

Both players posting before me are scum reads but I continue to prefer Gramps because his scummy behavior is more consistent than DGB's and Enchant is just being a low content lurker.

As to your only question the only wagon with two votes besides Gramps happens to be those exact two players. On Andres who is posting mad content.

To actually answer you though obviously yes.

As to your other question*

Also, should we consolidate wagons?

On second thought this is actually a weird question.

Also you're the only player not voting?

As to your only question the only wagon with two votes besides Gramps happens to be those exact two players. On Andres who is posting mad content.

To actually answer you though obviously yes.

Also, should we consolidate wagons?

On second thought this is actually a weird question.

I mean, we have a lot of players who have gone practically silent, so we kinda need a huge majority of active players cooperate to avoid a no-lim today, not just n/2 + 1. VOTE: GrandpaMo. Andre, if you're scum, you're really good at providing scumcases on people.

Kyo, if you're out there, please hammer.

Lemme start that wagon, then. VOTE: Enchant

I understand time is getting short but asking for a hammer without a claim is also a look.

I understand time is getting short but asking for a hammer without a claim is also a look.

And time is not even as short as I thought.

I like that we have things to talk about already besides the IC, though I'm still kinda in the phase where I only know anything about Jolyne's role and my role. So, I'm going to watch and reread for a while in order to differentiate people in my mind.

This feels to me like not purely fluff but a subtle suggestion that you are uninformed town. And other than that it is fluff which makes it stand out.

I could do Kazyan but I'd rather not do a lurker (Enchant) over him or Gramps d1. I'm judging them on content they posted and that's not likely to change going forward but a lurker will either do something later or be a better target if he's still lurking later imo.

Still prefer Gramps over Kaz though actually and if it's a question of moving to the lurker or not I'd say stay on Gramps.

I like that we have things to talk about already besides the IC, though I'm still kinda in the phase where I only know anything about Jolyne's role and my role. So, I'm going to watch and reread for a while in order to differentiate people in my mind.

This feels to me like not purely fluff but a subtle suggestion that you are uninformed town. And other than that it is fluff which makes it stand out.

There is a specific purpose to that post. ♬~

Look for scum or I'll hang you later.

I catched more scums than you already.

I'm still learning all of these Mafia acronyms; what is "NoU" short for?

I could do Kazyan but I'd rather not do a lurker (Enchant) over him or Gramps d1. I'm judging them on content they posted and that's not likely to change going forward but a lurker will either do something later or be a better target if he's still lurking later imo.

If you're judging them on the content they posted, why do you think it's not gonna change going forward? Your recent posts seem to be going through Kazyan's ISO, and judging by 679, you're still only on 92, which feels like a bit of an early call?

@Dwlee, what changed your mind on me? And on Kazyan, why not.

I mean I'm looking at their content now and tomorrow they'll have more of the same. It's helpful but I think the difference between a lurker as a potential wagon is larger between days 1 and 2 if that makes sense.

I think d1 is the easiest time to miselim someone just for lurking.

So how long has this leading wagon on Gramps been an ego push to punish his play over the last twenty four hours.

@Ythan, what prompted you to look at Kazyan's ISO in your 632-634?

You seem like you SR Kazyan consistently in your interactions with him but never push or vote there, only shade. Yet when Kazyan starts to become a wagon you make 1001, but you've said before youd sooner elim Kazyan or Grandpa before Enchant (a lurker). But also you want to elim Grandpa more than Kazyan you say. Kazyan is also softing a PR in 11v2. Surely that's not why you backed off?

I wanted to use some time to look at other slots and Kaz is first on the playerlist. Never got finished with him to move on to someone else. And no I didn't pick up on any softing, probably no point in pointing out where or what it is now either I would think.

[Dwlee99]

Going to work on these players:

Kazyan
Nixie (Titus)
Ythan
DGB
AliceK

Going to continue with this. Titus doesnt seem town yet, tried to get a bit out of her earlier today when GMo was RTing with the fake roleclaim. I dont think I really know how to read her yet though as I've only been town with her once recently. I was scum with her once and scum against her once too, but have only had to read her once recently, and she was a claimed PR that was NKed early, so I didnt have to figure her out in that game either.

Finished reading these. I take Ythan out of poe toDay and would especially like to revisit if Kazyan flips scum and I'm still alive. Those posts in the early 600s where he randomly starts ISOing Kazyan look unnatural to me. If Kazyan is scum Ythan is a plausible partner.

Prefer to vote any of the other 4, in this order:
Kazyan (scummiest imo)
AliceK/DGB (not towny)
Titus (more proficient as town than AliceK/DGB, but also not towny)

Do you think the soft is scummy?

[Ythan]

Okay I think I see it. That doesn't change anything.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Going to work on these players:

Kazyan
Nixie (Titus)
Ythan
DGB
AliceK

Going to continue with this. Titus doesnt seem town yet, tried to get a bit out of her earlier today when GMo was RTing with the fake roleclaim. I dont think I really know how to read her yet though as I've only been town with her once recently. I was scum with her once and scum against her once too, but have only had to read her once recently, and she was a claimed PR that was NKed early, so I didnt have to figure her out in that game either.

Finished reading these. I take Ythan out of poe toDay and would especially like to revisit if Kazyan flips scum and I'm still alive. Those posts in the early 600s where he randomly starts ISOing Kazyan look unnatural to me. If Kazyan is scum Ythan is a plausible partner.

Prefer to vote any of the other 4, in this order:
Kazyan (scummiest imo)
AliceK/DGB (not towny)
Titus (more proficient as town than AliceK/DGB, but also not towny)

Do you think the soft is scummy?

Yes, I don't think we should have any significant roles since we know it's 11:2

[Dwlee99]

Going to work on these players:

Kazyan
Nixie (Titus)
Ythan
DGB
AliceK

Going to continue with this. Titus doesnt seem town yet, tried to get a bit out of her earlier today when GMo was RTing with the fake roleclaim. I dont think I really know how to read her yet though as I've only been town with her once recently. I was scum with her once and scum against her once too, but have only had to read her once recently, and she was a claimed PR that was NKed early, so I didnt have to figure her out in that game either.

Finished reading these. I take Ythan out of poe toDay and would especially like to revisit if Kazyan flips scum and I'm still alive. Those posts in the early 600s where he randomly starts ISOing Kazyan look unnatural to me. If Kazyan is scum Ythan is a plausible partner.

Prefer to vote any of the other 4, in this order:
Kazyan (scummiest imo)
AliceK/DGB (not towny)
Titus (more proficient as town than AliceK/DGB, but also not towny)

Do you think the soft is scummy?

Yes, I don't think we should have any significant roles since we know it's 11:2

Mm that's an alright point. If this is what's happening I'd like Kazyan to claim while we still have time to talk about it

[Dwlee99]

"this" being the wagon on him.

[Ythan]

I just finished reading through his iso but, I need to go take a moment and look at something else. I need to just vote him at this point probably but I'll be up for quite some time and will be sure to do something before I go to bed.

[Ythan]

If we're going to have to actually hunt scum instead of relying on a cop/tracker/whatever to tell us who the bad guys are, I am worried.

Like is this genuine? I'm not in the headspace to judge this right now I just feel confirmation biased looking at the iso.