Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 4.7

[4] Snarky fishes (Dunnstral, Lukewarm, Spiffeh, ArcAngel9)
[2] Annie Edison (Lady Lambdadelta, unwnd)
[2] ArcAngel9 (Here There Be Dragons, ManateeGal)

[3] Not Voting (Medea the Alien, Annie Edison, Snarky fishes)

With 11 alive, it is 6 to eliminate.

Spoiler: Shard Vote

[11] Not Voting (Annie Edison, ArcAngel9, Dunnstral, Here There Be Dragons, Lady Lambdadelta, Lukewarm, ManateeGal, Medea the Alien, unwnd, Snarky fishes, Spiffeh)

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-08-26 23:00:00)

[Snarky Fishes]

You clearly value yourself more than a generic town asset as you're unwilling to be woodchippered to prevent the alt wincon trigger, so start giving fucks and playing the game because with your refusal we're in "have to hit corrupter" mode and you seem to straight up not care.

This.

I'm townreading you guys, but your reactions to the gamestate give me hives.

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@Rhea with AA9 towning it up some in her pre and post "hammer" posts, the gamestate has shifted, which puts Annie in the frame for me.

He won't hammer us, which means focusing on other-scum today, but I won't be gritting my teeth in the dead thread over it if he's run up day 5.

[Lukewarm]

You clearly value yourself more than a generic town asset as you're unwilling to be woodchippered to prevent the alt wincon trigger, so start giving fucks and playing the game because with your refusal we're in "have to hit corrupter" mode and you seem to straight up not care.

This.

I'm townreading you guys, but your reactions to the gamestate give me hives.

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[ArcAngel9]

Unvote

Now i need to think again!

[Medea the Alien]

He won't hammer us, which means focusing on other-scum today, but I won't be gritting my teeth in the dead thread over it if he's run up day 5.

Do you think any actual scum will hammer you? What's your recommendation if none of Annie/unwnd/Lukewarm will hammer you?

--PA

[Here There Be Dragons]

i've spent 0 time thinking about that. clearly dunn and snarky were here, as well as you and spiffeh but those two seem like impossibilities. i don't know what yalls sleep schedules are like though.

Uh, last night we went to bed around 11PM ish central?

Sleep is something to be attempted not something guaranteed for me, though.

you posted shortly after her

But like, please start thinking more?

sorry that checking timestamps against sleep patterns plays no role in how i approach mafia

yes i'm checked out there are a lot of reasons for that

[Here There Be Dragons]

You clearly value yourself more than a generic town asset as you're unwilling to be woodchippered to prevent the alt wincon trigger, so start giving fucks and playing the game because with your refusal we're in "have to hit corrupter" mode and you seem to straight up not care.

a generic town asset? hardly

i just do not accept the idea that we can't hit scum today

[Here There Be Dragons]

I'm townreading you guys, but your reactions to the gamestate give me hives.

im put off by everything about the way this game has gone. im not going to do another emotions post.

[Lukewarm]

I guess it just feels like you should either be hardcore trying to solve OR willing to utilize mechanics to try and save the game.

So the fact that you are both abjectly refusing to go with the plan and you are "checked out" is a bit... :/

(and, btw The Plan involves the fishes also being willing to die to try and pull out the win for the town, and they are on board)

[Snarky Fishes]

He won't hammer us, which means focusing on other-scum today, but I won't be gritting my teeth in the dead thread over it if he's run up day 5.

Do you think any actual scum will hammer you? What's your recommendation if none of Annie/unwnd/Lukewarm will hammer you?

--PA

Run us up anyway. We can hammer ourselves if it comes to that.

[Snarky Fishes]

i.e. getting demonized tonight is not an option.

[Here There Be Dragons]

I guess it just feels like you should either be hardcore trying to solve OR willing to utilize mechanics to try and save the game.

So the fact that you are both abjectly refusing to go with the plan and you are "checked out" is a bit... :/

(and, btw The Plan involves the fishes also being willing to die to try and pull out the win for the town, and they are on board)

i'm not going to make a play that i think sucks just because i'm tilted and having a bad time. playing to win condition is sacred. in sum, deal with it

[Snarky Fishes]

But lukewarm has said he's willing to hammer us, so.

[Lukewarm]

I guess it just feels like you should either be hardcore trying to solve OR willing to utilize mechanics to try and save the game.

So the fact that you are both abjectly refusing to go with the plan and you are "checked out" is a bit... :/

(and, btw The Plan involves the fishes also being willing to die to try and pull out the win for the town, and they are on board)

i'm not going to make a play that i think sucks just because i'm tilted and having a bad time. playing to win condition is sacred. in sum, deal with it

If you look at like, any of the arguments around the plan, I am pretty sure that going through with the plan IS playing to your win condition.

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[Here There Be Dragons]

i understand your opinion and i need you to accept that i do not share that opinion

[Lukewarm]

He won't hammer us, which means focusing on other-scum today, but I won't be gritting my teeth in the dead thread over it if he's run up day 5.

Do you think any actual scum will hammer you? What's your recommendation if none of Annie/unwnd/Lukewarm will hammer you?

--PA

Run us up anyway. We can hammer ourselves if it comes to that.

I believe that unwnd has said they would consider hammering the fishes?

If both of the others refuse, I will do it, but :/

[Lukewarm]

Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.

That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it

[Lukewarm]

Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.

That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it

Like I have outlined repeatedly, if your solve it right, we win either way. EVEN IF MY PLAN FAILS.

But, if your solve is wrong, then voting for someone outright loses on the spot, but my plan gives us a chance to regroup.

Like, if you were to agree to the plan, you would be able to dictate the exact solve that we try to go with, if that is what it would take for you to get on board :/

[Here There Be Dragons]

in my heart of hearts i really think it's just somehow medea and dunnstral so it's hard to get into anything else

please don't reiterate the mechanical reasons this is impossible at me i heard you

[Here There Be Dragons]

Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.

That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it

Like I have outlined repeatedly, if your solve it right, we win either way. EVEN IF MY PLAN FAILS.

But, if your solve is wrong, then voting for someone outright loses on the spot, but my plan gives us a chance to regroup.

Like, if you were to agree to the plan, you would be able to dictate the exact solve that we try to go with, if that is what it would take for you to get on board :/

i am fine with snarky and scum dying, but i'm not scum and scum won't hammer them, so like who cares

[Lukewarm]

in my heart of hearts i really think it's just somehow medea and dunnstral so it's hard to get into anything else

please don't reiterate the mechanical reasons this is impossible at me i heard you

Hell, we could go with my plan, and if it works we kill medea tomorrow just to be sure.

It buys us the miselims to check for something like that x.x

[Lukewarm]

Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.

That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it

Like I have outlined repeatedly, if your solve it right, we win either way. EVEN IF MY PLAN FAILS.

But, if your solve is wrong, then voting for someone outright loses on the spot, but my plan gives us a chance to regroup.

Like, if you were to agree to the plan, you would be able to dictate the exact solve that we try to go with, if that is what it would take for you to get on board :/

i am fine with snarky and scum dying, but i'm not scum and scum won't hammer them, so like who cares

This response did not engage with the point. Like at all.

[Spiffeh]

If unwnd does not hammer Snarky I will be limming him outright.

[unwnd]

So do you want to feel personally responsible or collectively for mislimming me then? (:

[Here There Be Dragons]

Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.

That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it

Like I have outlined repeatedly, if your solve it right, we win either way. EVEN IF MY PLAN FAILS.

But, if your solve is wrong, then voting for someone outright loses on the spot, but my plan gives us a chance to regroup.

Like, if you were to agree to the plan, you would be able to dictate the exact solve that we try to go with, if that is what it would take for you to get on board :/

i am fine with snarky and scum dying, but i'm not scum and scum won't hammer them, so like who cares

This response did not engage with the point. Like at all.

the idea that anyone will listen to a dead player is just comedy