Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

[Snarky Fishes]

My thoughts on Rhea are that her ability is at least as useful to scum as to town, before mass shard claim. If anyone can use that claim to good effect in terms of "conftowning", it's Rhea's system. And Medea, but we're not playing a game where Medea claimed demon-finder.

:/ My problem with this angle is dunn confirmed that it's "demonphobic" as a modifier. Does scum get that weak of a role?

*gestures at the gamestate*

I dunno. I will note that Rhea's claimed result of Spiffeh-human happened on the same night as Spiffeh being demonized, which goes against my willd-ass paranoia-fueled theory.

At least I'm not building wild-ass paranoia-fueled theories about you, and that kinda makes me question my sanity.

But really, both of your scumgames* warrant it.

*yeah I know, Rhea isn't who I've generally played with.

[Snarky Fishes]

Hi, it's Rhea. No patience for doing my thing today, too much trauma.

I'd like to remind people that I am literally confirmed town, because it explicitly needed to be Dunn+Medea yesterday, and now it explicitly needs to be Dunn+Me today. That means Dunn is impossible to be scum, which means Medea and I are impossible to be scum because of exclusion rule.

Which means questions about my role, questions about my reads and scumreading me is exclusively theatre.

My scum reads are Annie Fishes and Unwnd. ArcAngel looks too town to be scum.

I think it's Annie+Fishes or Annie+Unwnd. I want to kill Annie today.

The fact that you're scumreading someone who plans to jump into the woodchipper today boggles my mind.

Like...you think scum have TWO BPs? What other scum agenda could we be pushing?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like I am literally confirmed town. With a scum dead in Pooky, the only person I could be scum with at this point is Dunn. But yesterday it was assessed and confirmed the only person Dunn could be scum with is Medea.

So it's locked down.

If you wanna try and make an argument that I played this somehow in which I targetted Dunn to get clear, remember that I expected Dunn to have my FULL ROLE ACCESS and not just the word "demonphobic" so any arguments that I'm lying about this are completely impossible UNLESS DUNN IS SCUM.

But given that Fishes has ME but not DUNN on their SCUM LIST.

The only way you can think I am scum is with Dunn. To not do that means you are doing PURE POSTURING.

[Snarky Fishes]

If you're town I expect a fucking apology when the game ends.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hi, it's Rhea. No patience for doing my thing today, too much trauma.

I'd like to remind people that I am literally confirmed town, because it explicitly needed to be Dunn+Medea yesterday, and now it explicitly needs to be Dunn+Me today. That means Dunn is impossible to be scum, which means Medea and I are impossible to be scum because of exclusion rule.

Which means questions about my role, questions about my reads and scumreading me is exclusively theatre.

My scum reads are Annie Fishes and Unwnd. ArcAngel looks too town to be scum.

I think it's Annie+Fishes or Annie+Unwnd. I want to kill Annie today.

The fact that you're scumreading someone who plans to jump into the woodchipper today boggles my mind.

Like...you think scum have TWO BPs? What other scum agenda could we be pushing?

I think you are either hardcore lying about your role, or if not, it still makes perfect sense. Corrupter, BP, Vengeful is a perfectly fine non-proactive scumteam.

But I do recognize you can't be the corrupter, as long as you're willing to die. That said, the fact you're pretending you can't see this as Theatre from you is, once again, pure ridiculousness. That you and Bell both sit here and play the Tammy role, where you bitch and whine and moan about how town you are while not realizing you're in the PoE and within your range to be pretending

It's really frustrating.

And, if we wanna get on Bell's level of insulting our play a little, worse than thinking I can be scum as CONFIRMED TOWN.

Just an FYI if you ARE town. I'M.

CONFIRMED.

TOWN.

So have fun with that.

[Snarky Fishes]

Like I am literally confirmed town. With a scum dead in Pooky, the only person I could be scum with at this point is Dunn. But yesterday it was assessed and confirmed the only person Dunn could be scum with is Medea.

So it's locked down.

If you wanna try and make an argument that I played this somehow in which I targetted Dunn to get clear, remember that I expected Dunn to have my FULL ROLE ACCESS and not just the word "demonphobic" so any arguments that I'm lying about this are completely impossible UNLESS DUNN IS SCUM.

But given that Fishes has ME but not DUNN on their SCUM LIST.

The only way you can think I am scum is with Dunn. To not do that means you are doing PURE POSTURING.

NO. I've said that I think your role could be a SCUM role. Not that you or Dunn either one have lied about your role.

Anyway. Nobody's going to buy you're scum at this point in the game. But, my suspicion is in the game thread and players will know that it was a Townie's suspicion after our flip today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If you're town I expect a fucking apology when the game ends.

How about you and Bell can both eat my ass because you've done nothing but insult me all game and I have no reason to fucking trust you.

You're not getting any fucking apology from me, hydra who is READING A CONFIRMED TOWNIE AS SCUM.

[Snarky Fishes]

If you're town I expect a fucking apology when the game ends.

How about you and Bell can both eat my ass because you've done nothing but insult me all game and I have no reason to fucking trust you.

You're not getting any fucking apology from me, hydra who is READING A CONFIRMED TOWNIE AS SCUM.

Noted.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'd also like to point out that I spent most of this game completely silent, so any assertion that I owe you a fucking apology for MY behaviour over how you and Bell have insulted me and treated me this game is so fucking ludicrous I want to cry.

And our system has done nothing BUT cry for a week now so that's a real fucking effort.

[Snarky Fishes]

I don't believe that I have EVER insulted you in this game. If Bell has, then that's on him to acknowledge.

[Spiffeh]

Rhea do you have any input on the ~proposed plans~ or the theory that AA is the corruptor?

[Snarky Fishes]

I mean, I apologized to you for expressing that I was feeling sorry for Peng. AND FELT BAD ABOUT EXPRESSING that sorrow.

[Here There Be Dragons]

i don't like this game

[Snarky Fishes]

Neither do I.

I want to get a move on, but I also want Bell to get his last words in. :/

[Spiffeh]

i'd lean towards asking unwnd to use both shards on an already demonized player to make sure hes not scum using his factional ability to hide

I like this and want this to happen. Is there any negative in forcing unwnd to shard a demon tonight to confirm his role?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Rhea do you have any input on the ~proposed plans~ or the theory that AA is the corruptor?

I don't really care anymore. I wanted to have fun this game and play as myself, but I've lost both of those. I've got slots insulting my intelligence for the AUDACITY of thinking they are scum while they turn around and scum read me despite the fact I'm confirmed town. Like, I don't know in what world it's okay to insult how I play this game because I think you could have scum equity and range... and then for you to turn around and scum read me despite my confirmed town status and DEMAND AN APOLOGY FOR SCUMREADING THEM.

I am certain it can't be for anything else given I've been silent all game and couldn't have done anything to offend them!

I've got slots who have actively made it harmful for me to play as myself.

I've got no cares left. I think It's Annie.

[Here There Be Dragons]

is there an option where we all just vote to stop playing

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I mean, I apologized to you for expressing that I was feeling sorry for Peng. AND FELT BAD ABOUT EXPRESSING that sorrow.

At this point I'm not even thinking about that.

I'm literally thinking about your Hydra (which may have exclusively been Bell) insulting my play in this game and telling me that scumreading them makes me bad.

And then you doing the exact same thing, and demanding an apology... for what. For WHAT? What in the world did I do to you that deserves an apology besides scumread you? Huh?

Why do I need to apologize? Why am I the one who constantly needs to change for people, to meet people's needs. Why can't my access needs be important for fucking once

I'm not okay. That request was not okay. I've played this whole game silent and I have tried VERY hard to be respectful DESPITE people treating me in bad ways for my access need.

So that broke me, yeah.

[unwnd]

It's epic the whole game pretty much scumreads me lol

[Annie Edison]

I don’t

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why do I need to apologize to you? Why am I always the one who needs to make things right? When I'm the one who feels like I might never play mafia again, written or otherwise?

All this game has proved to me is that I'm not allowed to play mafia. I'm not allowed to, in our system, because there are others who do it better and are different and that's what you want.

I feel totally defeated and you want me to apologize?

[Lukewarm]

is there an option where we all just vote to stop playing

Well, you know, my plan very much involves you voting to stop playing

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This game was supposed to be an effort on my part to see if I could play live mafia with people using gestures and a soundboard. Because all my sisters get to do it, but not me.

But now it seems I was wrong twice over. My hope I could play live mafia was clearly wrong, but more than that, it appears my hope I can play even regular mafia was wrong too. What am I supposed to do? You want me to apologize for scumreading you?

I'm sorry that you+Annie is a world that makes a lot of fucking sense to me. I'm sorry you think I'm too fucking stupid to see otherwise. I'm sorry that you think I'm supposed to be better, or something?

Are you happy, now? Does this please you, seeing my heart laid bare and bleeding like this? Is this what you wanted?

[Snarky Fishes]

I mean, I apologized to you for expressing that I was feeling sorry for Peng. AND FELT BAD ABOUT EXPRESSING that sorrow.

At this point I'm not even thinking about that.

I'm literally thinking about your Hydra (which may have exclusively been Bell) insulting my play in this game and telling me that scumreading them makes me bad.

And then you doing the exact same thing, and demanding an apology... for what. For WHAT? What in the world did I do to you that deserves an apology besides scumread you? Huh?

Why do I need to apologize? Why am I the one who constantly needs to change for people, to meet people's needs. Why can't my access needs be important for fucking once

I'm not okay. That request was not okay. I've played this whole game silent and I have tried VERY hard to be respectful DESPITE people treating me in bad ways for my access need.

So that broke me, yeah.

I have not insulted your play?

You keep saying we both have, but I can't recall a single thing I've posted that is insulting your play.

Unless suspecting you is in and of itself insulting.

If you don't feel apologetic after our flip, that's fine.

I feel bad about elimming town every time unless the player was actively and extremely anti-wincon in their posts and actions. but that's me, not you.

I don't think either of us adding anything useful to the game, so I'm going to stop engaging on this topic unless something that IS useful to the game comes of it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Because you got it! I feel bad! I feel terrible! I'm taking up space, and making a scene! I feel fucking awful and ashamed and guilty for being a burden and a problem. Do you understand how hard that is, for me, as a mute person? That I feel constantly like I need to avoid taking up space and being the problem? For me to come into this game and try to carve out some space for myself?

Do you have any idea how soulcrushing this has been? Not to mention Niamh found some fun repressed memories from her childhood that triggered a full blown C-PTSD attack we've not yet recovered from.

So yeah, demanding an apology probably broke me there. I'm sorry I told you to eat my ass, because that was rude, but honestly it's how I feel. After all this, and everything that happened, people still want more from me?